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OzyMandrill posted:Wtf dude? The Criminal Law Act 1977 39.7 defines the offence of wearing a big coat what we don't like in a public place.
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willie_dee posted:When they are a threat. lol, you brought up your previous 'police should splatter moped thieves across their car bonnets' argument like it was something to be proud of.
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OwlFancier posted:If your cops have only two settings which is ignore people or murder them, perhaps your concept of justice needs looking into. How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? It’s firearms sadly.
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Darth Walrus posted:lol, you brought up your previous 'police should splatter moped thieves across their car bonnets' argument like it was something to be proud of. it was funny I was sitting here thinking "this dude sucks and I can't remember why"
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willie_dee posted:How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? There are literally no other options available. Shoot them all.
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willie_dee posted:How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? a taser? rubber bullets? sound cannons and water jets?
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Darth Walrus posted:lol, you brought up your previous 'police should splatter moped thieves across their car bonnets' argument like it was something to be proud of. What? Hardly. I got rinsed for it in here and it taught me a lot and gave me a point of view that I didn’t find any where else online at all. Stop reading and placing emotion into words that isn’t there you weirdo.
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willie_dee posted:How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? Simply expose your swords which have been carefully hidden inside your xxxxl imitation leather trench coat and talk the attacker down using logic showing there is no god. One simple tip from dozy depressed dipshits that the police don’t want you to know about!!!
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willie_dee posted:How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? The general public literally fought the guy on the bridge to the ground with weight of numbers before the cops showed up to wave their guns around. If you're going to have police maybe you could, I dunno, give them training and equipment so they can subdue a guy with a knife in some way other than murdering them?
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willie_dee posted:How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? this is wrong. the use of firearms in public places is wrong. Many other solutions exist; you could, for example, throw your billy club at'em. Or keep people away and wait the knife-holder out. Escalation of violence is cowardly. e: Bape Culture posted:Simply expose your swords which have been carefully hidden inside your xxxxl imitation leather trench coat and talk the attacker down using logic showing there is no god. One simple tip from dozy depressed dipshits that the police don’t want you to know about!!! Which side are you arguing, here? if you're cheerleading willie dee, you should gently caress off. If not, you should be less tongue-in-cheek. Superterranean fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Nov 29, 2019 |
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InflateableFerret posted:a taser? rubber bullets? sound cannons and water jets? Ah yes or how about some other magical martial art like Akido training and chakra magic. Give me a knife and give you all of those things and you try and arrest me. The risk to your life is significant. Rubber bullets and tasers very very often do not work. Or are you of the opinions we should be asking police officers to openly and willingly sacrifice their lives to arrest people that are trying to kill them?
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How can you possibly deal with a man with a knife other than by shooting him? https://twitter.com/GeorgeRobarts/status/1200445403839246336
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OwlFancier posted:The general public literally fought the guy on the bridge to the ground with weight of numbers before the cops showed up to wave their guns around. If you're going to have police maybe you could, I dunno, give them training and equipment so they can subdue a guy with a knife in some way other than murdering them? How many injured members of the public are there? How did that work out in the last attack?
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As an american I can tell you that the proliferation of guns and free reign for police to "defend themselves" has led to nothing but good things for my country
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gently caress OFF WITH YOUR GUN WANK YOU UTTER oval office
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willie_dee posted:Ah yes or how about some other magical martial art like Akido training and chakra magic. Escalation of violence is cowardly. the assumption that mY LIfe iS in MOrtaL daNGEr all the time is the reason ACAB.
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willie_dee posted:Ah yes or how about some other magical martial art like Akido training and chakra magic. Mate the police aren't going to gently caress you You've got to be in a left-wing activist group for that
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willie_dee posted:How else do you deal with someone with a knife who isn’t dropping it? Unfortunately it is when its an area of importance like central London. This isn't the first attack on the bridge, and the impetus is to stop whatever it is asap. Tasers, rubber bullets, whatever non-gun would be more moral and humane, but these are not a 100% that it will stop the attacker. Bullets do, and will be used.
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willie_dee posted:Or are you of the opinions we should be asking police officers to openly and willingly sacrifice their lives to arrest people that are trying to kill them? Yes??? This is supposed to by why we have to fellate the bastards at every opportunity. "thank u brave cops for showing up and gunning down a guy on the pavement that the general public had already fought to protect themselves from" doesn't really have the same ring to it.
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FiftySeven posted:
I wonder why these attackers are wearing fake suicide vests all of a sudden. Oh well, if we kill enough violent people I'm sure we can get rid of violence soon enough
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OzyMandrill posted:Wtf dude? He was pinned to the ground, then shot in the head, iirc it was because he was wearing a puffa jacket after 1998
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willie_dee posted:Ah yes or how about some other magical martial art like Akido training and chakra magic. 
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unwantedplatypus posted:As an american I can tell you that the proliferation of guns and free reign for police to "defend themselves" has led to nothing but good things for my country No ones arguing for free reign and guns to be the norm in every defence situation.
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happyhippy posted:Unfortunately it is when its an area of importance like central London. bullets aren't 100% either just fyi better start arming the police with flamethrowers straight out of Wolfenstein
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willie_dee posted:No ones arguing for free reign and guns to be the norm in every defence situation. Nobody argues for that in america either, and yet that's the reality of my country. Funny that What's funnier, we don't have people arguing for free reign and guns to be the norm in every defence situation, but we have a lot of people that make the exact same arguments you do!
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willie_dee posted:No ones arguing for free reign and guns to be the norm in every defence situation. You literally are arguing that if a cop feels their life is threatened we need to let them murder people. This provably leads to the police just murdering everyone because they believe their lives are always in danger.
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OwlFancier posted:Yes??? This is supposed to by why we have to fellate the bastards at every opportunity. "thank u brave cops for showing up and gunning down a guy on the pavement that the general public had already fought to protect themselves from" doesn't really have the same ring to it. How many people have been wounded? Considering it’s just been announced that the dude had an explosive suicide vest on this isn’t the hot take you think it is.
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Police in the UK are specifically trained and expected to arrest people with knives without shooting them. It's what stab vests, tasers, and truncheons are for. On the other hand, I don't blame someone for not wanting to play the 'is this a real or fake bomb vest' game when they're right inside the blast radius.
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Julio Cruz posted:bullets aren't 100% either just fyi the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a Mecha-Hitler is a good guy with a Mecha-Hitler
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Of course the police were justified in shooting this guy, he was in the middle of committing a terrorist attack. I can't believe there are people in this thread having a pop at the police barely minutes after they stopped a terrorist clearly aiming to kill random innocent people.
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Julio Cruz posted:bullets aren't 100% either just fyi The only way to stop a terrorist attack is to prevent it from happening in the first place, which is why its a sad necessity that we have to put individuals with high risk factors (such as having brown skin or left wing ideology) on special watch lists.
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Did I miss the story about how police are constantly being murdered with knives? Or is this the first knife attack to ever occur in London the police have dealt with?
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willie_dee posted:How many people have been wounded? TIL that steroid use causes lack of reading comprehension, in addition to bursts of aggression and testicular shrinkage
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The police didn't stop him, the random people on the bridge stopped him.
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FiftySeven posted:
Even if he wasn't wearing a vest they'd say they suspected he was since otherwise they just shot a man for no reason. Not that that's stopped the Met before but y'know.
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OwlFancier posted:You literally are arguing that if a cop feels their life is threatened we need to let them murder people. This provably leads to the police just murdering everyone because they believe their lives are always in danger. Where have I ever said “if a cop feels their life is threatened”?! Simply feeling threatened is not an excuse which is why it’s an absolute disgrace the cop that tasered the race relations Bristol guy in the face kept her job. I’ve said when someone has a knife.
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willie_dee posted:Or are you of the opinions we should be asking police officers to openly and willingly sacrifice their lives to arrest people that are trying to kill them? Yes? Police frequently us a shield as their symbol/badge. A shield is meant to take the blow to protect the person behind. If you have a shield that refuses to be put in danger, you have a pretty useless shield. Cops being more interested in protecting themselves is how you get massive abuses of power and a victimised citizenry
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