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They should just use saran wrap like they do in The Naked Gun.
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Beachcomber posted:How'd they handle Rogue's powers? At first Beast made her a necklace that was a power dampener but it was apparently a literal pain to wear. Then after an a couple of adventures, Rogue gained greater control of her powers plus Beast remade the power dampener as a bracelet which wasn't a pain. So that's that.
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It should be noted that Rogue is currently a statue.
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Pizza dog and Jonathan
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Skwirl posted:It should be noted that Rogue is currently a statue.
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Alhazred posted:A thing that can happen if you let Beast "help" you Could be worse. Could have had Reed Richards "help" her.
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Rhyno posted:That didn't actually happen. Emma Frost made an accusation about it. Kitty explicitly banned him from being alone with her.
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The X-Men has had multiple versions of Cyclops' son as a member, each from a different version of Jean Grey. I think they are well aware that leaving Cyclops alone with a version of Jean Grey will just lead to another one, and I don't blame them for wanting to take countermeasures. Maybe he ought to get the snip, to be on the safe side?
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LashLightning posted:The X-Men has had multiple versions of Cyclops' son as a member, each from a different version of Jean Grey. I think they are well aware that leaving Cyclops alone with a version of Jean Grey will just lead to another one, and I don't blame them for wanting to take countermeasures. One of those versions was a test tube baby clone created by Sinister. That Scott didn't even meet Jean until like 10 minutes before they both died.
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Rhyno posted:One of those versions was a test tube baby clone created by Sinister. That Scott didn't even meet Jean until like 10 minutes before they both died. Mr Sinister is just the most unbearable shipper.
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Alhazred posted:The X-Men is basically creep cenyral. The moment young Jean entered old Cyclops started to hit on her for example. This is not at all how I remember it going, but I haven't read that run in years. I recall the old and young team briefly fighting right when All-New began, and then, a few issues later Scott showing up to talk up his new team, at which point he did sort of address Young Jean by just telling her she should go back to her own timeline, more or less. IIRC the two teams were pretty separate at the time since he was widely blamed for killing Xavier, so there wasn't a ton of overlap. Do you have an issue number? How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Much as I hate Cyclops, I appreciate that he takes Kitty seriously, if only because her power means his eyebeams from the punch dimension don't mean dick so he can't just optic blast til he gets his way. This is where someone tells me there's some bullshit about his blasts getting through her intangibility
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Much as I hate Cyclops, I appreciate that he takes Kitty seriously, if only because her power means his eyebeams from the punch dimension don't mean dick so he can't just optic blast til he gets his way. Cyclops could zap her if she wasn't expecting it easily enough, but apart from that I don't think there's any way he could hurt her. Kitty's one of the most dangerous mutants there is on a physical level. It's why Logan respects her so much - she's one of the very few people who could permanently kill him.
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In addition to her powers making her invulnerable she's also a ninja.
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She's also a pirate now.
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Synthbuttrange posted:She's also a pirate now. A drunk pirate with tattoos, and the Red Queen of the Hellfire Club. I'm not sure if this is an endorsement or an indictment of Wolverine's mentorship abilities.
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Porque no los dos?
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Depending on the story, either Cyclops would bank a shot to hit Kate in the back when she’s not expecting it, or she’d phase his visor off his head, leaving him functionally blind.
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Also they were, y'know, colleagues and fellow soldiers. I don't think the respect has anything to do with who could beat the other.
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I dug these issues out because I was curious. This was a bad plot and I think "a grown man's tragically lost ex manifests before him as a teenager"/"a teenager is pulled into the future and told that the gawky guy she goes to school with will grow up to be both a radical and her ex-husband" was also destined to be a bad narrative road to go down, but this feels like him actively not hitting on her? The previous page shows her reaching out for his hand which is why he flinches away. But yeah Kitty is entirely right to tell him not to go in there, I feel like the only reason he even does is so this specific scene can be contrived. The context is that he hears her scream in the night and goes to knock on the door and check in on her, which is fine, but then he just moseys on in. It's like they needed this scene to happen and wanted there to be some weird frisson between them and realized "we're 26 issues into this, let's just make it happen." To be fair there is a deeply creepy scene earlier in All-New I found where Beast is ogling young Jean and thinking how beautiful she is, which is how she deduces that young Hank is also in love with her. I don't know why she was reading old Hank's mind and not young Hank's to begin with but whatever. It's a gross scene. You can check it out in All-New X-Men #15 if you really want to, an otherwise really lovely issue with great David Lafuente pencils. Anyway I think Wolverine respects Kitty Pryde because she's smart and idealistic in a way that doesn't remind him of herself, and he likes being able to mentor someone who sees him as a real source of experience and insight instead of just an unstable rear end in a top hat. I think most of the reason writers keep putting him in mentor positions with young characters-- and why his stint as a teacher made sense and was fun-- is because it allows him to reframe the hard-knock life he led as a source of wisdom, and gives him a chance to use the mistakes he made as a way to help people who are still young and ambitious but maybe a little reckless (Kitty, Jubilee, Quentin Quire-- I don't know enough about Armor to say one way or the other if this makes sense for her). I definitely don't think "who can beat up who" plays into it very much at all? I think Claremont deciding to gradually shift him from a real erratic loner to someone who wants to or finds himself surprisingly adept at mentoring and teaching was one of his best decisions. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Jedit posted:Cyclops could zap her if she wasn't expecting it easily enough, but apart from that I don't think there's any way he could hurt her. Kitty's one of the most dangerous mutants there is on a physical level. It's why Logan respects her so much - she's one of the very few people who could permanently kill him.
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Archyduchess posted:I dug these issues out because I was curious. It's also why he and Spider-Man make a good duo
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drrockso20 posted:It's also why he and Spider-Man make a good duo Yeah for sure. And just like Jubilee and Quire he's also not afraid to push back on Logan's machismo and force him to lighten up.
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I'm grateful that no matter how bad X-Men has gotten, nobody has had Logan try to get frisky with any of his proteges/students Just because dude already has a lot to answer for
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Reminder that Astonishing Spider-Man and Wolverine was a really fun book. Doom the Living Planet was only topped by the mash ups from the future Thor timeline. 
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Wolverine using his history of mistakes and bad decisions as a way to help people around him avoid making those same mistakes is one of my favorite things about the character. The idea that someone who's suffered can use that suffering to move on and help people is powerful.
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wiegieman posted:Wolverine using his history of mistakes and bad decisions as a way to help people around him avoid making those same mistakes is one of my favorite things about the character. The idea that someone who's suffered can use that suffering to move on and help people is powerful. One of my favorites runs was Old Man Logan (and the finale of series which they renamed Dead Man Logan). Just filled with regret and trying to find closure and some measure of grace to the poo poo sandwich that was his life.
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Wolverine's involvement with the X-men strikes me as stemming from a desire for the world to never produce (or need) another Wolverine.
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Lurdiak posted:Wolverine's involvement with the X-men strikes me as stemming from a desire for the world to never produce (or need) another Wolverine. Well, much like Jean Greys there never seems to be shortage of Wolverines.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm grateful that no matter how bad X-Men has gotten, nobody has had Logan try to get frisky with any of his proteges/students He sleeps with a teenager Jean Grey in like the first arc of Ultimate X-Men.
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Skwirl posted:He sleeps with a teenager Jean Grey in like the first arc of Ultimate X-Men. ultimate anything doesn't count and you know it
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Alaois posted:ultimate anything doesn't count and you know it 
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I mean, the Maker, James Howlett Jr and Miles Morales all crossed over. Most of it doesn't seem to count for now, but it only doesn't count until it does. I do think Hickman is very unlikely to make an alternate universe version of Wolverine sleeping with a teenage version of Jean Grey a major part of current X-Men.
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It's also implied he tried to bone Mary Jane when he got body swapped with Peter. Ultimate Wolverine was a fuckin creep.
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Bituva reason why no one was particularly surprised when Parker threw him out a penthouse window, I'm sensing
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Lurdiak posted:Wolverine's involvement with the X-men strikes me as stemming from a desire for the world to never produce (or need) another Wolverine. And when the world got one, she ruled, so it was ok.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm grateful that no matter how bad X-Men has gotten, nobody has had Logan try to get frisky with any of his proteges/students Reminds me of that weird hinted at relationship he had with Squirrel Girl that eventually got retconned into something else entirely Malachite_Dragon posted:Bituva reason why no one was particularly surprised when Parker threw him out a penthouse window, I'm sensing On the one hand that moment was hilarious, but on the other it felt kinda out of character for Logan
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drrockso20 posted:Reminds me of that weird hinted at relationship he had with Squirrel Girl that eventually got retconned into something else entirely Doreen absolutely broke his heart into a million pieces and no one can convince me otherwise.
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SonicRulez posted:And when the world got one, she ruled, so it was ok. She didn't need to be Wolverine tho. She could have been her own thing.
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