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The alternative to the BBC making telly isn't 'no more telly', it's Murdoch and co making telly. Also the BBC have produced some great stuff over the years. Just steer clear of BBC 1 if you don't like the popular stuff. Micro Men (which I think has been mentioned in this thread before) and the Chernobyl docudrama starring Ade Edmonson, both available on YouTube, for a couple of examples. I get the hatred at BBC News but the light entertainment stuff is just that, let people enjoy things they like. Also Doctor Who is great. Edit: Class 373 is the TOPS designation for the original Eurostar TGV derived trains, now gradually being replaced with more boring Siemens units. Plank Sanction fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Guavanaut posted:Stopped reading after the complete misunderstanding of infrastructure investment and "do not remember how deeply we got the nation in debt the last time our party was in power". You missed the best part. Corbyn is gonna nationalise Amazon and run it out of his house, then sue Santa for tax evasion and  the weather.
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Without the BBC we wouldn't have Newswipe. Makes u think.
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OzyMandrill posted:Edit: Bad snipe... This is what the socialists mean when they say they want to nationalise the trains! 
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The only thing in the BBC that really needs to be burnt down and rebuilt from the ground up is the political reporting department.
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Plank Sanction posted:the Chernobyl docudrama starring Ade Edmonson 
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WHERE'S THE MAGIC TREE TREE JEREMY?  JUST ANOTHER IRRESPONSIBLE LABOUR POLICY THAT WILL ONLY BENEFIT THE SQUIRRELS! 
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Nov 28, 2019 12:19
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gh0stpinballa posted:i always wanted a dog like that growing up and i recorded the theme tune on my talk boy gadget cos i loved it so much When I get home I am going to now have to watch Due South. I even liked new ray and the explanation given for why there was a new ray! One of my most favourite episodes was the one in series 3 (it was split into 3 and 4 in the states) when they find that body walled in in the interrogation room and they have to prove Old Ray did not do it without ever being able to contact old ray. Good of them to not ignore a change in cast in a great way. My brother used to watch it with me and his favourite was goofy constable Turnbull!  Ahhhh. I love, love, love this show
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CyberPingu posted:Toby is going to need a ladder soon to get out of that hole. If his wife isn't there to help him he will lay it sideways and then when climbing it doesn't work, try to have sex with it.
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I see that Owl is on another "the only good culture is what I deem culture" one. Sorry mate, I hate to inform you but people are allowed to like things.
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Nov 28, 2019 12:26
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The BBC/HBO cooperation on His Dark Materials alone is worth its weight in gold.
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Purple Prince posted:Also imo a lack of financial education. I went to school during the New Labour era and there was literally nothing about finance through my entire school life unless you took the Business Studies GCSE. Bad phrasing on my part, it's the tech companies that believe Millenials and Gen Z loving love not owning stuff.
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Rarity posted:I see that Owl is on another "the only good culture is what I deem culture" one. Sorry mate, I hate to inform you but people are allowed to like things. I don't really think it's correct to suggest that you can't critically examine the messages contained within culture and the forms in which it's presented, and I'm surprised that you would suggest it.
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Junior G-man posted:The BBC/HBO cooperation on His Dark Materials alone is worth its weight in gold. So virtually nothing, then?
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As long as the high fantasy has British accents and not degenerate American ones I am fine with it being schlocky.  Did love the books as a child tho so I fully support HDM getting this treatment and not that golden compass bullshit.
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VideoGames posted:When I get home I am going to now have to watch Due South. I even liked new ray and the explanation given for why there was a new ray! One of my most favourite episodes was the one in series 3 (it was split into 3 and 4 in the states) when they find that body walled in in the interrogation room and they have to prove Old Ray did not do it without ever being able to contact old ray. Good of them to not ignore a change in cast in a great way. oh god i'm getting intense nostalgia now, i need to watch it tonight
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Basically fire everyone in news and start from scratch. It's all poo poo. e.g. this is the story they have about tree planting: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50578207 quote:General election 2019: Labour promises to plant two billion trees by 2040 A cynic might suggest that giving the Labour target over 20 years whilst giving the Tory and Lib dem targets as annual targets, whilst quoting FOTE saying it's the most ambitious, is a deliberate attempt to imply LABOUR WANT THE WHOLE COUNTRY TO BE MADE OF TREES. That it's unreasonable and EXTREME. Policies don't always map directly (Tories/LD might scale up tree planting in later manifestos or something), but at least breaking down Labour's plans to a per-year planting (100mil per year, which is in line with the Tories/LD) would be an honest comparator. They clearly don't want the public to realise how reasonable and inline with the other parties this policy is. I'm so loving sick of this. I hate that they keep getting away with this and even if we get a Labour government none of these rats will ever suffer beyond losing their jobs at worst, and slithering off to do PR for some city firm. e: Donated more money to the party. I'm a trashbag who doesn't have any free time or energy to canvass. Massive respect to those of you who have gone out canvassing/leafleting/pushing the message winegums fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:oh god i'm getting intense nostalgia now, i need to watch it tonight  
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Nov 28, 2019 12:38
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anyone with a copy that can share it with us? https://twitter.com/SolHughesWriter/status/1200015207382372352?s=20
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Nov 28, 2019 12:40
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OwlFancier posted:I don't really think it's correct to suggest that you can't critically examine the messages contained within culture and the forms in which it's presented, and I'm surprised that you would suggest it. Sure but your posts come across as way more just looking down and judging people by the forms of entertainment they enjoy.
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Nov 28, 2019 12:43
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apparently sky just cut away from corbyn's environment manifesto launch because he brought up the trade deal again. That one which included specific things like no mention of climate change
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Nov 28, 2019 12:43
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OwlFancier posted:I'm going to suggest that some forms of entertainment are objectively better than others, forms which inherently serve to glorify godawful celebrity culture are bad, and should be thrown in the ditch along with their participants. I agree. Our broadcast TV shouldn't glorify capitalism and the status quo. I reckon non-bootlicking versions of these shows could be made if we put our minds to it 
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Nov 28, 2019 12:44
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 *points at passing house* poo poo
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Tesseraction posted:
look at that guy, hes venting his heat everywhere. SHAME! SHAME!
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Nov 28, 2019 12:46
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Surely a reality show like Stricly Come Gulaging would be great?
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Tesseraction posted:
Only two systems under a Corbyn government - nationalised, or poo poo. Nice and simple!
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OwlFancier posted:I don't really think it's correct to suggest that you can't critically examine the messages contained within culture and the forms in which it's presented, and I'm surprised that you would suggest it. You can, but you dont have to be an elitist prick about it tbh.
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Tesseraction posted:
The Sun headline tomorrow: "Loony Labour Lefties Disrespect Proud UK Spelling Rules and Insult Homeowners"
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Jose posted:anyone with a copy that can share it with us? I just cracked the issue this morning. I'll post a pic when I see it if nobody beats me to it.
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Mega Comrade posted:Sure but your posts come across as way more just looking down and judging people by the forms of entertainment they enjoy. I'm fairly incredulous that anyone with a half functioning political brain would suggest that those forms of entertainment are important. Because I do expect people to be capable of that sort of critical analysis ITT. And while I'm sure you can, of course, turn your brain off and watch something anyway, if you have to do that it's a point against the thing you're watching because the easier form of that is simply uncritically accepting the messages presented, which is what the majority of consumers will do with any popular medium. If you personally want to watch trash I'm not gonna stop you but I am going to take issue with the suggestions that we need trash or that trash is actually good. And also that there isn't anything wrong with a lot of people uncritically accepting the premises of trash TV as if it doesn't have any effect on how people think. That's literally the same dumb argument that gamergaters make in response to criticism of the medium.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't really think it's correct to suggest that you can't critically examine the messages contained within culture and the forms in which it's presented, and I'm surprised that you would suggest it. There's a huge difference between saying Strictly is boomer wank fodder and scrapping every single thing produced across the entire BBC umbrella
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The BBC's stuff for kids is really, really awesome. Possibly the only awesome thing for kids on TV although I've heard Storybots on Netflix is good. Please don't take it away tyvm.
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Tesseraction posted:
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Jedit posted:I just cracked the issue this morning. I'll post a pic when I see it if nobody beats me to it. It's on the like second/third page of actual news after all the adverts.
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Jose posted:apparently sky just cut away from corbyn's environment manifesto launch because he brought up the trade deal again. That one which included specific things like no mention of climate change What's more, when they cut out they went to the sky election splash screen, which is just THE BREXIT ELECTION in big letters. Obey the sad stomach mouth.
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Guavanaut posted:New Tory manifesto policy? I thought they'd told JRM to stay quiet. Rees-Mogg continued: "And why aren't rape victims smart enough to run away? I would."  Hearing this, Andrew Bridgen immediately called in to the show to breathlessly exclaim: "I agree! Jacob is far too smart to be turned into a bum boy!"
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VideoGames posted:No shock here! Due South is wonderful and I adore it and it is so earnest that it makes me mad it is so tough to get legit copies of. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Due-South-Complete-DVD-18-Disc-Set/312856332736?hash=item48d7b0c9c0:g:99YAAOSwFEhd17C6 £31 doesn't seem too bad?
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Soooo just did a leafletting for Labour. Nobody skinned me and wore me as a coat! Though one old bloke did come out and say not to deliver any more of those please. Think I got my route a bit wrong though so some people might have gotten Double Socialism 
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Tesseraction posted:It's on the like second/third page of actual news after all the adverts. Yeah, found it. Unfortunately the imgur app is loving poo poo and I can't get share links for anything I post. Fake edit: but the app does have direct posting functionality. It may be sideways, apologies if so. 
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