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this is the only mention of the word 'fire' in the conservative manifesto  e: mea culpa - Grenfell is also there  (but my original point was that with all the bungs going to police and NHS staff fire services are not mentioned at all) Doccykins fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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RockyB posted:Oh poo poo oh poo poo oh poo poo labour is going to nationalise us. Quick, let's set up an overseas holding company! That's sure to protect our physical assets that we can't loving move out of the UK. Ah yes, it's because of Corbyn we've decided to move to lower tax nations. Bad Corbyn, forcing us to do this thing we definitely wouldn't have done anyway. The idea that you can "redomicile" the entirety of the nation's energy infrastructure is a pretty good illustration of the absurdity of modern capitalism and how badly these companies need to be brought in line.
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RockyB posted:Oh poo poo oh poo poo oh poo poo labour is going to nationalise us. Quick, let's set up an overseas holding company! That's sure to protect our physical assets that we can't loving move out of the UK. drat I love this. I can't wait for the government to nationalize the hell out of this stuff. I am a pretty firm capitalist for the most part, but unless you can have three competing firms in every area the state should absolutely be totally in control. If I can't make a decision about where my electricity or water comes from, market forces don't apply.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I am a pretty firm capitalist for the most part Go on... e: To make this sound less antagonistic, to take your example of when capitalism works (at least three competitors), I've a plethora of broadband providers to choose from and they're all poo poo and cost more than they should for unmetered access. I have several opticians to choose from yet it's still a small loving fortune for me to see properly.
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Um, I have a running satirical persona in this thread as "The Liberal Democratic parachute candidate for wherever this is," who is stuck in a tree and afraid of squirrels. What do I do now? 
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Bundy posted:Go on... I agree that the internet is as important to society as water and electricity and should also be nationalized.
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Doccykins posted:this is the only mention of the word 'fire' in the conservative manifesto The perils of inbreeding, look at the state of it. Parents were probably brother and sister, or uncle and niece. Also as well as the tory manifesto there is a picture of a Dalmatian.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I agree that the internet is as important to society as water and electricity and should also be nationalized. I'd appreciate you elaborating more on your stance, peering in and saying "capitalism is usually good, actually" in a thread full of posters whose lives have been ruined by such means of wealth distribution is rather tone deaf.
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Darth Walrus posted:That helpful?  This is an amazingly high quality post
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Bundy posted:I'd appreciate you elaborating more on your stance, peering in and saying "capitalism is usually good, actually" in a thread full of posters whose lives have been ruined by such means of wealth distribution is rather tone deaf. coffeetable fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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Bundy posted:I'd appreciate you elaborating more on your stance, peering in and saying "capitalism is usually good, actually" in a thread full of posters whose lives have been ruined by such means of wealth distribution is rather tone deaf. Oh fair, I totally understand that this is a bad look. I am not some inhuman libertarian come to maximize all profit at any cost. I think that is no way to run a government at all. Businesses should pretty capitalist, but the government should also be willing to tax them at a level where basic services should be provided for all at no cost at point of use. A severe wealth tax at over a billion in assets would do wonders.
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campaigning update: wasn't organised/awake enough to make it to the canvassing kick off so picked up a couple of leaflet routes, think I did a couple of hundred houses this afternoon (based on the numbers on the route maps, not sure how accurate they are) only ran into a handful of people on their driveways, who were either polite or actively pleased, and saw some labour canvassers weaponising my hobby of wandering around listening to podcasts for socialism  also seen the first conservative signs, 3 in fields because farmers are cunts and 1 in a garden. there are dozens of labour signs out though, so not too discouraging. given this is a marginal (Wirral west, ~400 votes in it in 2015) you have to wonder why they're not trying hardet e: just seen the 4th field sign XMNN fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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I got the dreaded question at dinner with my folks tonight: "what's all this about Jo Swinson & squirrels?"
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forkboy84 posted:I got the dreaded question at dinner with my folks tonight: "what's all this about Jo Swinson & squirrels?" It's her band. They'll be touring again after the election, because Jo will need the money. It's her own private hell 
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XMNN posted:campaigning update: Mike Gapes has been going around Ilford South with a magic marker, drawing his face onto Labour lawn signs. So far he's been bitten by dogs twice, and had to explain seven times that no, he is not a pervert. Mike battles on. Update: Mike just tweeted this picture to show how well it's all going: 
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I am a pretty firm capitalist for the most part Boooooooooooooooooo
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we will put up a statue of a black person while making sure they're deported. i love this nation.
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I fear Sturgeon giving it the big one about Trident today is going to hamstring Labour in my hometown constituency of Barrow. They have an excellent candidate there in Chris Altree (ex forces now RMT) but feel like this is just a petrol bomb on the perennial 'LABOUR WILL SHUT THE YARD AND YOU'LL ALL DIE' tory argument that people somehow buy into even though Thatcher laid shipyard workers off in their thousands 
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I shouldn't read Hilaire Belloc in the run-up to an election. Things like this happen. BALLADE FOR THE WHOLE drat COUNTRY It's fair to say that things aren't going well. Crises whirl on. We're in the dying days. Week upon week our life just goes to hell. Can we escape from this, the final phase? Is there no cure for this sad, blue malaise? Are we foredoomed to grow still more austere? The time has come. There'll be no more delays. Oh! let us keep the red flag flying here. You want me to explain? Oh, very well. I'm speaking of Great Britain nowadays. We're shackled by a millionaire cartel Who know the ugly truth -- that Brexit pays. In fake news dust and in spin doctor haze The country's rivalries are sad and drear. We must rise up, awaken from our daze. Oh! let us keep the red flag flying here. There isn't too much more for me to tell. I'm sure that you will not be too amazed When I say that it's urgent to expel These Johnsons, Rees-Moggs and Theresa Mays. I don't ask you to trumpet Corbyn's praise, But now that our last chance is drawing near, On this most crucial of election days, Oh! let us keep the red flag flying here. Dear Boris Johnson: here comes your bombshell. We've got a cure, we've got a panacea. We'll throw you down, you loving Eton swell. Oh! let us keep the red flag flying here.
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Rarity posted:Boooooooooooooooooo
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Rarity posted:Boooooooooooooooooo Governments are not businesses?
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CoolCab posted:we will put up a statue of a black person while making sure they're deported. i love this nation. Excuse me we have statues of black people. There's at least one on Nelson's column. What? Did I say something wrong?
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Most of us in this thread are extremely flaccid capitalists
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Got a date with the Jam Man tomorrow. Suhweet!
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Boooooo, Jeremy Corbyn!  Boooooo, Jeremy Corbyn!  Boooooo, Jeremy Cor-or-or-or-or-or-byn!  *guitar solo*  Edit: Well poo poo, I was trying to play the guitar solo from Kid Charlemagne IRL but it has become Oh Jeremy Corbyn in A. Some of my techniques work quite well for it
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feedmegin posted:Most of us in this thread are extremely flaccid capitalists Pretty sure this counts as libel.
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imagine having a manifesto promise being putting up a statue. wait no, they're not even promising to put up a statue, they're promising to continue to support the putting up of a statue inspiring
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feedmegin posted:Most of us in this thread are extremely flaccid capitalists Oh man, have I got an untested dick pill for you! 
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superLINUS posted:Got a date with the Jam Man tomorrow. Suhweet! I hope he takes you somewhere nice. 
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all capitalists will be flaccid once jeremy corbyn and his momentum thugs seize power and declare money illegal
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i've be picking through the tory manifesto for points that other are likely to gloss over:
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Governments are not businesses? Capitalism is an ideology of greed that even in a context of nationalised public services still openly encourages abuses of vulnerable that is responsible for among other things landlordism, the climate crisis, entrenched social immobility, corruption, Grenfell and the continued poverty of the developing world. I don't understand how anyone can ethically say that they support it.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Governments are not businesses? No, they are governments, hth
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Rarity posted:Capitalism is an ideology of greed that even in a context of nationalised public services still openly encourages abuses of vulnerable that is responsible for among other things landlordism, the climate crisis, entrenched social immobility, corruption, Grenfell and the continued poverty of the developing world. I don't understand how anyone can ethically say that they support it. All things the government can influence with taxes and subsidies. I guess stop electing people like Boris Johnson?
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just lol at rental deposit loans what a loving disaster
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Lord_Hambrose posted:All things the government can influence with taxes and subsidies. I guess stop electing people like Boris Johnson? lol if you think Joris was actually elected
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Lord_Hambrose posted:All things the government can influence with taxes and subsidies. I guess stop electing people like Boris Johnson? Yeah cool. Who do you think the "most successful capitalists" are spending vast sums of money to get elected?
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:i've be picking through the tory manifesto for points that other are likely to gloss over: Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:
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