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Tigey posted:Curse you plebs taking a small harmless incident involving a politician and inflating it out of all proportion, constantly circulating it again and again and again, til it becomes a story and leads to the person being discredited or smeared. Poor Jo was tricked into directly addressing the meme on national media  The squirrel army has a psychological warfare department and an excellent grasp of PR. Everyone thinks we're cute, Jo. How are you gonna beat that?   Edit: Squirrels gonna deep six ya
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Gonzo McFee posted:Which would be amazing considering the press have just taken the mask completely off this time around and thrown all impartiality out the window. I actually think this will backfire on them because while they're soberly and somewhat subtly undermining labour by starving them of oxygen etc it works (or has historically, Labour's social media game is really changing this) but they've so blatantly thrown their toys out the pram this time it's just made then look ridiculous.
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Angepain posted:100+ brexit party landslide inbound Angepain posted:parliament will catch fire two minutes after the exit poll Angepain posted:the skies will blacken and our children shall be born with fangs
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Due to the presence of social media, traditional media has become less relevant and less capable of shaping the narrative by itself; in addition, social media means the proles can now yell at you for your dogshit opinions. The scions of traditional media everywhere it seems have not been taking this well
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If labour end up C&S with the SNP I'd predict extending the franchise to 16, including for the brexit vote, and then another election the minute the SNP vote against anything in the manifesto.
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OwlFancier posted:If labour end up C&S with the SNP I'd predict extending the franchise to 16, including for the brexit vote, and then another election the minute the SNP vote against anything in the manifesto. That would be very smart politics
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OwlFancier posted:If labour end up C&S with the SNP I'd predict extending the franchise to 16, including for the brexit vote, and then another election the minute the SNP vote against anything in the manifesto. Getting more (lower class) people to vote for you is highly authoritarian and populist (just like Donald Trump). I'm very concerned about the state of democracy in Britain; and this OES report is quite troubling.
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Going off the guardian: "Labour would reduce the voting age to 16 and give full voting rights to all UK residents. There would also be automatic voter registration." So yeah, even if we can only manage a minority government, as long as they can get the franchise changes in I think we'd be in a really good place. Not least because the tories would be in absolute disarray if they lose seats I think. Especially if it decapitates half the current cabinet (figuratively or literally, your choice) Downside of course is that universal franchise means coohoolin's gonna vote SNP so hard they end up winning 400 seats. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:If labour end up C&S with the SNP I'd predict extending the franchise to 16, including for the brexit vote, and then another election the minute the SNP vote against anything in the manifesto. I don't think a formal C&S deal will be done in the event of a hung parliament and Labour would probably be allowed to run as a minority on a case by case basis - which does kind of suck with the FTPA but I doubt the other minority parties will be much of a mood to repeal it to allow Labour the chance to call an election a la Wilson to escape minority status.
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I suspect labour might take the same position as the tories re: parliamentary obstructionism in that case but with far more justification.
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RE: Keeping warm chat, something you might find interesting if you are in the market for a space heater to use for the winter... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jmSjy2ArM
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RE: keeping warm chat, don't feel ashamed if you're feeling sluggish and incapable! Being cold has that effect. My brain definitely doesn't work as well when I'm not warm enough, my motivation disappears, and I become clumsy. This is not your fault! It's on the fuckers squeezing you for every penny so you have no choice but to be cold   Let Jeremy's eye lasers warm your heart.
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A hot water bottle in your bed is an absolute godsend if you're in cold house especially if you have pretty bad circulation in your feet like me. My time on the dole would have been much much more miserable without this one cool trick.
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Jose posted:this would loving own instead of what we'd actually get Why is it that every time some rightwinger tries to tell a horror story they end up describing something that would own hard instead?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Why is it that every time some rightwinger tries to tell a horror story they end up describing something that would own hard instead? Because good things are bad to right wingers. Equality being the main issue they're concerned with.
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Dressing gowns are a godsend in cold weather honestly. Even the cheapest ones are generally made of the same fleecy polyester material most blankets are made of except are much, much more convenient to wear all the time, and can go over everything once you're indoors.
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I recommend doing your damnedest to get an actual cotton one though, they keep so much longer and wash much better.
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Knock at the door today, was hoping it was a Tory because I was in a mood. Turns out it was Labour. I took a poster from the guy and then the candidate spotted me being friendly and dashed across the lawn to say hi. Rebecca Lury, she seemed really nice, despite my general 'just woke up' disarray. We commiserated over late-night sonic boom nonsense. I stuck the poster in my window. That's my election story
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OwlFancier posted:Going off the guardian: Yeah, a minority labour government would have no difficulty passing this, since it's in the libdem and SNP manifestos as well. Only the tories don't want it.
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kustomkarkommando posted:I don't think a formal C&S deal will be done in the event of a hung parliament and Labour would probably be allowed to run as a minority on a case by case basis - which does kind of suck with the FTPA but I doubt the other minority parties will be much of a mood to repeal it to allow Labour the chance to call an election a la Wilson to escape minority status. The Tories will immediately call for a new election and keep making demented chicken memes at him for the entirety of the parliament.
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Enjoyed a bit of canvassing today! Did my first relatively posh area, so I was ready for some slammed doors. But it was actually nearly all Labour or persuadable undecideds. Even a Green lending his vote cos 'yeah, I guess the main thing is to get the sodding Tories out'. Thanks for everyone who gave me advice before, too, it was helpful on one occasion  Don't mean to noobsplain to you fellas, but I definitely recommend having a quick check of the local councillors before you go out, if you're not sure. This time round I got chatting with undecided voters about local issues quite a bit, and was able to pass on some casework. Just having the name and a bit of background info in my mind made me feel a lot more confident/professional and I was able to concentrate on the charm offensive and tailoring my messages about policy. It also reminded me that the last Tory councillor there got done for child sex offences 
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They’re going to want to call this a generational divide election, when in reality it’s a have and have-nots divide election
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Shogi posted:Don't mean to noobsplain to you fellas, No need to worry about that. Advice from actual hands-on experience is always valuable, and the UKMT is a resource for everyone except Pissflaps
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So there was some programme on after Marr where they were interviewing a group of people who were politically engaged, had developed opinions on a range of policy issues, and yet were apparently “undecided” about how they would vote. I can understand how low-information voters who are not engaged with politics could be undecided at this stage in an election, but I find it so hard to fathom that people who follow politics wouldn’t have made their mind up one way or another 11 days out from a hugely consequential election.
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Jel Shaker posted:They’re going to want to call this a generational divide election, when in reality it’s a have and have-nots divide election It's kinda both in that brexit is 90% just culture warring for the old and racist. Same with the whole tory platform really, it's spite for people who substitute spite for all other elements of their personality.
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Halisnacks posted:So there was some programme on after Marr where they were interviewing a group of people who were politically engaged, had developed opinions on a range of policy issues, and yet were apparently “undecided” about how they would vote. This is why canvassing is so important. Having someone physically get up in your face and say they are going to try and make things better. https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1201145341560721409 In other news, Alistair Campbell apparently doesn't know what a stair lift is. Which somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. E: Oh, and Jo; has officially come out and said that she's not going to support Jezza  ing stuff if Labour get a minority government. What an appalling, squirrel murdering arse.
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https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1200103328065175554 Pretty good idea, and excellent avatar material.
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Saros posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000bvdf Cheers for this, a right old listen from ~2hrs15min onwards. Nolan the first hack to have a CAR CRASH INTERVIEW on he own show?
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Qwertycoatl posted:Yeah, a minority labour government would have no difficulty passing this, since it's in the libdem and SNP manifestos as well. Only the tories don't want it. I admire your belief that the Lib Dems would actually stick to manifesto commitments.
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How... do you not know what a stairlift is? Even if you've never seen one IRL even I of all people have seen an advert for one.
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Pesky Splinter posted:https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1200103328065175554 Looks like something to pop into your local Wetherspoons. What's the mechanics of assembling these?
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Stair lifts are such a waste of money. Can't we just have jobseekers operating a winch-and-pulley system to move the infirm around? We can make this change under the Henry VIII powers! Edit: We can call the scroungers 'dumb waiters'! Guffaw guffaw honk! 
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Why would anyone need a stairlift when one can just ask one's nanny to carry oneself upstairs?thespaceinvader posted:I admire your belief that the Lib Dems would actually stick to manifesto commitments. Fair point. "Although we support lowering the voting age in principle, we are opposed to Jeremy Corbyn's plan to do so socialistically, antisemitically and brexitly" Qwertycoatl fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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I just had an epiphany about how a communal society would work, and it really surprised me, and I want to share it. I’m 24 hours into a 30 hour journey, without sleep. First I flew 10h from São Paulo to Madrid, then I had an 8 hour layover, and I’m now halfway through a 12 hour flight on to Hong Kong and the stupidly expensive WiFi actually loving works. On these long flights, people sometimes leave the toilets looking like poo poo. Sometimes covered in actual poo poo. So there I was on this second flight, shattered and exhausted, queueing for the loo. And when I finally got in, some absolute oval office had crapped all over the toilet seat and the floor was covered in piss. It was gross as gently caress, and there was a huge queue outside. So I got down on hands and knees and cleaned it all up, because it didn’t feel right to leave it there for someone else to deal with. It was completely disgusting but at the end of it I washed my hands in the basin and felt pretty good about myself. You probably do the same thing whenever you see a hosed up toilet or litter lying around by a bin or whatever, without even thinking about it. And I thought: that’s it, that’s the answer to the question that always bugged me about how socialism could work: who does the poo poo jobs, in a world where our society relies on poo poo jobs being done reliably? We all just reflexively chip in and do them when it’s needed so that nobody has to do them to an intolerable amount, and we take pleasure in living in a nice environment, that exists because maintenance is something everyone just agrees needs to be done, and reflexively does whenever they think can help whenever they see the opportunity. Because if even 1-2% of people bother to do that part time, nobody ever has to do it full time. I mean this was probably obvious to most of the thread already and you’re all good people who do this kind of thing all the time, but it honestly surprised me how good it felt to do something to clean up that no-one else is ever going to know or care about, and gently caress leaving it to the crew because their lives are hard enough already.
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Pesky Splinter posted:https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1200103328065175554 Jeremy Corbyn as a socialist pub elf is beautiful.
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I get fairly startled reactions when I do that in shops. E: Help, not poo poo all over the place.
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I've been trying to stay away from too much politics, but in the past couple of months my workplace has been fighting to keep some really important social care projects alive. But. I'd like to make the announcement that Lib Dem supported Tory cuts and austerity have finally caused the imminent shut down two major mental health social care projects at my workplace. One that helped non-elderly people with complex mental health problems who literally need someone to help them organise their lives with things like help getting to, and keeping appointments, keeping track of medications, paying bills, food shopping. The other helped Elderly disabled people around the house with cleaning, bills, phone calls, and such. So, good job Boris. Good job Swinson. Your lovely politics over the past decade have put the well being of thousands of current, and tens of thousands of future customers of ours in jeopardy. Great job you're doing there, guys. GREAT job. My role isn't affected (though for a while it was looking dodgy for me). But we're are losing about 50 amazing, caring members of staff if we can't find zero hour alternate funding (super unlikely). Good job. I'm extremely pissed off about it.
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