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Doctor Grape Ape posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMoK11P4w6Y loving beautiful. They should have sent a poet. 
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Munin posted:Dropping chaff and only barely able to get away? Dropping my burning load early as I panically pulled up
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Nebakenezzer posted:Russia Launches the first of its Arctic Patrol Ships, a new-ish type of vessel Canada, China, and the US are also getting in to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4jFN1IGwQ "Combat icebreaker". The words make perfect sense, and yet, if they'd been presented to me out of context I'd be expecting another Earth 2150 sequel.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Russia Launches the first of its Arctic Patrol Ships, a new-ish type of vessel Canada, China, and the US are also getting in to.  https://youtu.be/Ch2Rqte6XOs So, Dafur Antisat is a defense contractor now?
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Groda posted:
This is how Russia ships stuff to North Korea, Syria and all those other places they shouldn't be.
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mlmp08 posted:Russia ships things in.... containers and boats?! Weapon systems in non-marked TEU's.
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Cross-post:Nebakenezzer posted:My work recieved a gas mask and a old mess kit today, and the mask included the instructions/maintenance card that came with it. Aside from smelling faintly of piss (not sure if that was the fault of a cat or the still sealed package of "wipes" that came with it) it is pretty cool. Here is the instruction card for, well, various forms of attack. (Canadian, early-mid cold war)
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someone lost their pilots license today https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/26/white-house-on-lockdown-due-to-airspace-violation-fighter-jets-scrambled.html
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Hauldren Collider posted:Looks like it was just a flock of seagulls Or ninety-nine luftballoons!
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That canadian mask being quoted reminded me that I just learned about Danish preparations for going hot in the 60s. Apparently the chemist responsible for designing the "people's gas mask" that was assigned en masse to shelters came out recently and shared the design with a documentary: It didn't really work against nerve agents, and anyway full functionality was depending on a tight seal and achieving it in seconds. She thought it would work well enough to get people to a WMD-sealed shelter. The documentarist was a weapons historian and stated in his Danish way that it would work about as well as a "tailor in hell". After a hit the streets would just be littered with corpses wearing gas masks, which he drily commented would be even worse for morale than regular corpses.
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My dad thanks you for the non-music version of this.
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Tias posted:That canadian mask being quoted reminded me that I just learned about Danish preparations for going hot in the 60s. Apparently the chemist responsible for designing the "people's gas mask" that was assigned en masse to shelters came out recently and shared the design with a documentary: It didn't really work against nerve agents, and anyway full functionality was depending on a tight seal and achieving it in seconds. She thought it would work well enough to get people to a WMD-sealed shelter. With nerve agents, it's going to reduce the actual exposure quite a bit, seeing as all you have left is absorption through the skin, which isn't as effective as actually reaching lung tissue. Besides, as long as you don't get nerve gas in your holes, most of the decontamination is achieved by removing contaminated clothing. A truly concentrated chemical environment isn't really meant to be survived by anyone but those with a mask and full sealed or filtered body coverings, together with decontamination chemicals and the support of decontamination personnel. In a fallout situation, the gas mask is incredibly useful, since there isn't a huge amount of absorption via the skin, and it's more a matter of scrubbing yourself reasonably clean. Internal contamination via your holes is the biggest danger.
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All gas masks require you to get a tight seal. They leak until you do.
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Yeah, but the state gave you impression you could just saunter around in that poo poo regardless of the munition used for however long you needed to get to a secure shelter.
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Siivola posted:All gas masks require you to get a tight seal. They leak until you do. I discovered this while trying to put one on at a place I worked (suspected HCN leak, false alarm fortunately). "Why didn't anyone tell me they're incompatible with having a beard?!"
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Tias posted:Yeah, but the state gave you impression you could just saunter around in that poo poo regardless of the munition used for however long you needed to get to a secure shelter.
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Siivola posted:That's hardly the gas mask's fault. It is if the filter isn't affective on organophospates eg. for production cost reasons or storage etc. Tias, did the chemist say specifically why her design wouldn't be effective? This is a serious internet discussion keep in mind.
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As a draftee our NBC protective posture included pulling your pants legs over the top of your boot and fixing them in place with a little rubber band. Much safe, very protect.
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RIP Syndrome posted:I discovered this while trying to put one on at a place I worked (suspected HCN leak, false alarm fortunately). "Why didn't anyone tell me they're incompatible with having a beard?!" I work with cyanide on a continuous basis and the people that will abjectly refuse to shave their beard for the masks unless their future employment is threatened is amazing. In one instance, a fellow with a beard (admittedly a glorious Viking one) quit rather than shave.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:I work with cyanide on a continuous basis and the people that will abjectly refuse to shave their beard for the masks unless their future employment is threatened is amazing. In one instance, a fellow with a beard (admittedly a glorious Viking one) quit rather than shave. Hah, this just reminded me of the Things I Won't Work With section of Derek Lowe's blog. I'd be willing to bet you've at least seen it. For everyone else here - most of the blog most likely wouldn't interest you, but this section is pure gold if you haven't already read it. It's a research chemist talking about, well, things he won't work with because they're too smelly, too corrosive, or too explosive. It's great because it's both semi-technical in nature so even a layman can absorb most if not all of it, but he's also a pretty talented writer to boot describing various reactions. Keeping it on topic to the thread, here's a link to one of the most popular entries, about the Germans in WWII deciding that one particular compound is just too nasty to even attempt to use. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time
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Shooting Blanks posted:he's also a pretty talented writer to boot describing various reactions. It helps he quotes liberally from Ignition! which is a classic. Like that quip about being hypergolic with test engineers.
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Derek Lowe wrote that article when Ignition! was still out of print (though filezable on PDF), but now, you can have a legit copy for your very own
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Ignition! Is shockingly readable for a book about developing rocket propellant. There are occasionally blocks of chemistry formulas but you are free to skip those.
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Phy posted:Derek Lowe wrote that article when Ignition! was still out of print (though filezable on PDF), but now, you can have a legit copy for your very own I used to have a filez copy of it and never got around to reading it, dammit. Can't seem to find it now.
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Phy posted:Derek Lowe wrote that article when Ignition! was still out of print (though filezable on PDF), but now, you can have a legit copy for your very own I had an old email from the publishing house that Ignition! had gone into the public domain. I shared the email with a mod in order to be able to post a copy of the PDF, I think like back in 2011. I then got a PM from another goon saying "that's interesting, I work for that publishing house and it's definitely not public domain. Who told you it was?" Turned out, the person who told me it was in the public domain knew she was about to get fired and didn't give a single gently caress.
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Well I had an email from their erstwhile representative saying it was ok, plus I'm Australian, it would probably have been more trouble than it's worth to sue me.
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Memento posted:I had an old email from the publishing house that Ignition! had gone into the public domain. I shared the email with a mod in order to be able to post a copy of the PDF, I think like back in 2011. I then got a PM from another goon saying "that's interesting, I work for that publishing house and it's definitely not public domain. Who told you it was?" Hah. That's how we get news reports about Captain Ho Lee Fuk and his crew.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Hah. That's how we get news reports about Captain Ho Lee Fuk and his crew. Wasn’t that an intern that thought he was loving with a prank caller?
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Hah. That's how we get news reports about Captain Ho Lee Fuk and his crew. Was he looking for a big dish of beef chow mien?
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hobbesmaster posted:Wasn’t that an intern that thought he was loving with a prank caller? I had never heard that he thought it was a prank, but possibly. He definitely got fired soon after though. e: apologies, apparently it was Captain Sum Ting Wong as PIC. 
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I can’t say I wouldn’t have done something different as a college student “  Yes, those are actual real names of actual people”
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