|
BWV posted:Succession is good and I like it but it's also Entourage for Gen Exers. Feel like you are definitely watching the show wrong if this is your take but yes Succession is awesome. The Ringer is also hardly the only place calling it good. It got mixed reviews based on the first couple episodes because people were still figuring out the tone but after that it has been pretty much universally praised.
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 14:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 09:06 |
|
|
Succession has fewer viewers than the Internet makes it seem because every single media person happens to watch it but its extremely good. The Ringer is also obligated to write 8,000 pieces per season about every Sunday night HBO show.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 14:50
|
|
|
BWV posted:Succession is good and I like it but it's also Entourage for Gen Exers. Entourage was also written for Xers, just slimy ones.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 15:55
|
|
|
Yeah, I'm confused by this. Who do you think Entourage was written for, or who do you think Gen-X is?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 16:36
|
|
|
To me gen Xers are people currently in their early 40s to 50. People around Kendall's age. Anyway I was being pithy but what I meant was that part of the shows appeal is a type of wealth tourism but instead of showing Young Hollywood money it explores established institutional generational wealth. Like I said, I think it's good and I think the writing and characters are really well fleshed out but a big part of its appeal I think is also the excessive wealth and a more grown up professional balling-ness it offers I get that this folds back into the critique of wealth but I also see how this wealth is fetishized. And I'm not saying this is really that bad just explaining my one liner post. BWV fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Nov 25, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 16:58
|
|
|
Being aspirational rich person porn was like the only point of Entourage though. It wanted you to think those people were cool and root for them. There's some element of "look at this awesome rich person poo poo" to Succession but they usually try to undercut it somehow and ultimately you're not supposed to be identifying with or rooting for the people in it, you're supposed to think they're awful.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 17:05
|
|
|
MourningView posted:Being aspirational rich person porn was like the only point of Entourage though. It wanted you to think those people were cool and root for them. There's some element of "look at this awesome rich person poo poo" to Succession but they usually try to undercut it somehow and ultimately you're not supposed to be identifying with or rooting for the people in it, you're supposed to think they're awful. Also in spite of their wealth they're all miserable shits with horrible personal lives because they are incapable of forming a relationship that doesn't have an expectation of backstabbing. Several of them are just pathetic all around (Tom, Roman).
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 17:15
|
|
|
I'm just happy the we live in a universe where Aquaman is real and they found the Vinny Chasest dude to be Aquaman.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 17:30
|
|
|
This isn't a criticism, but I think you can simultaneously find the everyone in the show reprehensible while still on some level being invested in everybody's personal stakes. When Kendall finally gets a little nod of approval from his dad, I don't think you're expected to feel nothing. After all, filmed media is an empathy machine, to paraphrase Ebert.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 17:31
|
|
|
MourningView posted:Being aspirational rich person porn was like the only point of Entourage though. It wanted you to think those people were cool and root for them. There's some element of "look at this awesome rich person poo poo" to Succession but they usually try to undercut it somehow and ultimately you're not supposed to be identifying with or rooting for the people in it, you're supposed to think they're awful. Yea I agree with this. It is entirely more sophisticated and thoughtful than I alluded to. Sometimes tho it's fun to just rip off a scorching hot take and see where it goes.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 17:50
|
|
|
Yes just like godfather /scarface, they're aspirational. I've just listened to people talk about these shows, they all sound similar, and i don't really want to hear more about rich people problem, there was this show called the mentalist, it also had rich people problem, and but a guy there to make fun and arrest them. Also dirty sexy money, the perfect rich family show, and they were taken down from a loyal employee who they crossed. Will any of these current show offer us that? Families argue and are petty towards each othrr, so deeppppl. Its like americans have never experienced a story about royal court intrigue, my mom watch that poo poo all the time, so i guess thats why i have no interest. Its always the 3rd prince. Femur fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Nov 25, 2019 |
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 17:53
|
|
|
Henchman of Santa posted:Succession has fewer viewers than the Internet makes it seem because every single media person happens to watch it but it’s extremely good. The Ringer is also obligated to write 8,000 pieces per season about every Sunday night HBO show. Once again the wrong HBO show that premiered at the same time is getting the rub (first it was Boardwalk Empire losing to GoT, now its media people not caring about The Righteous Gemstones as much as Succession because they feel seen by the latter), and this is not good at all.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 18:49
|
|
|
Troy Queef posted:Once again the wrong HBO show that premiered at the same time is getting the rub (first it was Boardwalk Empire losing to GoT, now it’s media people not caring about The Righteous Gemstones as much as Succession because they “feel seen” by the latter), and this is not good at all. Succession premiered last year, it just leveled up this season. Also both shows have a lot of parallels, oddly enough.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2019 19:23
|
|
|
Whats that? Someone was worried The Ringer wasnt producing enough embarrassing Righteous Gemstones content? https://twitter.com/ringer/status/1199178576379011073?s=21
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 05:17
|
|
|
MourningView posted:Being aspirational rich person porn was like the only point of Entourage though. It wanted you to think those people were cool and root for them. There's some element of "look at this awesome rich person poo poo" to Succession but they usually try to undercut it somehow and ultimately you're not supposed to be identifying with or rooting for the people in it, you're supposed to think they're awful. What I came to appreciate about entourage was that the characters easily solved any problem presented. It was a show about smooth sailing with no conflict to be seen
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 11:42
|
|
|
Dejan Bimble posted:What I came to appreciate about entourage was that the characters easily solved any problem presented. It was a show about smooth sailing with no conflict to be seen vinnys gotta do the movie! im not gonna do the movie! oh no, vinnies not gonna do the movie! fine, alright, ill do the movie! vinnys gonna do the movie! [vinnie does the movie and that annoying janes addiction song plays]
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 12:53
|
|
|
I remember during one of his In the Year 2000 bits, Conan joked Entourage will take a dark turn, with an episode where things only turn out mostly awesome for the guys.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 15:00
|
|
|
Declan MacManus posted:vinnys gotta do the movie! im not gonna do the movie! oh no, vinnies not gonna do the movie! fine, alright, ill do the movie! vinnys gonna do the movie! [vinnie does the movie and that annoying janes addiction song plays] Ohhhhhh YEAAAA... YEAA YEAAAAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXyJnUNj1rs The show they seemingly tried to replace the "Hey targeting every show to 35 year old women is costing us the male demographic" Ballers, is such a piece of poo poo that it's incredible. You get the same instant conflict resolution but with the Rock playing a charisma free straight man and old bald head making sad businessman jokes that are never funny. I just don't understand any of it. The rock is entertaining when he's a jovial bully, it's very hard to take a 300 pound man with 3% body fat seriously, it's like Rich Piana videos with dignity cranked up from 1 to 10
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 15:06
|
|
|
All i know about Ballers is that Elizabeth Warren and her husband watch it religiously
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 15:06
|
|
|
I hate watched most of Ballers because at the time I just needed to have something on in the background when I was doing other work . It may be one of the trashiest shows I've ever seen with some of the worst acting on TV. It does this cringy thing that Entourage did where it tries to seem cool by having a "celebrity" cameo but because the celebrity isn't actually well known outside of certain fanbases they have to spend 90 seconds explaining why they are important. "Hey, I'm (insert random running back) nice to meet you" (random running back)?! Didn't you lead the league in rushing last year with over 10 TDS?! You were the heart and soul of the (team)'s offense. What a cool party, even (random football guy) is here!
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 15:45
|
|
|
Tweets like this really make me miss Deadspin. https://twitter.com/aubrey_huff/status/1199200986658553857?s=20
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 16:52
|
|
|
BWV posted:I hate watched most of Ballers because at the time I just needed to have something on in the background when I was doing other work . It may be one of the trashiest shows I've ever seen with some of the worst acting on TV. It does this cringy thing that Entourage did where it tries to seem cool by having a "celebrity" cameo but because the celebrity isn't actually well known outside of certain fanbases they have to spend 90 seconds explaining why they are important. All pro linebacker Brian Orakpo.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 16:53
|
|
|
BWV posted:"Hey, I'm (insert random running back) nice to meet you" "HOLY poo poo!" "What man?" "IS THAT- NO WAY" "What the hell is wrong with you man?" "RAE CARRUTH I'M YOUR BIGGEST FAN!"
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:12
|
|
|
DildenAnders posted:I wish they would have the stones to have other, uh "celebrity" NFL players as cameos. The Ballers-Oz crossover event we've all been waiting for.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:17
|
|
|
This seems like a good time to throw out my sincere belief that the last 2-3 seasons of The League were among the worst television ever made, certainly the worst that I watched weekly.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:28
|
|
|
Bip Roberts posted:All pro linebacker Brian Orakpo. YOU ARE BRIAN ORAKPO
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:28
|
|
|
Made In America was the best version of Entourage/Ballers and it was killed way too soon.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:31
|
|
|
General Dog posted:This seems like a good time to throw out my sincere belief that the last 2-3 seasons of The League were among the worst television ever made, certainly the worst that I watched weekly. It is wild how talent packed that show was for something not good. Mark Duplass, Nick Kroll, Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas. Oh yeah and that guy who lied about 9/11.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:31
|
|
|
Blast Fantasto posted:It is wild how talent packed that show was for something not good. Mark Duplass, Nick Kroll, Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas. I think it was funny enough for a few years there, but it's like once the writers had come up with 20 jokes they said "well, that should be enough to last us several more years" and they just kept going back to the same wells over and over again. The League felt like it existed in the same universe as all Budweiser ads.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 17:49
|
|
|
Mahoning posted:Tweets like this really make me miss Deadspin. Why do they need guns under socialism? I've never understood that point. Do they think random heavily armed gangs are going to be roving around stealing poo poo and killing people? Will the anti-socialists just end up shooting each other/ innocents thus proving the need for free health care??
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 19:11
|
|
|
ilmucche posted:Why do they need guns under socialism? I've never understood that point. Do they think random heavily armed gangs are going to be roving around stealing poo poo and killing people? I assume in their logic : Socialism = Communism = Unamerican and only the ammo box can save the country from these things (since they aren't considered people)
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 19:21
|
|
|
ilmucche posted:Why do they need guns under socialism? I've never understood that point. Do they think random heavily armed gangs are going to be roving around stealing poo poo and killing people? yeah that first one, looks like. https://twitter.com/aubrey_huff/status/1199202907104526337
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 19:29
|
|
|
Aye Doc posted:yeah that first one, looks like. Poor Aubrey got so het up he didn't realize he transposed the last two words of his tweet.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2019 22:47
|
|
|
If you're not a Hockey Thread Person, exhibit #3495 of Why We Need Deadspin is that currently the hockey old boys club is disintegrating. It started when Maple Leafs coach Mike Babcock got fired shortly after the Leafs lost yet another game, in part due to this insane save: https://images.app.goo.gl/FG3EEaReaDPuzogw6 Now, normally when a coach gets fired the team looks like they're at a funeral for a while. The Leafs responded by basically saying 'gently caress it, hockey is fun again' and winning. Nobody has come forward to say what a great coach Babcock was, and in fact a whole bunch of stories of what a sour rear end in a top hat he is have been coming out. But! Former player Akim Aliu disclosed that one of Babcock's proteges, Bill Peters, is not only a sour rear end in a top hat but a racist one! https://twitter.com/Dreamer_Aliu78/status/1199119380774359045?s=19 Peters is 'being investigated' by the Calgary Flames, so that's likely two head coaches down. The Athletic is doing some OK reporting on this, but it could use Petchesky snarking about hockey. And also! Reformed Hockey rear end in a top hat Daniel Carcillo is now spilling dirt on the Sutters, a family of Alberta rednecks who are hockey royalty: https://twitter.com/CarBombBoom13/status/1199497677802749953?s=19 And I'm reduced to trawling Twitter to find out how hockey is finally purging itself of the good old boys that have plagued it for too long.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 06:05
|
|
|
Why did I have to find this thread on my own? The last few weeks are freaking me out as far as how we keep seeing obvious Deadspin stories one after the other.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 08:46
|
|
|
davidbix posted:Why did I have to find this thread on my own? i am bereft at the lack of papa john deadspin articles
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 14:51
|
|
|
Aubrey Huff is pretty proud of some awful shot grouping. If he was using a rifle and wasn't at least 200 yards away (lol, he definitely wasn't), he's a loving terrible shot.General Dog posted:I think it was funny enough for a few years there, but it's like once the writers had come up with 20 jokes they said "well, that should be enough to last us several more years" and they just kept going back to the same wells over and over again. It was really good for a couple seasons. I didn't follow it past season 3ish, though, and it sounds like I got out at the right time.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 15:20
|
|
|
That target was for Huffs kids based on the tweet. Bad shot grouping there is a good thing because it increases the chances theyll accidentally shoot their father one day.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 15:34
|
|
|
sportsgenius86 posted:That target was for Huffs kids based on the tweet. Bad shot grouping there is a good thing because it increases the chances theyll accidentally shoot their father one day. Oh, didn't catch that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 15:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 09:06 |
|
|
ilmucche posted:Why do they need guns under socialism? I've never understood that point. Do they think random heavily armed gangs are going to be roving around stealing poo poo and killing people? https://pando.com/2015/06/26/brief-history-american-gun-nuts/ Here's a good article Mark Ames wrote about it a few years back
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2019 15:57
|
|