CGI Stardust posted:

if it's any consolation / confirmation, from a brief camouflaged chat to one of their activists / support staff, the Tories have no idea what the result will be either

xtothez posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1200392208823836674

Aphex- posted:

I mean it didn't stop trump winning to be fair

Jel Shaker posted:

The news cycle has already moved on from the Labour antisemitism and , partially from criticism of labours policies, to just attacking boris all the time because of the indefensible and reprehensible poo poo he’s been saying over the years lol

OwlFancier posted:

I guess at least the british holocaust train will be late and/or canceled quite often.

Gaemblor posted:

Finally getting off my arse and going canvassing for the first time ever tonight. Have no idea what i'm doing so does anyone have any tips or advice for door knocking? cheers!

Jo Swinson under scrutiny for election campaign posted:

Lib Dem leader faces questions already as party’s poll numbers slip
[...]
One thing is certain: no one in the Lib Dems is anticipating a result on 12 December anywhere close to the heady predictions of the party conference in September, where passing MPs would routinely speak of winning 80 or 100 seats.

Polls at the time of up to 23% have gradually slipped back to 20% and now 15%, a level which would see the Lib Dems potentially struggle to maintain even the 20 seats with which they ended the last parliament.
[...]
What is also clear is that Swinson’s tactics and style of leadership are coming under scrutiny, and that a bad election night will prompt disquiet, especially given the party is, as one source put it, “flush with remainer cash – six-figure donations are not uncommon”.

Some of this money has gone on a pair of bright orange battlebuses – one is electric, used for shorter campaign trips – both featuring huge images of the leader and the words, “Jo Swinson’s Liberal Democrats”.

This focus on a figurehead who only took over in July has raised some eyebrows. One source said: “It feels like she’s running a presidential campaign when no one really knows her.”

Adding to the worries are polls indicating that even when voters do see more of Swinson they are unconvinced by her. One survey said her “unfavourable” rating among voters had risen nine percentage points in a week.

Insiders say the notion of Swinson becoming PM was not entirely a ruse, with her team being keen fans of Building the Orange Wave, a book chronicling how Canada’s New Democratic Party rose from fourth to second place in a single election.

It has, nonetheless, been quietly dropped from party messaging. Speaking to the Guardian in Cheltenham, Swinson accepted the need to now push the message on tactical voting.
[...]
One potential hiccup in harvesting anti-Brexit votes has been Swinson’s decision to harden her party’s remain stance with the pledge to unilaterally cancel Brexit if the Lib Dems somehow win an absolute majority in parliament.

The plan was unveiled shortly before the party’s conference and was then, some Lib Dems complain, “bounced through” by the new leadership despite members’ reservations.

Intended to outflank Labour’s offer of a referendum it has attracted criticism, not least during Swinson’s bruising half hour last week on the BBC’s Question Time leaders’ event, seen as the nadir of the party campaign so far.

Some Lib Dems, however, insist the issue has not particularly resonated with voters. “Those who do mention it understand that it’s basically a stunt, and we’re not going to win an election,” one Lib Dem candidate said.
[...]
It will, of course, intensify if 12 December goes badly. “If she doesn’t get more than the 20 seats they had before, and lose all the defectors, there will be questions asked – including from donors,” one source said. “They might want to know why, when they’ve written six-figure cheques, they end up with only a couple of percent more than Tim Farron managed.”

Nice piece of fish posted:

Well obviously you don't want to go to sweden because they put pickled red onion and dill on everything and if you go to finland you'll never have a normal conversation face to face again.

Meanwhile, Norway has absolutely stellar fish and chips (as we're all about quality fish and potatoes), robust socialism (so far), a recent explosion in craft beers in terms of quality and selection, all the nature you could possibly want (seen my cabin thread?) and you can afford it all on a norwegian wage.

Incidentally, you'd be popular. Even our racists consider english-speakers "the good ones". All you'd need is booze and you'd make friends.

Just my 0,02 NOK on the subject.

VideoGames posted:

(I have this strange thing where I am constantly warm and like to wear as few clothes as possible - once went up a mountain in shorts and a t shirt and it felt glorious!) I love cold weather so much.

Angepain posted:

and which politician in this country wants to improve the train services, huh!!! wonder why!!!! not efficient enough for your plans, is it, jeremy!!! debate me

escapegoat posted:

What chance is there for an unskilled person to emigrate, assuming brexit happens?

Braggart posted:

Excellent number for when the tweet was made too.

As an autistic person I approve


(Seriously whenever I look at a clock at 12:34 I sit up and pay attention, then chuckle at myself )

Guavanaut posted:

an_mutt posted:

- in 2016 the media was much more favourable to Hillary, and their treatment of Trump was nothing more than 'look at this clown'. Only, they would air large chunks of Trump's campaign rallies on news channels completely unedited and without critical analysis after the fact, merely pointing to what was happening with "wow, what a crazy person! And now on to Hillary whipping the nae nae" and giving fascist rhetoric free, lengthy, and unchallenged platforms. They would basically air 45 minute-long Trump campaign ads that contained the broadly correct message of "this country loving sucks, you should elect someone to make it better", and Hillary looked less like the candidate that would do so. Once the prospect of a Trump presidency started to become more of a reality, the tone shifted from "look at this clown" to "look at this racist, sexist pig!", which absolutely will never cut through to an electorate that was willing to listen to Trump's fash rhetoric in the first place. Notably, we seem to be in the "he's racist/sexist!!" stage with Johnson at the moment, with a little added "he's a melt/coward" thrown in. The difference here is that in Trump's largely unchallenged coverage, he was able to get out the seemingly middle-class-sympathetic message of bringing back jobs and making America Great Again, which, when compared to Hillary's utterly vapid "go on to Hillary dot com to see my policies!" approach, appealed more to the American middle class.

Pesky Splinter posted:

If the Libdems manage to completely gently caress themselves this election.

coffeetable posted:

because it's a dumb idea but no-one wants to call well-intentioned people dumb until you forced the issue. the corbyn antisemitism thing has not become this big of a thing through lack of rebuttals

also because any forum selects heavily for people who want to talk rather than do. sometimes it feels like one step up from putting a semi-transparent flag on your facebook profile pic, but that's what open forums are for.

BalloonFish posted:

In 2008 I went to a classic car show in Paris where there was an official Volkswagen Heritage stand, which had a timeline running around and between all the exhibits...which began in 1946 when "Volkswagen began production of a simple, reliable, economy car to meet the demands of war-torn Germany." Not literally untrue but there's a lot of context missing there!

Next door was the Skoda stand with a similar timeline which went something like "1934: Skoda unveils the V8 Superb, widely seen as one of Europe's premier luxury saloons [big gap] 1989: Skoda Auto is purchased by Volkswagen AG"

OwlFancier posted:

Which is a shame because if the skoda factory in occupied czechoslovakia worked like some of the other occupied czech factories then it presents a very funny mental image of workers smuggling out entire cars under their coats to supply to the resistance

escapegoat posted:

What chance is there for an unskilled person to emigrate, assuming brexit happens?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

See that joke about the old man, the border guard and the wheelbarrows.

RockyB posted:

12:21 is clearly far superior

quote:

Also please stop simulating our train network.

RockyB posted:

12:21 is clearly far superior

Braggart posted:

I like that number too, but the numerals themselves are not symetrical so the whole thing can't be truly symetrical

OwlFancier posted:

13:37 highly agreeable.

Nice piece of fish posted:

Well obviously you don't want to go to sweden because they put pickled red onion and dill on everything and if you go to finland you'll never have a normal conversation face to face again.

Meanwhile, Norway has absolutely stellar fish and chips (as we're all about quality fish and potatoes), robust socialism (so far), a recent explosion in craft beers in terms of quality and selection, all the nature you could possibly want (seen my cabin thread?) and you can afford it all on a norwegian wage.

Incidentally, you'd be popular. Even our racists consider english-speakers "the good ones". All you'd need is booze and you'd make friends.

Just my 0,02 NOK on the subject.

biglads posted:

I have relatives in Norway and it is a nice place but all but one of my Norwegian relatives have got increasingly fashy recently.

My Mum had a massive row with my Aunt re:Brexit when she was over there recently along the lines of

Aunt : I can't believe you can't wait to get out (of the EU)
Mum : You haven't lived in the UK for 40 years so why is your opinion worth anything?

My youngest cousin is basically a neonazi 😞

If you like mountains and stuff, I'd recommend Slovenia as a bolt hole. It's lovely.

I'm actually going to Lithuania for a few days the morning after the election (it was booked before the election was announced). Wonder what my chances of claiming political asylum in the event of a tory majority is there...

Guavanaut posted:

Every clock in Braggarts house just flashes 00:00