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KoRMaK posted:They would have just found something else to do that would have similar enterprising and exploitative properties. Okay so Gates and Bezos end up running the porn magazine empires. Wow.
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Nov 30, 2019 08:30
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Peter Thiel runs a for-profit blood bank chain.  a tv, IV, if you would
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Nov 30, 2019 08:31
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As stupid as it was of a question and response, seriously how do you hold computers back? I would imagine that they'd proliferate for enterprise to enterprise, like FBI and stuff, or maybe even a computer corp that launches comm satellites, but that kind of break through at the enterprise level would be hard to keep from translating to personal use. Those sysadmins are going to realize how useful it is for a bunch of things at home and for personal use. And the restriction of such technology would just raise questions by people in this field of "why can't we get this at home? The internet isn't going to summon a squid monster, that surely isn't what the govt is proposing...."
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Nov 30, 2019 08:36
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KoRMaK posted:As stupid as it was of a question and response, seriously how do you hold computers back? The whole point of the squid monster was a nuclear option holocaust designed to use psychic force and trauma to terrorize mankind for a generation or more. So people aren't going to be operating rationally in response to that. Consider Looking Glass, and his bunker, and his alarms, and his reflectoleum hood. You think that guy is gonna install computers and an internet line to his house? If people can shrug off the squid monster in any fashion, then Ozymandias' "I DID IT!" wasn't true. If he did actually do it, then that means he permanently altered mankind's culture.
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Nov 30, 2019 08:41
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People in Watchmen think computers give you cancer. If people in real life can literally let their children die because vaccines, which are obviously safe, are suspected of causing non-fatal autism, then I think people in the Watchmen universe can be willing not to download porn because advanced technology, which was credibly linked to a dude who as far as anyone knew was causing cancer in everyone he got close to, is suspected of causing cancer. Like, Veidt was behind a whole media scare linking Manhattan and cancer. If Bill Gates threw his money behind "cell phones cause brain cancer" and did it via actually causing some people to get cancer, imagine how many people would stop using cell phones!
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Nov 30, 2019 08:44
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TychoCelchuuu posted:People in Watchmen think computers give you cancer. If people in real life can literally let their children die because vaccines, which are obviously safe, are suspected of causing non-fatal autism, then I think people in the Watchmen universe can be willing not to download porn because advanced technology, which was credibly linked to a dude who as far as anyone knew was causing cancer in everyone he got close to, is suspected of causing cancer. Like, Veidt was behind a whole media scare linking Manhattan and cancer. If Bill Gates threw his money behind "cell phones cause brain cancer" and did it via actually causing some people to get cancer, imagine how many people would stop using cell phones! This is compelling However, I do wonder how American the scare phenomenon would be. I just don't know if other nations peoples would believe for more than 10 years, especially if it meant taking a loss on potential opportunities and GDP growth acceleration But, being afraid of the squid globally would be like some sort of religion. Which is believable Is there ever evidence of computers cause cancer in watchmen? I thought it was just teleportation technology bad, dr Manhattan cancer. But just silicon chips? They're as fine as electric cars
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Nov 30, 2019 09:03
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I thought it was because Dr. Manhattan invented, manifested or was otherwise heavily involved in everything technology related. But then again, he made all the lithium for the car batteries so someone else answer the guy above me and also me as well
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Nov 30, 2019 09:16
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I would also imagine that 20+ years of hard-nosed Nixonism would have had some effect on the academic and research sectors which would have pioneered computer technologies. Manhattan was doing super science but by 1985 it all seemed to be high-concept experimentation with little everyman value. The taboo towards cellular communications might be from a basic logical line being drawn between them and psychic phenomenon/vulnerability, to the point where the Manhattan-Phones are landline booths with clear video diagrams of how your message is being transmitted. I'm not sure what cultural touchstones or waves led to cloning being so commonplace, but it might be a weird nihilism and/or bacchanal towards biological life after three million people and God knows how many animals were all butchered in an instant This is all speculation solely about the USA's technology and culture, but the property always had a very narrow scope; Watchmen is an EXTREMELY American series of fiction
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Nov 30, 2019 10:43
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TychoCelchuuu posted:If Bill Gates threw his money behind "cell phones cause brain cancer" and did it via actually causing some people to get cancer, imagine how many people would stop using cell phones! not me. i will never log off.
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Nov 30, 2019 11:05
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KoRMaK posted:This is compelling I might be misremembering the graphic novel but didn't the squid's psychic shockwave gently caress with the minds of sensitive individuals across the planet? I imagine having a % of your population wake up screaming every night because the Americans dabbled in fancy technology and went too far would have an impact on most nations' willingness to invest in developing more fancy technologies.
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Nov 30, 2019 11:45
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w0o0o0o posted:I might be misremembering the graphic novel but didn't the squid's psychic shockwave gently caress with the minds of sensitive individuals across the planet? I imagine having a % of your population wake up screaming every night because the Americans dabbled in fancy technology and went too far would have an impact on most nations' willingness to invest in developing more fancy technologies. 
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Chadzok posted:I thought it was because Dr. Manhattan invented, manifested or was otherwise heavily involved in everything technology related.
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Nov 30, 2019 14:00
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That panel makes Veidt leaving a video message grate on me a bit more even though I’ve been trying to get past it.
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Nov 30, 2019 15:35
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Bernstrike posted:Pray to the Lube God. "I never said, 'The lube man exists and he’s American.' What I said was ‘Lube God exists and he’s American.' If that statement starts to chill you after a couple of moments’ consideration, then don’t be alarmed. A feeling of intense and crushing religious terror at the concept indicates only that you are still sane."
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Nov 30, 2019 16:59
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Nov 30, 2019 17:40
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I wish I lived in a world where lube tricks became big instead of parkour.
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Nov 30, 2019 18:49
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Ethiser posted:I wish I lived in a world where lube tricks became big instead of parkour. Be the change you want to see in the world.
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Nov 30, 2019 19:37
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KoRMaK posted:As stupid as it was of a question and response, seriously how do you hold computers back? Technology isn't a linear progression like a game of Civilization where things are always moving forward in a widening fan forever, culture almost entirely dictates what is made and what becomes popular especially once it reaches the point where it requires significant manufacturing like a personal computer does or infrastructure like the internet and cell phones. There is right at this very moment a working vaccine for Lyme disease that just doesn't get made because it's not profitable outside of being sold for veterinary use thanks to America's privatized medical system and anti-vaccine culture. The gorilla glass responsible for smart phones and modern touch screen devices was invented in the 60s and basically just sat in a drawer somewhere until Apple found it looking for materials that would work for the iPhone. To tie into the themes of the show, the entire proliferation of white flour in America was driven largely by xenophobic and racist fears of 'impurities' making their ways into food just as the modern backlash against gluten is driven almost entirely by weird class signifiers and a distrust of or lack of access to modern medicine. Also the internet is a major tipping point for how information moves and proliferates freely and with the squid incident occurring right on the cusp of the point where internet as we know it took off it would basically destroy that opportunity for the forseeable future since even if you had people deciding it would be nice to have a spreadsheet machine at home there's not much else you could do without a network to connect it to or commercial software and hardware to buy for it. The best you might have is something like the magazines and physical mailing lists of the 80s microcomputer scene in Europe and Japan assuming the government didn't bust those open as soon as they popped up.
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Nov 30, 2019 20:48
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Having computer systems and wanting to share data between those systems to process information was the part I meant. We've always been trying to push that along, even in ancient times when we were just figuring out how to write things down and share them. poo poo, the telegraph and phone both had several people racing to file the patent all who independently got struck with the same idea and had the same materials and parts at the same time. Doesn't even have to be data like for spreadsheets, could just be stories and messages and general information. Gorilla glass and those other champagne like discoveries are NOT what I meant. KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Nov 30, 2019 21:02
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I often think about how the Romans had all of the individual parts of a steam machine, and in fact had small children's toys that were self-propelled and ran on tiny steam engines, but they just didn't have the same cultural desire for productivity that we do so no one ever thought "huh, I could use this machine to do lots of things!" Then I think about how I saw a toy car on the 90's Discovery Channel show called Next Step that had a tiny, hydrogen powered car with a little solar powered gas station that just needed you to add water and it would use solar energy to break down the water into hydrogen and oxygen to refuel the toy car... Or how the technology to make humans functionally immortal exists today but too many people feel ~icky~ about living for longer than a hundred years so welp... 
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Nov 30, 2019 21:34
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Or how the technology to make humans functionally immortal exists today but too many people feel ~icky~ about living for longer than a hundred years so welp... Is this about the blood of children?
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Nov 30, 2019 21:53
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Or how the technology to make humans functionally immortal exists today but too many people feel ~icky~ about living for longer than a hundred years so welp... It really doesn't, there's just a lot of fragile people who are terrified of the concept of the death and the super wealthy are willing to bankroll crackpot "futurists" to massage their ego by assuring them that Atheist Rapture is right around the corner just so long as you keep spending money on their "research" and saying ten Cyber Hail Marys at every press release.
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Nov 30, 2019 21:59
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Reviewers have had the next two episodes made available to them and no one is saying peep but apparently the quality DONT LET UP
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Dec 1, 2019 01:33
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They can take organs, wash out the cell material, seed the remaining matrix with your stem cells, and grow new, rejection-proof organs. Also, if you take that matrix (pig bladders work best for this) and just grind up the matrix, the powder regrows severed fingers and probably limbs!  if you think this isn’t a service that billionaires currently receive in SE Asia...
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:They can take organs, wash out the cell material, seed the remaining matrix with your stem cells, and grow new, rejection-proof organs. Glass is in The Report!!
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Dec 1, 2019 02:44
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KoRMaK posted:Sounds complicated, is it easily reproducible? Check out this report so old that nobody likes this guy anymore! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLs8DeHVkec
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i gotta say, i kinda like how hooded justice kinda of a more left wing black rorshach. the whole scene of him kinda reminded me of Rorschach's "birth" scene.
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Walking home from your own hanging, broken, seeing an assualt, and reclaiming your agency and also realizing you gotta lot of rage to funnel, and you just throw on the only thing you have, the ropes and hood from your own hanging and going to kick rear end and exact some revenge. and jazz was playing during the scene which reflected what i assume is his heart rate and rage holy poo poo i just cant believe it hasnt been a story 40 years in the making. it makes so much sense. i cant beleive it hasnt been planned from the start with how much it aligns
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KoRMaK posted:Walking home from your own hanging, broken, seeing an assualt, and reclaiming your agency and also realizing you gotta lot of rage to funnel, and you just throw on the only thing you have, the ropes and hood from your own hanging and going to kick rear end and exact some revenge. and jazz was playing during the scene which reflected what i assume is his heart rate and rage not even that one. i more mean when he realizes his super friends don't give a flying gently caress about him in the phone booth and that he shoots fred trump and all the other KKKops in the wearhouse. it reminded me of Rorschach and the dogs. that was his "gently caress it, i am this now" moment.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:not even that one. i more mean when he realizes his super friends don't give a flying gently caress about him in the phone booth and that he shoots fred trump and all the other KKKops in the wearhouse. it reminded me of Rorschach and the dogs. that was his "gently caress it, i am this now" moment. i thought we were going to get a tense couple of minutes where he walked with trump-dad to the warehouse and we had a moment where he was ambushed but NOPE just fuckin shoot him same with laurie this show just does not bullshit us with of the characters being stereotypically having to play it cool to give some illusion of playing along or something. its great. just BLAM then BLAM, BLAM, BLAM 
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KoRMaK posted:Walking home from your own hanging, broken, seeing an assualt, and reclaiming your agency and also realizing you gotta lot of rage to funnel, and you just throw on the only thing you have, the ropes and hood from your own hanging and going to kick rear end and exact some revenge. and jazz was playing during the scene which reflected what i assume is his heart rate and rage It is extremely at odds with everything about him in the book, but literally the inverse of what he is in the book, so not irrelevant. They’re just all about white supremacy in opposite ways.
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The only thing I can't really reconcile with the books is that the actor simply isn't big enough to be Hooded Justice. HJ is supposed to be this huge bodybuilder who looks like a circus strongman, and the guy they got for the role just looks completely average. It's was especially weird when the journalists at the press conference asked him whether his strength was supernatural when we hadn't seen him display any feats of strength at all. Everything else you can chalk up to him roleplaying a standard racist white dude to fit in.
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SimonChris posted:The only thing I can't really reconcile with the books is that the actor simply isn't big enough to be Hooded Justice. HJ is supposed to be this huge bodybuilder who looks like a circus strongman, and the guy they got for the role just looks completely average. It's was especially weird when the journalists at the press conference asked him whether his strength was supernatural when we hadn't seen him display any feats of strength at all. I'm too lazy to find it right now but pretend I found the studies that showed white people typically report black males as being taller than they actually are
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KoRMaK posted:I'm too lazy to find it right now but pretend I found the studies that showed white people typically report black males as being taller than they actually are Yeah, but the whole point is that people didn't know he was black.
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Dec 1, 2019 10:02
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lol, poo poo
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Dec 1, 2019 10:09
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KoRMaK posted:I'm too lazy to find it right now but pretend I found the studies that showed white people typically report black males as being taller than they actually are Ok, that works in a meta sort of way, but nobody in-canon knows he's black. Edit: Oops, beaten. And regarding the reporters' questions, they're getting their info from, what, captured criminals, who we well know are a superstitious and cowardly lot? HJ is certainly not staging public exhibitions of feats of strength, so it's all hearsay. He is legend. Skitz fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Random prediction: not only is Veidt the statue in Triues office, he’s that way because as in the comics they never figured out how to teleport organic matter, so the only way to travel by teleport is to be carbonate-frozen.
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:format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19400929/IMG_2557.jpg) I like how I can now hear the sarcasm in his voice when rereading these panels  .
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graham cracker posted:I wanna see more of the panda guy who didn't want to release the guns to the cops. I just love how cops having to ask permission for unlocking their guns is a sign of how something is weird about society now while it's just standard procedure in my country and has been for a long time.
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