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Epic High Five posted:I think one of the most impressive accomplishments of this game that doesn't get discussed much (in broader media - it's a common refrain here) is Kim. I think at least 90% of all players going into this game expected the partner the game forces on you to be dead weight you'll undermine or bail on as soon as possible, but it's not very long at all before you're thinking that you'd defend him with your life and the thought of hurting him is totally abhorrent. Kim is the best NPC I've ever had. He is the perfect foil to the extremes of Harry's self-destructiveness and weirdness while still having the potential for awesome friendship. I do want to try a totally bad cop run where I fail every red check and do my hardest to earn Kim's contempt.
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Caufman posted:I do want to try a totally bad cop run where I fail every red check and do my hardest to earn Kim's contempt. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1921534085
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They really got to make the "crab" a mexican stereotype... really? The "homes" and all of that? ugh the voice acting is so off putting too. I tried to put up with cuno's caricature but this too? drat voice acting could at least be more believable then some dude on the mic pretending to be mexican Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Nov 30, 2019 21:28
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are they claiming that Mexicans live in the rafters and worship holes in existence
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Hwurmp posted:are they claiming that Mexicans live in the rafters and worship holes in existence voice acting just throws me off, reminds me of cuno
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imagine if someone tried to incarnate your culture, it feels off putting edit: dialogue is fine, just the voice acting makes it so horrible
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Nov 30, 2019 21:34
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chaosapiant posted:Voice acting is awesome. must be nice
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What was wrong with Cuno's delivery?
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Caufman posted:Kim is the best NPC I've ever had. He is the perfect foil to the extremes of Harry's self-destructiveness and weirdness while still having the potential for awesome friendship. He's also a living indictment of the "oh we'll throw nine different shallowly implemented companions at you and hopefully you won't hate at least a couple" approach of Fallout 4 and Dragon Age Inquisition and Pillars 1-2 and so many others. ZAUM went "Okay, here's the guy you get. He's the only one, because we're actually confident in our writing. You will loving love him. And because he's the only one, we've implemented the gently caress out of him." More devs should have the confidence to actually commit to a few really good NPCs instead of a bunch of mediocre ones. Witcher 3 and, to the lesser extent, Planescape: Torment are the only ones I can think of who actually did this. (In CRPGs at least.) Megazver fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Rabid Snake posted:They really got to make the "crab" a mexican stereotype... really? Is that really a Mexican thing? I thought it was Angelino.
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Rabid Snake posted:This delores dei fellow seems like a "holy" george washington figure. she had a mandatory education programs (lets be real "reeducation" seems like a brainwashing) and mass resettlement? and called her military force the "army of humanity"? I hope we get to slay this poo poo I saw her more as a Queen Isabella I of Castile figure, what with the Reconquista + Inquisition (there's your resettlement & reeducation right there), getting dubbed the Catholic Monarch and that. Oh, and much later getting kinda-sorta canonized as well, but she'd already done quite a lot of "basically I'm a saint" PR in her lifetime. Of course, none of that is relevant to why DD is meaningful to Harry.
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Megazver posted:He's also a living indictment of the "oh we'll throw nine different shallowly implemented companions at you and hopefully you won't hate at least a couple" approach of Fallout 4 and Dragon Age Inquisition and Pillars 1-2 and so many others. The latter two have more companions because they’re made to fill out a party. DA and POE have a heavy focus on combat with the writing being kind of a side, so they need a variety so you can build out things for combat encounters. This game and Torment don’t have that combat emphasis, so they can really focus on just a couple of characters.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:The latter two have more companions because they’re made to fill out a party. DA and POE have a heavy focus on combat with the writing being kind of a side, so they need a variety so you can build out things for combat encounters. This game and Torment don’t have that combat emphasis, so they can really focus on just a couple of characters. Eh. In the recent Fallouts, Mass Effects and The Outer Worlds you have two companions at a time and most of the selection is pretty meh. In DA:I, you run around with three at time and I wouldn't mind getting rid of half of the ones you get to choose from. POE is just kinda meh all around. Torment's companions are a little light on content by modern standards but they basically gave you five that you'll nudged towards having for the entire game and two evil ones that you can immediately, cough, send away.
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I'm at the final dream sequence and man does Volition really struggle   I mean, yikes, brother. Pull up! Xander77 posted:Like half my guides are specifically in response to posts in this thread: They will be referenced, thank you. Megazver posted:ZAUM went "Okay, here's the guy you get. He's the only one, because we're actually confident in our writing. You will loving love him. And because he's the only one, we've implemented the gently caress out of him." Masterfully, ZAUM also went, "Oh, and if you gently caress up or intentionally get your partner shot, here's Cuno for a while. Oh, you don't like Cuno? gently caress does Cuno care?! Caufman fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Having Cuno be with you isn't a punishment, he has a nice end to his arc and its heartwarming how hard he sticks up for you when it comes to the Phasmid and having your old crew take you back. I honestly felt not having Kim with me really stressed how hard poo poo had hit the fan. Though I did save everyone else I could.
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Caufman posted:I'm at the final dream sequence and man does Volition really struggle Everybody's got it rough there. Conceptualization goes all "what was that, what was I doing? It's foam. I'm foam." which I actually thought was kind of funny, since the morale heal from Actual Art Degree sounds like waves, a little? Oh hey, here's something I'm curious about : the other 10 XP passive doesn't unlock until day 3, but how early can you be an Art Cop?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:What was wrong with Cuno's delivery? Nothing, they just never met a young chav rear end in a top hat before, it was pretty spot on and gets the expected reaction.
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Son of a bitch! I had a nervous breakdown after radioing in to the precinct that I'd lost my badge and gun and needed money.
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Animal-Mother posted:Son of a bitch! I had a nervous breakdown after radioing in to the precinct that I'd lost my badge and gun and needed money. Makes sense. Coach wouldn't care for admitting that kind of weakness.
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Animal-Mother posted:Son of a bitch! I had a nervous breakdown after radioing in to the precinct that I'd lost my badge and gun and needed money. Health and morale healing items are stored in the little orange cross/blue cross boxes over your portrait. You can click them to emergency recover when you're at 0.
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Glazius posted:Everybody's got it rough there. Conceptualization goes all "what was that, what was I doing? It's foam. I'm foam." which I actually thought was kind of funny, since the morale heal from Actual Art Degree sounds like waves, a little? I just did some quick testing, you can get access to the thought by probably like 11 or 11:30 AM on day 1. you need to have The Jam Mystery quest started so do that asap, and then you can get art cop points from: -talking to Cindy the Skull about her work -talking to the Frittte girl about her magazine, bring up the fashion police line -examining the statue east of Tommy Le Homme -passing the conceptualization check to drop some poetry on Tommy which should give you the thought
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Alec Meer does some good writing about the game: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/29/disco-elysium-offers-a-dark-mirror-to-my-mid-life-crisis/ Man, that's an amazing piece.
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Aye Doc posted:I just did some quick testing, you can get access to the thought by probably like 11 or 11:30 AM on day 1. you need to have The Jam Mystery quest started so do that asap, and then you can get art cop points from: Wow, that's fast. Talking to Joyce also opens up Fifteenth Indotribe and Jamais Vu, so that's a great start. ...it's kind of weird that nothing but your own curiosity is going to take you up that far.
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Rabid Snake posted:She also I mean I understand completely why she was cagey and why she was willing to lie to save herself. And in any case when she does tell you the truth it's usually about pretty major, important things: 1) That she didn't kill the mercenary. 2) That she was in a consensual relationship with him. 3) The thread she sets up at the end of the game does point you to the island. 4) I could be wrong but IIRC she was being truthful about where her paperwork was stashed, even if it was a moot point and the details were either lies or misremembered. 5) As far as I found out and remember her history with corporate espionage was more or less accurate. I think she was well aware that she'd done enough that was wrong or suspicious that she could have easily wound up in jail at worst or at the very least publicly involved in a sensational crime case. In both cases a huge target would have been on her back, as is made very clear by Shivers if you do have her brought in.
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What's the most fourth wall breaking/reality twisting combo of skills to go for? I was thinking Inland Empire, Shivers and Esprit de Corps since IE leads to some of the crazier stuff while Shivers/EdC give you awareness of things happening elsewhere, making you feel more like a character in a larger story I wrote off EdC as being a "general cop stuff" skill for a while until I realised that it let you know what other cops were doing elsewhere
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Megazver posted:He's also a living indictment of the "oh we'll throw nine different shallowly implemented companions at you and hopefully you won't hate at least a couple" approach of Fallout 4 and Dragon Age Inquisition and Pillars 1-2 and so many others. Yeah, but consider this: a thousand skulls, each with their own voice acting.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Alec Meer does some good writing about the game: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/29/disco-elysium-offers-a-dark-mirror-to-my-mid-life-crisis/ That was me, lol. I wasn't even sure I had an account to comment on RPS but needed to quote that text as soon as possible
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Digital Osmosis posted:That was me, lol. I wasn't even sure I had an account to comment on RPS but needed to quote that text as soon as possible PHYSICAL INSTRUMENT: Don't thank me, you are the one who did it!
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drat that's a real fuckin good piecedead gay comedy forums posted:playing it again, doing funsies then It's a really underrated skill imho
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dead gay comedy forums posted:playing it again, doing funsies then Kim is the MC's Samwise. Treat him well and by god if he isn't the greatest homie you could ever hope to have your back.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:playing it again, doing funsies then    The only thing that confused me was, what was it with that Esprit de Corps comment you get at the very start where it says Kim would give his life for you and that he's your half-brother? I remember staring at that slack-jawed first time I saw it hoping it did not just spoil me on some absurd twist, but is it just meant to convey he's a cop from another precinct rather than your own?
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Perhaps a hamster posted:The only thing that confused me was, what was it with that Esprit de Corps comment you get at the very start where it says Kim would give his life for you and that he's your half-brother? I remember staring at that slack-jawed first time I saw it hoping it did not just spoil me on some absurd twist, but is it just meant to convey he's a cop from another precinct rather than your own? Yes, it is a figure of speech, like "brother from another mother". That fact that English isn't the writer's first language is insane to me, with the level of nuance he achieves. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Also, there are hints that Harry may have grown as a street urchin himself in a street gang, so it explains why Cuno can learn to respect him so easily. Possible source here: https://discoelysium.gamepedia.com/The_Fifteenth_Indotribe
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So I've just been doing every thought as they come and unlocking more slots in the thought cabinet to do so. Is there a real downside to this besides not spending those points in skills instead?
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UnknownMercenary posted:So I've just been doing every thought as they come and unlocking more slots in the thought cabinet to do so. Is there a real downside to this besides not spending those points in skills instead? Might become extremely racist.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Alec Meer does some good writing about the game: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/29/disco-elysium-offers-a-dark-mirror-to-my-mid-life-crisis/ Its amazing how the RPS writers went from their initial kneejerk rejection to DE to actually falling in love with the game Alpheratz fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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