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NGU: Noticed i was closing in on the stats for BTS so i decided to do a several day rebirth. Finally i had more than the BTS stats, 900e24 power and 750e24 toughness (the BTS enemies has 600e24 in both) But no, i still almost instantly get killed when entering. Checking the wiki it states you need 3.6e27 power and 1.8e27 toughness for BTS. Huh? Is this how adventure has always been? I could have sworn i have in the past gauged whether i was ready for a new zone by comparing my adventure stats to the new zone and when mine were higher i could enter and do said zone without a problem. Apparently not. So my multi day rebirth was completely pointless and has actually set me back instead of being useful.
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Some more upgrades for incremancer: Give your earth golems a chance to reflect bullets via regular upgrade, a prestige upgrade to automate buying regular upgrades, and a second regular upgrade for the graveyard/clicks to produce gigazombies at 5x the base zombie energy price. Plus, try casting Gigazombies once you have the upgrade unlocked/active. They stack 
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Ineptitude posted:NGU: Noticed i was closing in on the stats for BTS so i decided to do a several day rebirth. Yeah, it's always been like that. You need significantly higher stats than the enemies in order to make progress. I'm at 2 Oc / 1 Oc and I can idle-snipe bosses.
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Arcanuse posted:Some more upgrades for incremancer: Give your earth golems a chance to reflect bullets via regular upgrade, a prestige upgrade to automate buying regular upgrades, and a second regular upgrade for the graveyard/clicks to produce gigazombies at 5x the base zombie energy price. I do not see any of this on the domain just for the game, where are you seeing this?
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Nov 22, 2019 21:27
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Kongregate. Could be they haven't moved over the new stuff to the game domain.
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Nov 22, 2019 23:45
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Nov 23, 2019 05:27
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Cookie Clicker Mobile progress report: it sucks. Though it has the Grandmapocalypse, no prestige mechanic had been added yet. I'm at 30 Qi cookies, the next upgrade is 100Qi, golden cookies don't seem to spawn anymore. I'm reduced to opening the game every two days, buying the most I can of whatever building, and bugging Orteil on Twitter if he's ever going to update this thing.
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Nov 23, 2019 08:43
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On the NGU front I find that I'm hitting a hard wall where I can idle Walderp, but I can't progress to the badly-drawn area even while managing combat manually. Is the intended route forward to just idle for like a month to max out the walderp set and do twice-daily yggdrasil/iron pills to slowly ease my adventurer stats up?
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Nov 23, 2019 09:15
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Omi no Kami posted:On the NGU front I find that I'm hitting a hard wall where I can idle Walderp, but I can't progress to the badly-drawn area even while managing combat manually. Is the intended route forward to just idle for like a month to max out the walderp set and do twice-daily yggdrasil/iron pills to slowly ease my adventurer stats up? If you're not spend in adventure ngu. The soft cap is not as bad as advertised. But yes you've hit an infamous wall
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Eldercain posted:If you're not spend in adventure ngu. The soft cap is not as bad as advertised. But yes you've hit an infamous wall Oh cool, I forgot all about the adventurer NGU- I just dumped a crapton of energy into it, since I don't really need wandoos or the time machine while grinding adventurer stuff- thanks! 
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Nov 23, 2019 09:53
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Francis posted:what does personalized insult mean anyway It means if you PM me to claim your insult i will literally do that. I will insult you, right in your face.
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Nov 23, 2019 16:07
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I’m just about capped out of Chocolate stuff and eyeing the transition to Evil difficulty. Everyone says that it’s a huge slog so I’m a bit way of actually switching over just yet.
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Nov 23, 2019 19:19
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I'm making my way through that and getting to boss 301 is being way much more of a pain than I was expecting. Should hit it tomorrow, but even then there's basically nothing I can do, or did so far, except wait for my Number, Fruits, Beards, and all the other stuff to boost me.
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Nov 23, 2019 19:31
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Merijn posted:I'm reduced to opening the game every two days, buying the most I can of whatever building, and bugging Orteil on Twitter if he's ever going to update this thing. ...Please tell me you're not actually doing that. There's a reason we only just got a mobile version at all a few months ago.
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Omi no Kami posted:On the NGU front I find that I'm hitting a hard wall where I can idle Walderp, but I can't progress to the badly-drawn area even while managing combat manually. Is the intended route forward to just idle for like a month to max out the walderp set and do twice-daily yggdrasil/iron pills to slowly ease my adventurer stats up? Adventure NGU and Basic Challenges.
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Nov 23, 2019 23:04
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Adventure NGU and Basic Challenges. And Beards, beards are huge The perks that let you bank beard/training are really good too, since keeping temp levels on this rebirth lets you push further on next rebirth, etc...
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Nov 24, 2019 02:40
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Evolve made a big update, adding Governments and Spies! And another species of Mammal! I'm doing an Anti-Matter Universe which sucks, especially when I took Centaur as the first choice. Not having your soldiers bringing back food means you have a lot of your citizens farming.  Past that, now I'm a god drat Salamander.
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Nov 24, 2019 04:21
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I’ve just unlocked beards after a 3 day rebirth with Energy Potion Beta active. Conscious I’ve got 2x power, what should I use that on before I rebirth? Should I get beards to a certain level or some NGU’s?
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Nov 24, 2019 20:22
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Stumbled across this thread and tried out NGU - dear god this is weapons grade stuff. Am still very early on but noticing a real struggle to get my number past the low Decillions. So far I've just been trying to dump as much energy as possibe into augmentation to push bosses, but not idea if that's the best approach? Should I be speedrunning and pumping XP into something other than Energy?
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Nov 24, 2019 20:53
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bubbapook posted:Stumbled across this thread and tried out NGU - dear god this is weapons grade stuff. Adventure mode is where you unlock real progress with new features, so don't neglect it. Collecting/leveling up/boosting new sets is important. Don't worry about always making your number go up - aside from earning exp from defeating bosses, and unlocking new adventure zones, pushing deep into bosses isn't that vital. This is why some of the good ways to get exp is to grind out 1-hour resets. Energy is the most important at the beginning, yes. Try to balance exp spent on cap and power (after you get your speed up pretty well). Look through all the special/misc tabs for spending exp - Training Auto Advance is really clutch, for example.
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Nov 24, 2019 20:59
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Is this what it feels like to be posting for free NGU goodness?
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No. (I'm away for a week, but i'll hook you up when I get back!)
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Devor posted:Adventure mode is where you unlock real progress with new features, so don't neglect it. Collecting/leveling up/boosting new sets is important. Thanks! So I've been focusing on Adventure Mode, but I hit a total wall at the Sky level, where I'm like 100 toughness below what's needed and nearly all of my gear is fully boosted for its level - should I just dump XP into adventure stats until I can handle Sky?
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bubbapook posted:Stumbled across this thread and tried out NGU - dear god this is weapons grade stuff. nah, augmentations are the easiest early way to punch above your weight limit, just kind of keep a balanced strategy for which ones you use until you clear boss 35, at which point you can kind of just ignore everything that isn't safety scissors for a long while you should be doing roughly hour runs at this point, you need to be lowering the basic training energy requirements, and pushing number as much as you can. basic training will always cap out around 29 minutes if you cap the bars you should start spending EXP on the adventure stuff when you clear boss 58 and you're going to see a transition into longer runs (once the basic training ends) bubbapook posted:Thanks! So I've been focusing on Adventure Mode, but I hit a total wall at the Sky level, where I'm like 100 toughness below what's needed and nearly all of my gear is fully boosted for its level - should I just dump XP into adventure stats until I can handle Sky? if you got a key from the sky, use it, enter the ITOPOD and try to do some of the lower levels, get 5 perk points and spend them on the 5 newbie packs otherwise try to make up some of the difference with advanced training (it can exceed 100%)
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bubbapook posted:Thanks! So I've been focusing on Adventure Mode, but I hit a total wall at the Sky level, where I'm like 100 toughness below what's needed and nearly all of my gear is fully boosted for its level - should I just dump XP into adventure stats until I can handle Sky? At least as for when you're that early on the general rule of thumb is that spending XP on E/M to get resources that let you do stuff like buy more augmentations will benefit you more in the long run. I mostly ignored buying Adv stats for XP until I was way deeper into the game and getting tens of millions of XP to spend on a rebirth. Devor's referring to is the stuff in the Adv Special and Misc tabs like the Loot filters and training auto advance that will make runs gradually easier for you.
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I've found myself a little bit stuck on NGU. I've maxed out the Megalands gear, but I'm not getting anywhere near putting a dent in UUG. Should I be focusing on NGU or challenges to help me out? I'm probably missing something obvious, but I would appreciate the help nonetheless!
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mrbasehart posted:I've found myself a little bit stuck on NGU. I've maxed out the Megalands gear, but I'm not getting anywhere near putting a dent in UUG. Should I be focusing on NGU or challenges to help me out? I'm probably missing something obvious, but I would appreciate the help nonetheless! I popped the Beta Power potion and did a long rebirth throwing all energy into Adventure Stat NGU and Advanced Training. UUG has a quirk that you may want to check the NGU wiki about
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bubbapook posted:Thanks! So I've been focusing on Adventure Mode, but I hit a total wall at the Sky level, where I'm like 100 toughness below what's needed and nearly all of my gear is fully boosted for its level - should I just dump XP into adventure stats until I can handle Sky? Buying stats directly with exp is kind of a trap - it's sort of "wasted" once you tier up to the next rung of equipment. It doesn't matter that you bough 100 power when your equipment is giving you 10,000 now, and that exp as energy power could be helpful. Is your gear maxed out at level 100? That essentially doubles the stats once you boost it completely. Are you wearing the stats you need (power and toughness) in your accessory slots? You'll have choices about what to wear throughout the game. Combat cheese is your go-to at this point when you're wanting power/toughness.
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Devor posted:Buying stats directly with exp is kind of a trap - it's sort of "wasted" once you tier up to the next rung of equipment. It doesn't matter that you bough 100 power when your equipment is giving you 10,000 now, and that exp as energy power could be helpful. Yep, got Combat Cheese and Mossy Ring atm. Will avoid dumping XP into adventure stats as what you said makes sense. Will just keep pushing up Energy Speed / Power and the cap (I'm only at 230k energy so far)
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Oodles posted:I popped the Beta Power potion and did a long rebirth throwing all energy into Adventure Stat NGU and Advanced Training. Nice! I would have never figured that out.
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NGU Dual Wielding Wish Question So I unlocked both from the Troll Challenge. I maxed out the first wish, so 50% if the math is right, then got 4 levels in the second wish. So 70% ? But when I fiddle with what weapon goes in what spot the math don't work out to 70% effective in the second spot. Anybody know how that works? Edit: Never mind I am bad at basic math
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bubbapook posted:Yep, got Combat Cheese and Mossy Ring atm. Will avoid dumping XP into adventure stats as what you said makes sense. Will just keep pushing up Energy Speed / Power and the cap (I'm only at 230k energy so far) speed hard caps at 50, so make it your first priority for both magic and energy
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:speed hard caps at 50, so make it your first priority for both magic and energy Why can you buy over 50 in speed? Not that I have, just wondering what the point is
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Lord Banana posted:Why can you buy over 50 in speed? Not that I have, just wondering what the point is Once upon a time, the design for Evil would've demanded you spend more in Speed. That changed, and IIRC something removed the ability to buy above 50, but some idiots like me bought above that before he removed it. I have 51 energy speed forevermore. 🙃
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Lord Banana posted:Why can you buy over 50 in speed? Not that I have, just wondering what the point is This bug was fixed about 2 years ago. Some people could buy more speed at 50, some couldn't, it depended on rounding because of floats. If you could you were supposed to because you weren't getting full speed and if you couldn't you were at cap. There was a group of people that wanted to buy past 50 for reasons (it was seriously someone else in discord has 50.1 speed I want it too) 4G let people for a bit then realized that it was causing confusion and put the cap back in place. There is zero reason to have over 50 cap anymore. There was talk about jacking the price up past 50 and making Evil require 500 speed, but that was never implemented. I think it currently stops you from buying over 50. Kyrosiris posted:Once upon a time, the design for Evil would've demanded you spend more in Speed. That changed, and IIRC something removed the ability to buy above 50, but some idiots like me bought above that before he removed it. I have 51 energy speed forevermore. 🙃 51.1  (I bought .1 and was still going at half speed, drat rounding errors during early beta!)
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I'm like 99% sure I have 60 speed and it wouldn't let me buy more after that
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serefin99 posted:...Please tell me you're not actually doing that. There's a reason we only just got a mobile version at all a few months ago. What do you mean? Is he explicitly delaying new stuff when people ask when it's coming? I just asked him once, I phrased that a bit awkward.
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Merijn posted:What do you mean? Is he explicitly delaying new stuff when people ask when it's coming? I just asked him once, I phrased that a bit awkward. Sorry, from how you worded it, it sounded like you were frequently bothering him about it. From what I've been able to gather, Cookie Clicker was basically programmed with computers in mind and nothing more. Porting it over to mobile devices isn't as simple as just dragging and dropping the code, Orteil is basically having to rebuild the entire game from the ground up. That's why we only recently got mobile CC, and also why an update for said mobile version isn't likely to come soon.
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Congrats on NGU Idle getting onto Steam's top releases of October list: https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1630795514034259762
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NGU Any tips for late Evil mode. I am currently grinding my way to be able to sniff Rad land. Maxed out the Exile easy drops. Just crawling along doing 24 rebirths doing wishes and and QP grinding. ScottyJSno fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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