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Christ, if there is actually anything resembling a real process in the Senate... Are we SURE they won't be able to change the rules? Because gently caress man, if I bet if you start pulling on this thread half the GOP would unravel. They're gonna be pants making GBS threads terrified of actual supeona power in anything resembling a real trial. poo poo looked grim from before, but that was just electoral risk, not criminal!
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Party Plane Jones posted:Quote this post if you want the ‘I want nothing’ Gang Tag whenever it gets uploaded. Catching up on poo poo, am I too late for this? EDIT: ok yes clearly I am. carry on everyone GeminiSun fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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GeminiSun posted:Catching up on poo poo, am I too late for this? Too late. Closed the same night at midnight.
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GeminiSun posted:Catching up on poo poo, am I too late for this? Xaiter posted:Too late. Closed the same night at midnight.
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I love how literally every picture from the last 48 hours of nunes has him looking like he saw, idk not even a ghost does it justice, like he's been followed by shadow people or something? Never seen someone look so completely shook before.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Quote this post if you want the ‘I want nothing’ Gang Tag whenever it gets uploaded.
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I would love to see Nunes punished for his skeevyness the past few years, but can anyone explain what actual legal jeopardy he is in though?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I love how literally every picture from the last 48 hours of nunes has him looking like he saw, idk not even a ghost does it justice, like he's been followed by shadow people or something? Never seen someone look so completely shook before. The furies follow the guilty, maybe it’s their doing. That or some Jacob Marley type ghost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsiKOJOXMJU&t now i am just picturing Statler & Waldorf just following him around as ghosts constantly dropping burns on him. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/funder/status/1198106275231490048 https://twitter.com/funder/status/1198116647082582016
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Deteriorata posted:https://twitter.com/funder/status/1198106275231490048  Man, you really love to see it.
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I wanna see Devin testify, but Devin also is asking the questions, so he has to run back and forth from the committee seat down to the table, getting sweaty and out of breath as he interrogates himself.
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this poo poo is meaningless, "the Democratic Coalition" is just his #resistance super PAC, he's a grifter that lies constantly about everything to try to get money
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Also any attempt to censure or remove Nunes would be counterproductive at this juncture. Let him sit up there as Parnas testifies. That's a dream scenario for the dems
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eke out posted:this poo poo is meaningless, "the Democratic Coalition" is just his #resistance super PAC, he's a grifter that lies constantly about everything to try to get money 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/weareoversight/status/1198082758926651392 Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/weareoversight/status/1198082758926651392 I dunno if anyone else read through these but it’s a lot of repetition of copies of letters and letterhead and photocopied John Solomon Hill articles about the whole debunked Biden Burisma 2016 election conspiracy. Some log entries of calls between Pompeo and Giuliani and lots of evidence Parnas was involved as a translator when they were desperate after the 2018 elections went so poorly for them so they were interviewing the corrupt prosecutor from Ukraine who was telling them all the poo poo Giuliani and Trump have been repeating that John Solomon reported while working for the Hill. Also like six copies of the letter of support for Yovanovitch signed by her various supporters. Nunes is also in a few call logs with Pompeo at various times.
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Xaiter posted:Christ, if there is actually anything resembling a real process in the Senate... The reason the rules can never change is that a vote to change the rules is tantamount a vote for impeachment, or will be viewed that way. Plus Democrats would be dumb to do it, because the Republicans are 100% craven enough to hide their votes and then save their president in darkness.
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Blind voting by the Senate is undemocratic. We deserve to know what their vote was so we can decide whether to continue supporting them or vote for someone else. If this is even considered there should be mass protests.
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Deteriorata posted:https://twitter.com/funder/status/1198106275231490048  Nice https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1197607345414660098 ascii genitals fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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I did a (extremely) cursory look at the Democratic Coalition's site, and superPAC or not, they're apparently getting an impeachment ad to air on Fox News on Monday, during Fox & Friends. They want Trump to see it, and you know what? After all the GOP PAC ads currently invading YouTube, I KINDA WANT HIM TO SEE IT TOO.
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Deteriorata posted:https://twitter.com/funder/status/1198106275231490048 I can't wait for Ranking Member Nunes' time to ask question of hostile witness, Devin Nunes.
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Slowpoke! posted:Blind voting by the Senate is undemocratic. We deserve to know what their vote was so we can decide whether to continue supporting them or vote for someone else. If this is even considered there should be mass protests. It's also pointless because if the vote is split, the individual Trumpers will loudly announce they voted against removal. I think that the vote is either going to be along party lines or something like 90-10
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ALso: The whole "two-thirds of the Senate" thing with impeachment probably made a lot more sense when there was less than thirty senators thank u for coming to my ted talk
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Literally Kermit posted:ALso: The whole "two-thirds of the Senate" thing with impeachment probably made a lot more sense when there was less than thirty senators The whole point is that you need cross party support, which is NORMALLY a good thing, because otherwise Mitch would have removed Obama in 2014 just because he could. But it's not great when a major political party is compromised along with the President.
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theflyingorc posted:The whole point is that you need cross party support, which is NORMALLY a good thing, because otherwise Mitch would have removed Obama in 2014 just because he could. True, but it's a lot harder to convince 17 (of today's) senators to cross party lines, then to get 5 people to do it (napkin math, but the number you'd need back when there were 13 states).
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Literally Kermit posted:I did a (extremely) cursory look at the Democratic Coalition's site, and superPAC or not, they're apparently getting an impeachment ad to air on Fox News on Monday, during Fox & Friends. They want Trump to see it, and you know what? After all the GOP PAC ads currently invading YouTube, I KINDA WANT HIM TO SEE IT TOO. There's a Republicans for the rule of law ad hammering him going up on Fox as well, that one will have him breathing fire about never trumpers
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Literally Kermit posted:True, but it's a lot harder to convince 17 (of today's) senators to cross party lines, then to get 5 people to do it (napkin math, but the number you'd need back when there were 13 states). At this rate none of them will cross party lines, and Manchin and Sinema will vote to acquit. Honestly maybe it'd be better to just censure him at this point, you might get GOP support for that. Though I am completely unable to understand how this is the case in light of the hearings, polling for impeachment is falling, especially in swing states. The GOP is gonna turn the senate trial into a shitshow where they parrot Russian propaganda and drag it out as much as possible. I desperately wish that there was something the Democrats could do to change people's minds, but half the country is plugged into a media ecosystem that completely insulates them from any facts that support Trump's guilt. Maybe there would be some hope if they played hardball for documents/subpoenas. Start fining Pompeo and Mulvaney a million dollars a day until they comply. Refuse to appropriate any money for the state dept or DOD. Arrest them if the fines don't work. But for some reason Pelosi is completely and utterly unwilling to do that, which sucks because there has to be a paper trail that directly implicates Trump. I'm sure we'll see it in a decade after a mountain of FOIA requests for all the good it does then. I know Nancy Pelosi is supposed to be some legislative genius but I cannot see the benefit of trying to rush this and not even trying to force compliance with subpoenas. This poo poo is really loving serious and it's incredibly important to gather the strongest evidence possible, even if it fucks with the primary calendar a little bit.
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Gnumonic posted:This poo poo is really loving serious and it's incredibly important to gather the strongest evidence possible, even if it fucks with the primary calendar a little bit. The President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, has, on several occasions now, straight up admitted to high crimes and misdemeanors. The problem is not enough of the representative government will admit those high crimes and misdemeanors are, in fact, high crimes and misdemeanors. I agree though, it's important to keep pressing the attack. It's not just fighting an opposition party, we're also fighting apathy and misinformation.
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Literally Kermit posted:The President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, has, on several occasions now, straight up admitted to high crimes and misdemeanors. The problem is not enough of the representative government will admit those high crimes and misdemeanors are, in fact, high crimes and misdemeanors. I think the strategy is that if the Republicans are determined to acquit him, it doesn't matter how much evidence they gather so it's not worth spending extra time on it. They have enough to convince anybody that can be convinced of his guilt. Getting it over with fairly quickly then makes it a campaign issue and every Democrat at every level will be running on it.
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Deteriorata posted:I think the strategy is that if the Republicans are determined to acquit him, it doesn't matter how much evidence they gather so it's not worth spending extra time on it. They have enough to convince anybody that can be convinced of his guilt. its like i feel like the GOP is hosed either way. eithr they throw trump under the bus for the country and some lose the primaries or they gently caress everyone over and transparently let him walk and aquite, than they get crushed in 2020.
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eke out posted:wapo matches the CNN story Throw in a Nunes impeachment 
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yronic heroism posted:Throw in a Nunes impeachment As much as I think everyone would want him gone, Nunes isn't going anywhere. See only Democrats have shame, ethics and morals. A perfect example is Katie Hill was effectively revenge porn/slut shamed out of her seat and Steve King is still a member on Congress. Honestly why every Democratic member of the House doesn't beat them over the head with that on a daily basis is beyond me.
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yronic heroism posted:Throw in a Nunes impeachment impeachment does not apply to members of congress, it's a thing members of congress do to other branches. eke out fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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Djarum posted:As much as I think everyone would want him gone, Nunes isn't going anywhere. See only Democrats have shame, ethics and morals. A perfect example is Katie Hill was effectively revenge porn/slut shamed out of her seat and Steve King is still a member on Congress. Steve king was stripped of all of his committee positions and is going to get routed next year as a result. Obviously Nunes would never resign because he's a gutless worm but I'd be satisfied if Trump's right hand man was no longer on the committee investigating Trump. Although King was on committees relevant to his constituency. Nunes is only on intelligence for some reason.
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Djarum posted:As much as I think everyone would want him gone, Nunes isn't going anywhere. See only Democrats have shame, ethics and morals. A perfect example is Katie Hill was effectively revenge porn/slut shamed out of her seat and Steve King is still a member on Congress. Katie Hill is a piece of poo poo who was using her position to exploit people. The revenge porn is loving gross as a concept but her lovely behavior is the root cause.
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Djarum posted:As much as I think everyone would want him gone, Nunes isn't going anywhere. See only Democrats have shame, ethics and morals. A perfect example is Katie Hill was effectively revenge porn/slut shamed out of her seat and Steve King is still a member on Congress. Hill lost her seat because she pulled a Bill Clinton, etc. by abusing her authority by having sex with an underling; she just attempted to shift the narrative in what was essentially her resignation speech and a lot of people fall for the spin or just didn't care about what she did because they still don't see a problem with it. As mentioned, King was basically rendered completely ineffective. Your point is correct, but those are bad examples.
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