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Apparently Samsung has a 75" 4k prototype, but who knows what the actual specs are. https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/6/18168793/samsungs-75-inch-microled-4k-tv-pitcure-quality-ces-2019 Either way that poo poo looks $$$ as gently caress and I can't see the price coming down to non-insane levels for a long time. Also I wonder what kind of banding, color balance etc. issues will pop up when people get the chance to test retail models.
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bull3964 posted:microLED has an even bigger packaging issue than price issue. Pixel density just isn't there yet and it's like impossible to have a 4k screen under like 100 inches or something. Yeah this is what seems like it will be the almost insurmountable problem. Just packing those individual LEDs that close together seems impossible for residential uses.
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Has anyone use Calman home for LG auto calibrate on the C9? Were you satisfied with the results, was it a big improvement, what hardware did you use? I'm thinking about getting it and the X-Rite i1Display Pro Plus.
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Regarding OLEDs, unless prices changed significantly since I got mine, these seem like really good deals: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-7GF7QOCR15v/brandspecials_330650/LG/OLED-TVs-Deals.html?&o=p&omnews=15772390The Big Bad Worf posted:2) You'll want at least a C if you're looking at the LG sets. The processor inside the TV is better in the C than it is in the B, and this matters for the longevity of the set in the sense that there's a greater than zero chance that a feature will be patched in to the firmware of the C TV that the B TV will never receive because it's on lower end hardware. If you can afford the C, get the C. Higher end LGTVs are generally upgrades to the stand or built in sound, which wont matter if you aren't hung up on aesthetics, plan to mount the TV, or have an external sound system you plan to use anyway. From everything I've read, this seems kind of dubious. Most post-processing stuff on these TVs seems kind of unnecessary and it seems like blind speculation that some important feature that requires the C processor will be released in the future. I'd probably go with the C there were a <$200 price difference, but even that would probably not be a good decision and just something I'd do for peace of mind. When I got mine, there was a $300+ difference, which I doubt would have been worth it. fuf posted:There's actually a 65-inch Samsung QLED that would be feasible for me, but now I have this stupid idea in my head that only OLED will do. This is not stupid, this is a 100% correct idea. I was watching something on a regular 4k TV yesterday, and the difference is downright astounding. Everything looks so washed out and the "blacks" are noticeably just dark grey.
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lordfrikk posted:I caved and got the 55" C9. On rtings.com they show the difference that calibration makes. Do people actually calibrate their TV for home use? I did, but I have the kind of autism that makes me spend $200 on a colorimeter to calibrate a $500 TV, and loved every second of the probably 10-15 hours I spent making numbers go down. But it looks fantastic now.
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Calibrating will also be room/screen specific whereas copying someone else’s settings is a crap shoot if your panel differs enough, or your viewing environment is different. Good starting place, but don’t assume they’re ‘right’.
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Nov 25, 2019 20:11
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Professional calibration is insanely dumb but I can definitely see why it exists and why dummies pay for it. Unless you're doing color grading on your TV just sit down when you get it and move the sliders around until it looks good to you. Edit: Just don't set the OLED backlight to 100. 
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Ytlaya posted:it seems like blind speculation that some important feature that requires the C processor will be released in the future. It's not though. The B6 has already encountered this limitation compared to the C6 and higher.
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I'm getting stuff to wall mount a TV and hide cabling in the walls. The Internet says CL3 cabling is needed for fire safety. It's easy enough to find HDMI and toslink cabling with that rated, but what about the TV's power cord? Because it carries electricity and not a proper signal, is it by default fine to run through a wall? Speaking of mounts, any recommendations? It should be an uncomplicated install, so I'm thinking I just get the Monoprice one unless the thread has better ideas.
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Boxman posted:is it by default fine to run through a wall?
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Boxman posted:I'm getting stuff to wall mount a TV and hide cabling in the walls. The Internet says CL3 cabling is needed for fire safety. It's easy enough to find HDMI and toslink cabling with that rated, but what about the TV's power cord? Because it carries electricity and not a proper signal, is it by default fine to run through a wall? I used one of these: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/legrand-in-wall-power-kit-white/4385100.p?skuId=4385100 It was easy enough and comes with all the hardware and tools you need. I think you need a drill but that's it. edit: the one I linked only has a single outlet but they have single gang duplex version as well. it just mounts into a bigger recessed box rather than a smaller circle. TheWevel fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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I currently have a nearly 10 year old Samsung LN40B630 40" LCD. We've been pretty happy with it, but I was curious if there was something major I am missing out on with more current sets. We mainly just watch a little bit of TV and Movies, no gaming or any specific needs or requirements. I just figured this is probably one of the better times to pick one up with the Black Friday sales if I was going to. And I think the max size our space could hold would be ~50" I guess to ask a question, are there a couple of specific sets that folks would recommend as a replacement to my current TV in the 50" size range, and hopefully a max budget of around $500? Here's link to my current TV: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U3Y8Q8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Falco fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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Falco posted:I currently have a nearly 10 year old Samsung LN40B630 40" LCD. We've been pretty happy with it, but I was curious if there was something major I am missing out on with more current sets. 4K, HDR, and generally 10 years of progress with regards to LCD/LED/OLED.
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EL BROMANCE posted:4K, HDR, and generally 10 years of progress with regards to LCD/LED/OLED. For content: we have a 2011ish 3D Samsung. When you hit the apps button, it minimizes the video to a small window to display all the apps and options. (Not like many of them work anymore, though) Our 2018ish Samsung will bring up a scrollable menu on the bottom and slightly dim the screen to make it stand out. The process is a lot smoother. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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EL BROMANCE posted:4K, HDR, and generally 10 years of progress with regards to LCD/LED/OLED. FilthyImp posted:And the menus. Unless you really hate the smart features and apps. Welp that make sense. At this point, I could care less about smart features and apps, but maybe I don't know what I'm missing out on. We have a FireTV that handles Netflix, Kodi, Prime etc. which seems to work great. I updated my post to ask if there were any TV's around the 50" size range that are suggested for around $500 or less.
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Falco posted:Welp that make sense. At this point, I could care less about smart features and apps, but maybe I don't know what I'm missing out on. We have a FireTV that handles Netflix, Kodi, Prime etc. which seems to work great. Couldn't care less. Tcl 6 series.
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How's this one for you: https://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-50-Class-M-Series-Quantum-4K-Ultra-HD-2160p-HDR-Smart-TV-M507-G1-2019-Model/844120122
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You can easily pick up a 50 or 55 inch tv for $500 that will be 4K and HDR, like a TCL 4/5/6 series.
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Yeah either increase your budget by a bit to get a TCL 6 or just grab whatever $149 doorbuster Wal-Mart has for the next few years. $400-500 is no-man's land for good TVs.
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It’s not the end of the world to pick up a 5 series for $350.
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Budget: $500 - $800 Size: 55" - 65" Technology: Smart TV, LED 4K UHD. OLED seems out of my price range. This TV will replace the current one in my living room I bought in 2010. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16889005165?Item=N82E16889005165 I would like to stay within my budget, but might be convinced to go higher. As you can see, I do not buy televisions very often (last one I bought was almost 10 years ago), rather pick one I will enjoy for a long time. I was looking at Samsung QN55Q60RAFXZA Flat 55-Inch QLED 4K Q60 Series Ultra HD Smart TV on Amazon. I realize QLED and OLED are different. https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-QN55...159&sr=1-4&th=1 Also looking at TCL 65" Class 6-Series 4K UHD QLED Dolby Vision HDR Roku Smart TV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V4TC9V...D___%7Cst%3Adtp This is "out of my price range" but seems like an amazing deal https://www.newegg.com/p/16C-000P-00364?Description=%20OLED65C9&cm_re=OLED65C9-_-16C-000P-00364-_-Product
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The TCL 6 series is a great TV and will certainly blow your socks off coming from a 2010 LCD. OLED is amazing but it's not worth overextending yourself and basically doubling your budget. Also always get the bigger TV, even if you think it won't really fit your situation. A 65" TV is 40% more TV than a 55". No one ever says they wish they got the smaller one.
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Awesome, thank you all for the suggestions. I'll take a look at the sales this week and see if anything fits the bill. Butterfly Valley posted:Couldn't care less. Thanks for keeping me honest 
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Its really confusing as a dummy trying to find this TCL 6 series on sale. I search for "TCL 6 series" and I get tvs that apparently aren't either the 6 series or are an older model. The only clue I havef for if its the wrong tv is if a price is $200 lower but... thats kinda what I'm hoping to find with the sales?
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TomR posted:No, you are correct. Current "LED" TVs have an LED backlight, as apposed to a cold cathode or similar, just to show how out of date calling an LCD panel LED is today. Oh OK, that makes sense. Still, like you mentioned, it sounds really expensive.
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Its really confusing as a dummy trying to find this TCL 6 series on sale. I search for "TCL 6 series" and I get tvs that apparently aren't either the 6 series or are an older model. The only clue I havef for if its the wrong tv is if a price is $200 lower but... thats kinda what I'm hoping to find with the sales?
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Was any thread consensus reached on C9 vs B9. I can see a pretty good offer on a B9 (lower than the current amazon.co.uk/.de price, which is already on sale and the lowest its been according to camelcamelcamel) I have no TV (well, a 15 year old HD I inherited that I never use) so anything is an upgrade.
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I think the difference is the processor which means you can spend an extra $200 or whatever for the chance of futureproofing another year or two out of your device. The C9 is probably the smarter buy but the B9 is the exact same panel so if you find a good deal then jump on it. You won't be disappointed.
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American McGay posted:Try searching for R615/R617 (last year's model) or R625 (this year's). Also R613 if buying from Costco for 2018 model.
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Its really confusing as a dummy trying to find this TCL 6 series on sale. I search for "TCL 6 series" and I get tvs that apparently aren't either the 6 series or are an older model. The only clue I havef for if its the wrong tv is if a price is $200 lower but... thats kinda what I'm hoping to find with the sales? The 55 and 65" are on sale on Rakuten right now from Electronics Express (I've ordered from them they're legit). 55" is $499 with free shipping after coupon code. 65" is $699 but unfortunately has $150 shipping so... might as well get it from a B&M store. https://www.rakuten.com/shop/search/R625/
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bull3964 posted:It's not though. The B6 has already encountered this limitation compared to the C6 and higher. Ah, you're correct. It seems like the main differences that would actually be noticeable are the higher brightness on the C (not sure how the processor relates to this, but apparently it's the case) and being able to do HDR and high frame-rate at the same time. There's apparently also stuff like improved noise reduction, but I doubt that would be particularly noticeable to most people.
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10 years ago, for Black Friday, I snagged a 32" Westinghouse for $265.
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It's crazy that it went from 32" HouseBrand with dodgy internals to, like, a 75" TCL.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:10 years ago, for Black Friday, I snagged a 32" Westinghouse for $265. I follow this thread half assedly since I'm thinking about an upgrade*. Will probably ask a couple dumb questions when I'm closer to buying, though the answer will invariably be "You want the C9 65 inch." I am only posting now, cause someone said the magic word. Westinghouse. *My current TV is a 55" Westinghouse. And it's not old. I've bought the piece of poo poo in 2017. Target black Friday + weird Target 20% off coupon + 5% off from using a red card + deceased mother-in-law's 10% employee discount that somehow still works to this day = I got it for $150. I'm pretty sure roughly half of you would gouge your eyes out if you had to spend 10 minutes in front of it.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:10 years ago, for Black Friday, I snagged a 32" Westinghouse for $265. Some... 5, 6 or 7 years ago? I snagged a 42" TCL (before TCL is what is now) for $189 which was an INSANE deal at the time that was not announced (Amazon lightning deal) and sold out in a few minutes. I still have the TV. One of the cheapest feeling things ever but it's held up! I miss when it felt like you could get those insane popup deals on Black Friday.
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Well, I decided to order the 55 inch TCL for $399 and the TV came today broken just as I was afraid of. Talk about bad luck.
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My roommate bought a 65" Samsung UN65JU7100F back in 2017 for cheap because it was a 2016 model and it has been frustrating to use for anything other than viewing content on a single input. It displays 4K well enough as long as I disable the frame rate booster thingy buried in numerous obtuse menus but the user interface is really slow and clunky. Something as simple as changing inputs is a chore because the switcher interface takes forever to show up and then scroll to the input I want. Connecting my Bluetooth headset is a whole other ordeal. Since I constantly switch between devices, the headset won't automatically connect and the option to re-sync it is again buried in numerous slow menus. And then there is the not quite minimalist remote with the useless motion control that's too easy to trigger and the D-pad buttons are getting sticky so navigating the menu is getting more difficult. It also looks like Samsung hasn't offered system updates for a while so it doesn't look like there is any way to make the software better. Coupled with the fact that one of the connected devices I use with it is an almost as frustrating to use XboneX and it's any wonder I haven't trashed either device. Even something as simple as streaming video is somehow a struggle with this combination. I'm this close to having my roommate get rid of the drat thing and I would offer to buy something that isn't a piece of junk from a clearance sale. Have Samsung smart TVs gotten any better and faster since then? This whole experience has me soured on Samsung TVs.
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Is the 65" TCL going to be under $800 anywhere this week?
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