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VideoGames posted:Lady VG pointed out something about last nights question time. https://twitter.com/SocialistChris/status/1196908309988679681
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BalloonFish posted:Remember when the election first seemed imminent and people (me included) were all "In 2017 the Tories ran a comically abysmal campaign where they ran away from the electorate and refused to publicise any of their policies. They won't make that mistake again Everyone seems to consistently overestimate the Tories and underestimate Labour. Don't feel bad if you have done this, just realise that it means that the propaganda has been working on you. Don't let it 
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Pilchenstein posted:It has been genuinely loving gratifying to watch and honestly, we should thank the true heroes of the ongoing tory clusterfuck - all the dipshits in the press who wrote glowing pieces bigging up Dom Cummies Esquire as a tactical supergenius who could not be defeated because of all the Sun Tzu he'd read. The punchline wouldn't have been half as funny without that setup They call me Cum Tzu  Well, I'm trying to get them to call me that.
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The guy ranting about Ruth Smeeth was the weirdest. "Watch the video Jeremy!" "... I was there." "Yeah but watch the video Jeremy!"
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:The guy ranting about Ruth Smeeth was the weirdest. A melt for sure, but he did fear Corbyn for whatever reason. Along the lines of Jewish people who've worked themselves up about a labour government
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Nov 23, 2019 09:31
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Ms Adequate posted:If you don't have a four-bedroom house so you can knock down a wall and convert two bedrooms into a single giant space for Advanced Squad Leader then you are either casual at wargaming, or your situation is a stain on one of the world's richest countries, which should never see people unable to play ASL properly. I made Mark Nixon roll his own morale check at ASL Oktoberfest once. He failed, the swine.
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Unkempt posted:If you can stand to pay money then PureVPN is how I watch all my When I had linux you used to be able to just download stuff from the bbc server. very much enjoyed last nights debate even though I have a stomach bug and had to be sick just after Jo Swinson's bit. I think Corbyn did well but didn't totally smash it, I understand his reasoning around Scottish independence but, as usual, direct answers work better than political patter. I'm for devolution for every country in the UK as well as more devolved powers to the regions, don't know why he didn't touch on that more as its in the manifesto. Next debate is Thursday with Sky, three way hell in a cell match starring Comrade Corbs, B.J Pfeffel & Jo Slingshot Swinson. This is followed by a Royal Investigation Rumble on Friday, where every party leader will slug it out for the title of Super Prime, only on BBC 1. Everyone get your advent calendars out, only 19 days til the election 
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stuff. It has a dedicated iplayer setting that works 90% of the time and if it doesn't then it will if you wait 10 mins and try again.
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(Outside of any fairness rules) There's been a shift in how the media operate since the election was called, right? Various interviews less defferential/chummy with the tories... that sort of thing. Apologies if what I'm realising here is some basic Chomsky but could this be because the access to 'the story' has changed. With the tory gov the media have to play ball, because the story is locked away & released under supervision of Dom Cummings. Theres a threat that access to future stories may be withdrawn at any point. In election season, there's no threat of access to hold over the media because campaigning via the media is the story. The media don't have to defer, because they're the more powerful agent in this interaction. The tories are blundering because they've not realised / not prepared for this.
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Nov 23, 2019 09:54
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Nothingtoseehere posted:A melt for sure, but he did fear Corbyn for whatever reason. Along the lines of Jewish people who've worked themselves up about a labour government https://twitter.com/VoteLabour118/status/1198041576871776257?s=20 here's the video in question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQr1wCnqx_c not really incriminating as far as I can tell, looks like he could be talking to the bloke behind him re. the text with that glance back (or the text is disciplinary and the guy behind knows this?), and is being polite to the heckler? hard to tell. also the heckler, Wadsworth, was investigated and expelled CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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Trickjaw posted:I'm having a bit of a meltdown so sorry if I dont answer Take care of yourself bud. Take a step back from things if you need to. That goes for everyone. Look after your health, both mental and physical. We want you to be okay. 
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justcola posted:When I had linux you used to be able to just download stuff from the bbc server. Isn't there also a 7 way debate on climate change this Sunday (although Boris isn't turning up). Edit: That video just looks like Corbyn naturally smiled at someone he's known for years, the bit about sending him a text is a bit awkward although that text could have been 'need to see you in my office about your behavior tomorrow'. He then ignores him when he tries to engage directly about Smeeth. deletebeepbeepbeep fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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I just can’t get over how the audience was totally turned off by the Lib Dems’ stance on unilateral revocation. Really starting to feel optimistic about this.Pesky Splinter posted:Wonder if the libdems should have learnt from the Tory campaign in 2017; don't make the focus and primary figure of your campaign someone with an abominable voting record, who doesn't know how to read a room, or talk to the average person. 
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TACD posted:I just can’t get over how the audience was totally turned off by the Lib Dems’ stance on unilateral revocation. Really starting to feel optimistic about this. It's really only for FBPE types who think that the referendum was stolen by Russians and why can't it be 2012 again, even strongly pro-EU people seem to broadly recognise that annulling a referendum is a bit poo poo (even if they think that the referendum had a lot of issues in the first place)
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Manifesto item (not): I was just reading comments under a finance article in the Mail (I know, wall etc) where someone claimed that Labour will remove the 25% discount on council tax for single occupancy. I have searched the manifesto and cannot find this anywhere. If anyone else would like to double check I'd be grateful! After googling, I found it appears in a Daily Express article where the tories had gone through Monbiot's land report he did for Labour and apparently it's in that (haven't checked). Just something that might need nixing if it comes up in conversations! Disclosure: My spd is worth about £40pm and my income is now about £700pm (but no rent to pay).
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:Isn't there also a 7 way debate on climate change this Sunday (although Boris isn't turning up).
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Manifesto item (not): We talked about this in the discord last night as my dad has picked up the same idea from somewhere. It's bullshit. Totally made up.
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Ms Adequate posted:I see the appeal of the theory though I don't credit it myself, but at any rate they're going to get a quare gunk if that is the plan, because if Jezza gets in there's a decent shout we'll call the whole sodding thing off, it'll be handled about as sensibly as possible if we do do it, and he'll have four and a half years after that to continue to implement a raft of hugely popular policies. Yep. The Tories are not trying to lose. It is not something they are capable of conceiving of, and certainly not something they're capable of successfully organising. All the smart Tories have jumped ship because they know it's unsalvageable. The remaining ones are just power hungry idiots trying to grift as much as possible for themselves. They are desperate, and they are panicking. It's why they keep loving things up even harder. Any brain genius Tory who claims they are Machiavelli is either trying to cover for their gently caress-ups, or they actually believe it and are only going to make the Tories lose a little harder 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Manifesto item (not): I found a BBC article from 2011 that mentioned Monbiot has suggested something similar before, for single occupants in large houses. Could still be a problem for the elderly perhaps but the idea isn't being fairly represented (surprise surprise).
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mrpwase posted:I found a BBC article from 2011 that mentioned Monbiot has suggested something similar before, for single occupants in large houses. Could still be a problem for the elderly perhaps but the idea isn't being fairly represented (surprise surprise). So sort of like bedroom tax. But in any case absolutely NOT in the Labour manifesto!
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mrpwase posted:I found a BBC article from 2011 that mentioned Monbiot has suggested something similar before, for single occupants in large houses. Could still be a problem for the elderly perhaps but the idea isn't being fairly represented (surprise surprise). if you dig carefully you'll find a great deal of pre-bedroom-tax-fiasco muttering about it, because Shelter England was a major proponent of pushing for housing ladder movement ('reducing under-occupation') via adjusting tax/subsidies on the edges - e.g. many small columns like https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/28/should-older-people-downsize-housing-crisis-homes, ft not-notably-neoliberal Dawn Foster arguing for financial incentives to encourage rightsizing as the Tories found out, this a v hard sell politically, flipping "incentives to downsize" to "abolishing the spare room subsidy" is a dangerous game, and the NGOs don't feel particularly obliged to stay and defend such policies, even if most of the intelligentsia class who specialize in housing quietly agree on the principle that some amount of 'rightsizing' is necessary post-bedroom-tax advocacy tends to be much more carefully phrased... ronya fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/corbyn-johnson-question-time-leaders-17303868 "How you rated party leaders on BBC Question Time leaders debate" Some morale boosting stuff from Wales! Corbyn comes out well. No indication given of how many took part in this poll. Yes I know, polls etc, but good for morale.
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At the risk of being overly simplistic maybe the solution is to build more houses? Oh, look, the Labour manifesto, let's have a quick check... Well I never.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Conspiracy theory is that the Tories tried to lose in 2017 to make all the Brexit fallout Labour’s fault for a generation, failed, and are trying again now. And that isn't blood, it's victory wine
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TACD posted:Do they have anybody without an abominable voting record? Yes, me. I have purged my voting record from my memory. It's Chuka's time to shine!
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Braggart posted:They call me Cum Tzu 
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mrpwase posted:At the risk of being overly simplistic maybe the solution is to build more houses? the problem there is location and kind of housing...
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ronya posted:the problem there is location and kind of housing... Then boy is the Labour manifesto for you! It has sections on decentralising the UK by investing in regions other than London, encouraging growth of communities and industries which should see more people opting to live outside Megacity L. This should help lots of people to live happier lives while helping to break the power of the rentier class who suck up all the profits right now and reducing London house prices to slightly more sane levels!
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ronya posted:the problem there is location and kind of housing... Well obviously we want it in the best location, and the good kind of housing I might be being facetious  ^^^^ or something like this
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Braggart posted:Then boy is the Labour manifesto for you! It has sections on decentralising the UK by investing in regions other than London, encouraging growth of communities and industries which should see more people opting to live outside Megacity L. This should help lots of people to live happier lives while helping to break the power of the rentier class who suck up all the profits right now and reducing London house prices to slightly more sane levels! This is unlikely to impress forums user ronya
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Barry Foster posted:This is unlikely to impress forums user ronya Is it because he was too concise
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100,000 new homes a year is ambitious, but environmentally we need to look at Singapore-style large social accommodation blocks built to an immaculate standard, each with community features gym, shops, etc). I'm not sure what Labour is planning, but it would be so good to break this British hatred of vertical housing.
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Ms Adequate posted:Short version is I've never met a nice South African I've met plenty of nice South Africans. Now, and this is the trick, none of them were white.
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A Sometimes Food posted:I've met plenty of nice South Africans. Hang on a minute A Sometimes Food posted:Now, and this is the trick, none of them were white. Carry on
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Ratjaculation posted:100,000 new homes a year is ambitious, but environmentally we need to look at Singapore-style large social accommodation blocks built to an immaculate standard, each with community features gym, shops, etc). We can't build houses because we need to preserve the countryside, but I should have a house in the countryside.
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Barry Foster posted:This is unlikely to impress forums user ronya There is always some problem that us idealists haven't thought of except that we have
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4rgyZzseY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Mayhew "was a British politician who was a Labour Member of Parliament (MP) from 1945 to 1950 and from 1951 to 1974, when he left the Labour Party to join the Liberals. In 1981 Mayhew received a life peerage and was raised to the House of Lords as Baron Mayhew."
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Ratjaculation posted:100,000 new homes a year is ambitious, but environmentally we need to look at Singapore-style large social accommodation blocks built to an immaculate standard, each with community features gym, shops, etc). fun fact: we're already basically there in terms of average house size, we just need to stack 'em up 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/corbyn-johnson-question-time-leaders-17303868 I'm the absolute monstering the Welsh public gave Jo Swinson. Only 2% thought she won the debate 
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