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Azza Bamboo posted:The reports are saying that yesterday's terrorist was released on licence as required by law. If asked about this law specifically, how should Labour respond? At a guess I would say that part of the problem is why would a person be released on Licence after 7 years into a 16 year sentence. And I would say if you look into it, the answer is probably down to over crowded prisons and lack of resources put into post release supervision. Break it down like this. If the courts jail people for small or medium crimes, the prisons have to make room for them. Which can mean a dangerous prisoner getting released early, to make room for someone jailed for serial shop lifting. Also here's an article about how most people jailed under the old law are still in custody. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/nov/10/ipp-sentencing-regime-in-england-and-wales-branded-deeply-harmful
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Going on my first canvassing session tomorrow. I’m in a safe Tory seat, so it should be interesting. At work yesterday however I did manage to convince a lifelong Labour supporter who was planning to vote Lib Dem (he doesn’t think Corbyn is strong or decisive and also doesn’t believe they’ll only tax the top 5%) to stick with Labour, so I feel like I’ve done some good. My wife also convinced a lady from our NCT class to go back to Labour - she was leaning Lib Dem due to perceived Labour weakness on Brexit.
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I get that the tinfoil hatness isnt the reality like, the points folk have made have helped me to shake off the suspicion. It makes sense that they are choosing these moments when you look at it that way.
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OwlFancier posted:Ours is on pause until this afternoon, check with the local campaign. Thanks for this, I was about to drop some leaflets this morning (which I've been doing all week) and hadn't checked my emails yet.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Can anyone recommend an odour neutralizer for the smell of stale cigs. I think the previous owner must have smoked in his bedroom and despite carpet shampoo etc, the smell lingers. Wasn't that noticeable before I bought the place, but I have very sensitive nose when it comes to cig stinks. Wash down the walls with soap and water and any and all soft surfaces with Febreze - really soak it in if you can (obviously after checking it won't react) and leave the windows open while it dries. If that doesn't work the nuclear option is to hire one of those proper carpet deep cleaners and chuck some white vinegar in with the cleaning solution they provide. This *will* leave the place smelling like a chippy for a couple of weeks though.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This *will* leave the place smelling like a chippy for a couple of weeks though. Hell I'd do this on purpose
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namesake posted:Door knocking is cancelled until 2 but some places are preparing leaflet and Christmas card drops. I'm in the one for FaBS but not Kingswood but I've not been checking Whatsapp ever since I had a mental health blip a couple of months back cause hundreds of messages had piled up. Except now it's thousands of messages that have piled up and the whole idea of looking at them is even more overwhelming 
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But like, what if the cocaine was part of an untraceable payment from MI5 to take part in the stunt and the guy got nervous once the regular plod went off script and shot the guy. Just saying.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This *will* leave the place smelling like a chippy for a couple of weeks though. I always put a little vinegar in with my washing because all cleaning fluids smell so vile. (Watch me get sanctioned for clearly working in a chippy somewhere)
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Nov 30, 2019 12:18
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Oh no, the thread has radicalised VideoGames! Also thanks for the replies this morning on the manifesto accessibility goons and goonettes, a very big help!
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Check out this dude with a narwhal tusk. Life is stranger than fiction. https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1200700395057758210
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I've got one of those about five feet to my left.
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OwlFancier posted:I've got one of those about five feet to my left. With anyone else I'd assume this was a joke post
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OwlFancier posted:I've got one of those about five feet to my left. Let the Polish chef go.
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Jippa posted:Check out this dude with a narwhal tusk. Life is stranger than fiction. Yeah sorry to bring back this whole debate but even if the cops didn't see this part of the attack this was not someone who had to be subdued with lethal force. Rarity posted:I'm in the one for FaBS but not Kingswood but I've not been checking Whatsapp ever since I had a mental health blip a couple of months back cause hundreds of messages had piled up. Except now it's thousands of messages that have piled up and the whole idea of looking at them is even more overwhelming Just remember 99.9% of the past messages are now just schedules for old dates and people messaging 'I'm here now, where is everyone?' Skip to the bottom guilt free! Get on discord and I'll message the meeting points for this afternoon (I can't go myself sadly). namesake fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:I've got one of those about five feet to my left. Why is there a Polish chef in your room?
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Barry Foster posted:With anyone else I'd assume this was a joke post Jedit posted:Why is there a Polish chef in your room? gh0stpinballa posted:lol yep, his family owned land in pakistan and he wanted to "build a terrorist training camp" on it. jfc these dickheads are so loving stupid. goddamnedtwisto posted:Wash down the walls with soap and water and any and all soft surfaces with Febreze
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OwlFancier posted:I've got one of those about five feet to my left. I've got one between my eyes. I do enjoy a nice midnight bacon sarnie.
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Oh dear me posted:I always put a little vinegar in with my washing because all cleaning fluids smell so vile. For most fabrics, and for most types of dirt, you can just use the vinegar instead of the detergent. It's how I wash my towels. curtains, sofa and cushion covers, etc - anything that just gets a bit musty and dusty rather than having actual stains etc on it. If I was less lazy I'd bother to actually properly sort my clothes and do them with it too, because it's a lot cheaper, but the allure of the "bizarre wash" is too strong for me. It's also a shitload better for the environment than detergents and also stops limescale building up in your washing machine.
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Jel Shaker posted:Think the judge on the case back in 2012 was Lord (Justice) Leveson too quote:Usman Khan, 20, and Nazam Hussain, 26, also from Stoke-on-Trent, were ordered to serve at least eight years. quote:In its judgement, the Court of Appeal said that it was replacing the IPPs with fixed terms and extended licences. The halfway point of the fixed terms - at which point the men are eligible for release on licence - matches the minimum the men would have originally served before they could seek to leave prison. exactly how he ended up released in dec 2018 is a mystery at the moment but i just woke up so time to dig e: the mystery is me forgetting they were arrested in dec 2010 so time served Wiggly Wayne DDS fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Barry Foster posted:With anyone else I'd assume this was a joke post It's about four feet below the stuffed crow. E: currently occupying a space on the sword rack.
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OwlFancier posted:It's about four feet below the stuffed crow. Every good household needs a sword rack. I have to settle for a machete rest and a niche by the front door for the spiked flail. (The swords have now been evicted from the ‘cupboard of tetanus’ and occupy a corner next to the chest of drawers)
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Flipswitch posted:Oh no, the thread has radicalised VideoGames!  I'm ok with this
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going to be a very normal weekend https://twitter.com/BBCNewsPR/status/1200744798476476416
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:going to be a very normal weekend Oh good, we'll be treated to an hour of fellating and unchallenged statements about how Boris is tough on crime/terror. Much better than empty chairing the oval office. There's literally no reason it has to be Marr interviewing him. He's clearly available for an interview, so bring in Neil and re-air it during the prime time slot. stev fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:going to be a very normal weekend Good and normal
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Does neill dislike boris for some reason? I'd have thought they'd get on well both being big gammony tory twats.
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OwlFancier posted:Does neill dislike boris for some reason? I'd have thought they'd get on well both being big gammony tory twats. No, absolutely not. Neil hired Boris to be Spectator editor back in the day. But there's this idea that Neil is a pitbull which just lol
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OwlFancier posted:What's a minor terrorist incident? It contains three semitones above the root, and a perfect fifth.
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Oodles posted:It contains three semitones above the root, and a perfect fifth. 
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forkboy84 posted:No, absolutely not. Neil hired Boris to be Spectator editor back in the day. But there's this idea that Neil is a pitbull which just lol Yeah it's ridiculous the idea that Neil would be hard on him. S Neil is the toriest man on telly
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Can I just say how nice it is to be in a thread full of people who are going out there and actively Doing Socialisms? (No disrespect to those that can't, for whatever reason). This place is like my local CLP only without the Blairites and it warms my heart.
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OwlFancier posted:What's a minor terrorist incident? what happens when someone calls Dennis Skinner a Tory I dunno, a bloke with a knife started attacking people at random. It's obviously awful for the people personally involved, and the circumstances and shooting make it more politically relevant, but the media and government always fall over themselves to make a huge deal out of small acts of violence (if they can tie it to the current bogeyman, otherwise the violence that happens every day mostly gets ignored) The whole point of terrorism is to make the biggest impact with limited action and limited resources, so the amount of gravitas that's lent to these incidents just makes them massively effective and encourages more people with a grudge to go out and stab someone or drive a car on the pavement. Obviously it benefits an authoritarian government and entertainment media to play it up, it's still poo poo
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