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Munkeymon posted:I'm assuming it's an act, but I don't know to what end. Who can honestly tell the true motivations of the multi-millionaire ex-president who whiles away his retirement windsurfing off the coast of billionaire island.
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one of the things I appreciate but also lament of this thread is how much it's made me realize that drat, Obama really does suck rear end
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ozmunkeh posted:Who can honestly tell the true motivations of the multi-millionaire ex-president who whiles away his retirement windsurfing off the coast of billionaire island. Vaping and arugula, his two great loves.
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Tatsuta Age posted:one of the things I appreciate but also lament of this thread is how much it's made me realize that drat, Obama really does suck rear end Yeah, but I don't mind people just passively coming to the realization. I don't need trumpets blazing, I'm just happy with the new attitude of "lets get all of it next time" a lot folks have now.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:I think it's more that he didn't learn the lessons we wanted him to learn. Let's face it, B-Rock has more in common with GWB than he has with us. It makes my stomach flip to think that the only lesson he learned is that of Clarence Thomas, equality only comes from getting rich.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Playing moderate peacemaker is how you lose. Bush and his cronies should've been tried.
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I haven't seen this much angsty atheist in D&D for a while. I guess these things go in cycles? Anyway, remember that it is important to understand spirituality as a motivating factor, and WHY it's a motivating factor, for both one's allies and enemies. For every crypto-fascist Evangelical or SSPXII person you meet that's trying to wreck things, there is probably a Jesuit or Unitarian or Jimmy Carter who are trying to work with us towards tolerance, understanding, and a better world. Saying things like "religion is a poison" and what have you isn't constructive and makes it easier for people to not take you seriously.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Playing moderate peacemaker is how you lose. Bush and his cronies should've been tried. So many Civ-like games have proven that you can only get away with that if you're much more powerful than everyone else
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ozmunkeh posted:Who can honestly tell the true motivations of the multi-millionaire ex-president who whiles away his retirement windsurfing off the coast of billionaire island. If it was me and the country was at stake I would try to at least do something.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:48
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I remember shortly after the election he said he was going to work on voting rights/gerrymandering, but I don’t know how much he’s done on it.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:51
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Mr. Wiggles posted:I haven't seen this much angsty atheist in D&D for a while. I guess these things go in cycles? One person said one harsh thing about religion, the rest has been pretty respectful, and this is in the context of President TRUMO being hailed "the chosen one" to no outcry from any of the good ones like ol Jimmy.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:51
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Nov 26, 2019 17:52
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Despite what Republicans hysterically screeched for a decade, Obama’s politics have always been incredibly conservative.
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Nov 26, 2019 17:53
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:He didn't learn a drat thing from being president. Not true, he learned how to become ultra-rich and how to join the global elite.
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FlamingLiberal posted:He also never seemed very concerned about what Trump was doing and kept windsurfing https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1199371272884490242
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Nov 26, 2019 17:59
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Nov 26, 2019 18:02
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god i hate decorum poo poo. i think robert evans put it best that one of obama's biggest problem is that he overthinks everything and tries to pull west wing galaxy brain solutions to keep norms and or he thinks himself out of a good decsions because what about the norms or some poo poo.
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Obama was a Reagan Republican.quote:His famous phrase, “Hard things are hard,” which was made into a plaque he kept on his desk, was not a reference to the Affordable Care Act, as is commonly believed. According to top strategist David Axelrod, it was a reference to entitlement cuts, to Obama’s genuine desire to impose some kind of austerity on Social Security and Medicare in return for a deal with the Republicans on taxes and the debt. It is telling that Obama chose to endorse Macron and Trudeau, but stays silent on other crucial elections. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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Nov 26, 2019 18:03
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osker posted:It makes my stomach flip to think that the only lesson he learned is that of Clarence Thomas, equality only comes from getting rich. He wasn't wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY
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Tatsuta Age posted:one of the things I appreciate but also lament of this thread is how much it's made me realize that drat, Obama really does suck rear end It says a lot about him that he wouldnt speak out while trump was removing any trace of his work, but suddenly decides he may need to speak up if Bernie outshines him.
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Nov 26, 2019 18:05
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lol just imagine worrying about norms when a game show host who's the dumbest man alive is president.
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just a reminder that the Obama DoJ didn't peruse prosecution on a single Wall Street exec despite there being overwhelming public support for it. Juxtapose that with the GW Bush admin dismantling everyone in Enron, whose CEO was a personal friend of Bush
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Nov 26, 2019 18:08
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Obama won in 2008 by running super far left, even though he wasn’t, and then Hillary lost because she assumed that people liked Obama because he had just governed as a centrist, when really everyone just never stopped thinking he was far left. Obviously though in 2020 the public demands a centrist Democrat and the field has moved too far left.
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That makes sense except that Trump's heart might not pop before January 2021, so that particular norm is probably about to get killed, too, anyway.
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Nov 26, 2019 18:09
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Groovelord Neato posted:lol just imagine worrying about norms when a game show host who's the dumbest man alive is president. You gotta respect the sanctity of the office, even when it's occupied by Crime Clown. Something my dad believes until next election.
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Stereotype posted:Obama won in 2008 by running super far left, He did a fantastic job of running a campaign where you could project what you wanted onto him, but he talked about unity and bipartisanship a LOT.
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theflyingorc posted:Uhhhh, no, not really. When you're running on Hope and Change after the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression most people are gonna expect a transformation of the system not a return to the status quo. The recession is what caused me to move from right to left and I was expecting Obama to be what Bernie Sanders is.
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Groovelord Neato posted:When you're running on Hope and Change after the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression most people are gonna expect a transformation of the system not a return to the status quo. 
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Groovelord Neato posted:When you're running on Hope and Change after the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression most people are gonna expect a transformation of the system not a return to the status quo. That seems to be you agreeing with what I said exactly
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Obama thought FDR moved too fast in his first 100 days and should have cooperated with the banks more.theflyingorc posted:Uhhhh, no, not really. He said as much. quote:In the prologue to the second of his autobiographies, "The Audacity of Hope," Barack Obama said: "I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views."
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Nov 26, 2019 18:15
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how soon until Turkey corruption bubbles up? https://thebulwark.com/trumps-turkey-corruption-is-way-worse-than-you-realize/
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lmao at anyone who thought Obama campaigned on being super left. There’s a lot to critique Obama on, but he governed almost exactly how he campaigned.
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oxsnard posted:how soon until Turkey corruption bubbles up? I mean this really isn't surprising, I remember some of this stuff coming up when Trump decided to abandon the Kurds to be slaughtered.
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whydirt posted:lmao at anyone who thought Obama campaigned on being super left Agreed he wanted to execute pedophiles rather than jail them.
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I really hope they kick this Obama guy out of office next year
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Groovelord Neato posted:lol just imagine worrying about norms when a game show host who's the dumbest man alive is president. He has refused to comment about all of the criminal acts Trump has done but apparently he’s more worried about Warren or Sanders getting the nomination
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oxsnard posted:how soon until Turkey corruption bubbles up? It already has. Flynn went down for lying about cooking up poo poo with Turkey. That was always very obviously the tip of the iceberg there. The thing is, there's just so many crimes, and none of his mafioso underlings have sufficient incentive to uncover it all
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whydirt posted:lmao at anyone who thought Obama campaigned on being super left. Yeah maybe a lot of posters are young and don't remember how Obama campaigned hard on uniting Americans, reaching across the aisle, finding common ground, etc. He promoted a vaguely more left concept of the nation than we had at the time, but it wasn't radical by any means. I think people just forget how utterly dark the time seemed, coming out of Iraq and right in the beginning of the Great Recession.
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