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Random: 1) Maybe part of the reason Citcon 2018 was so extravagant was to assure the Calders their recent investment was a safe bet. The Summer of 2018 - right after the deal was sealed - was a pretty terrible time for the brand. The PC Gaming Show amongst other things. They took a lot of hits all the way through paywallgate, at which point Chris seemed to get a little more careful. 2) Remember a few years back when the thread largely agreed that Sandi would be the canary in the coal mine? That she’d stick around as long as the getting was good and bug out only if it started looking risky (to her) to stay? 3) Bootcha’s last SGC alerted backers to the worrying possibility that Chris and Sandi both were distancing themselves from the project. Sandi’s absence today, while lamented by no one, probably has some whales a little nervous. Maybe Chris, too. She’s always been a great heat sink when backers get mad or disappointed by marketing events. 4) 2019 has been a fantastically dismal year, but they’ve had bad years before. What’s different about this year is that CitizenCon always helped refuel backer hype drives. Maybe it did again (I haven’t looked at Reddit since it ended) but it sure felt like a pretty lukewarm event to me. The eventual addition of Pyro notwithstanding, Star Citizen really feels like its contracting, receding. It felt that way to goons starting a few years ago, and to Joe Q. Gamer by 2017, but I mean I bet it feels that way to a lot of Believers now, too. 5) I’m very surprised they didn’t even offer a Squadron teaser. That plus the Roadmap drift sends a pretty grim signal. 6) Again, Chris’s show wrap-up felt... I dunno... Wistful, maybe? He tends to be slaphappy and dole out his thanks glibly to employees and fans. Maybe I’m seeing things that aren’t there but he seemed more sincere than his usual self. Remember how the 2017 Holiday Livestream has its own weird and very introductory vibe, like it was targeted not at backers or even general gamers but at something more institutional? And then the Calders invested? The wrap-up felt weird in very different and more intimate way. I don’t want to go too far out on a limb but I wonder if there’s some big changes baked in the cake that backers can’t know until the selling season is done?
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starkebn posted:Has the battlefield clone been on any of their timelines put out in the last 9 months? Nope, the first we heard of it was goons theorycrafting it after TheAgent mentioned new game modes
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Bagman and Bearman are the heroes we deserve for putting up with this tripe. I'd never seen any CitizenCons before; i hope the previous ones were not this shockingly bad. Occasional nice VFX could not make up for the constant blunders. You mean bad? Or bad that provided more laughs?
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Games > Star Citizen: Crouching Bagman, Hidden CrobearColostomy Bag posted:You mean bad? Or bad that provided more laughs? Awful, terrible, no good. Although I hope the previous ones were funnier too.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Games > Star Citizen: Crouching Bagman, Hidden Crobear Oh they were much funnier. This one was mostly a boring morass. The mosaic and a cosplay segment bailed it out.
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bbchops posted:Oh dear 
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G0RF posted:Random: It sounded as an apology for the bad news that is coming, maybe even already about to break. The news being the end of SC/CIG. One of my employers went bankrupt and I've seen this before. The knowing that you're about to let everyone down. Your staff, your customers, your investors/financers, the lot. So thanking them for all the support over the years, being nice and kind etc. It's over. The BDSSE will never see the light. The dream is gone. And Chris knows it. Once he starts announcing that there will be drastic cutbacks and layoffs, backers will realise the money is gone and he's doing this to keep afloat according to his Kickstarter promise and thus can't be sued (yet). That'll be the end of sales. Which will be the end of it all. At the least, he knows this was the last Citizen Con. There won't be a 2020 edition.
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Nov 24, 2019 01:35
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holy poo poo the bear made it into the loving mosaic
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TheAgent posted:citcon 2014 first day: $1,234,997 Yeah what’s with the lack of ship bling? What even happened to the Mole? Kind of weird. (Are they actually prioritising SQ42 over a second advert?)
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You know, Crobbers kinda looks like Winnie the Pooh
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mjotto posted:It sounded as an apology for the bad news that is coming, maybe even already about to break. The news being the end of SC/CIG. One of my employers went bankrupt and I've seen this before. The knowing that you're about to let everyone down. Your staff, your customers, your investors/financers, the lot. So thanking them for all the support over the years, being nice and kind etc. I got the same vibe from it.
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bbchops posted:Oh dear yikes things not going well
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Koil posted:I believe it is. The image is from CIG twitter account: https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1198365795643985921 Ha ha ha...It’s all been worth it for this. And if any CIG employees read this, of course that’s a photoshop *cough* just leave it up.
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mjotto posted:It sounded as an apology for the bad news that is coming, maybe even already about to break. The news being the end of SC/CIG. One of my employers went bankrupt and I've seen this before. The knowing that you're about to let everyone down. Your staff, your customers, your investors/financers, the lot. So thanking them for all the support over the years, being nice and kind etc. I'm sure he compensated himself and his inner circle quite well for their hard work though, right? Anyone know how much he's banked from this dumpster fire?
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torturemyballs posted:I'm sure he compensated himself and his inner circle quite well for their hard work though, right? Anyone know how much he's banked from this dumpster fire? Pretty sure Chris, Sandi, and Eric are all millionaires by now.
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Wait, did they not even sell the new ship? Did they accidentally only book the venue for the first day of a planned two day event?
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bbchops posted:Wait, did they not even sell the new ship? Did they accidentally only book the venue for the first day of a planned two day event? Doesn't matter - they had enough made up bullshit and meaningless nerd padding to keep that sweet whale blubber plentiful
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Nov 24, 2019 01:59
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mjotto posted:At the least, he knows this was the last Citizen Con. There won't be a 2020 edition. I didn’t want to come out and say it but this was the first CitizenCon where it kinda felt that way. Or at the very least, like Chris’s last one in the driver’s seat. No Sandi. No Squadron. Was there even the obligatory birthday cake and song?
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Oh good, a brief 11 minute recap of the annual developments for one of the most uninspired and boring digital terrenes to have been aborted from an aging fragmented min... zzz ...No I do not want buy the timeshares in the mountainside port Chris... zzz
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Mr.PayDay posted:Did they just exclude SQ42 as a topic in their convention because why not ?! They can't say anything at all about SQ42 even though it's due to enter beta next year, because it would be a spoiler. Specifically, this spoiler: SQ42 will not enter beta next year.
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G0RF posted:(I haven’t looked at Reddit since it ended) They are basically taking turns to suck Tony Z's dick. They cannot help but to be attracted to dreams.
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trucutru posted:They are basically taking turns to suck Tony Z's dick. Who can blame them? The economy and agent sim in Cities Skylines is a reasonably important part of what makes that game great, and he made a mini-version of a small segment of that sim. This make it by far the most complex and coherent thing to ever come out of the CIG offices, so of course they're elated that one of “their guys” finally managed to pull off such a spectacular feat.
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I have my story. Now I just need to figure out how to tell it.
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 It's the slow build up of condensation on the inside. Bagman is the hero of the entire event. Poor bugger was slowly suffocating during the whole thing.
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G0RF posted:I didn’t want to come out and say it but this was the first CitizenCon where it kinda felt that way. Or at the very least, like Chris’s last one in the driver’s seat. At the very end, just before they showed the last of the gameplay, Chris said and I quote: "and um, well this is, the end" and the way he said it was very odd, there was a finality to the intonation, like he meant overall rather than just the event. It was very weird.
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Sabreseven posted:
Imagine seeing this picture without context, and trying to reverse engineer what is going on.
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Sabreseven posted:
Hypoxia often causes giddiness (and mild hallucinations!), so he was probably having the most fun of anybody at CitCon.
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Beet Wagon posted:Nope, the first we heard of it was goons theorycrafting it after TheAgent mentioned new game modes Open development by Chris Roberts
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We need to find a way to make exasperated_chris_sigh.mp3 play when you open the thread.
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I can tell SC is dying, we generated way fewer pages than any other CitizenCon
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Chris was just being wistful because 2020 will be the year of SquadCon instead.
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monkeytek posted:I can tell SC is dying, we generated way fewer pages than any other CitizenCon Nobody gives a poo poo any more. Not even the citizens. The citizencon thread on their subreddit generated less than 300 posts, and any time I looked at the official stream only like 28k people were watching. Granted that wasn't during the keynote, but overall this Citizencon hasn't generated nearly as much interest as the last. People just don't care any more.
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