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i cant be the only one who exclusively associates eagles with fascists right. i dont care that its clutching bread and roses instead of arrows and a laurel wreath (another hilariously fascist call back)
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Larry Parrish posted:i cant be the only one who exclusively associates eagles with fascists right. i dont care that its clutching bread and roses instead of arrows and a laurel wreath (another hilariously fascist call back) It's also associated with worker's rights e.g. UFW.
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Eagles have been associated with everything for thousands of years because they're cool.
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"Gimme a bird surfing a baguette with a rose stuck in leg" "Also make it rad as hell" I enjoy it, but it doesn't fit the rest of the art style of the DSA.
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Tulip posted:It's also associated with worker's rights e.g. UFW. that's one of the only leftist ones and also I'd like to point out its typically stylized far differently than the traditional European style
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extremely weird rendition of the Mexican flag
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90% sure that's like von dutch clipart or something
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I don't exclusively associate eagles with fascism, but I doo associate it with imperialism in general, so I'm wondering why it was chosen to be part of the logo to begin with. It's a cool tattoo style, but the logo is way too busy
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what if it was a snake (beloved symbol of libertarians) coiled up on a loaf of bread & some roses i bet some metro dc person would have Trouble with snakes though
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i would rather the movement not be associated with copperheads personally
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I don't exclusively associate eagles with fascism, but I doo associate it with imperialism in general, so I'm wondering why it was chosen to be part of the logo to begin with. I think it's just intended to be art, not a logo. The LSC logo is pretty simple, it's basically the DSA logo with some black.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:so I'm wondering why it was chosen to be part of the logo to begin with. y'all are better people than I for not immediately recognizing a bald eagle the A in our name does not stand for International or Indigenous!
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what's the point of the other anarchist flag? for non socialist anarchists in the DSA? lol
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Tulip posted:I think it's just intended to be art, not a logo. The LSC logo is pretty simple, it's basically the DSA logo with some black. Google image search says it's from r/libertariansocialism and there it says it's the new logo lol. Anyone still active in the LSC confirm/deny?
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Ace of Baes posted:what's the point of the other anarchist flag? for non socialist anarchists in the DSA? lol at least they didn't have the three arrows flag
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"patriots" co-opt your stuff enough that you should be able to steal their bird in retaliation
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Why is there a sickle but not a hammer? Down with the peasantry but not the working class?
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Does the DSA really spend more time talking about symbolism of logos, and about its own members, than on things like training people to attack billionaires?
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Just tried to do a working group call. One person managed to show up, one person cancelled, and the rest no showed with no explanation. The meeting was cancelled. I loving love socialism.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Does the DSA really spend more time talking about symbolism of logos, and about its own members, than on things like training people to attack billionaires? Online? Absolutely.
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Doc Hawkins posted:they were too busy posting No they were too busy having things like "friends" and "lives." Disgusting liberals.
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gently caress the whining, poo poo's rad.
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Ace of Baes posted:what's the point of the other anarchist flag? for non socialist anarchists in the DSA? lol the flag on the left is the traditional "anarchist flag" and has the circle A logo on it ("anarchy is order"), the flag on the right is for anarcho-communism and is typically the flag you'll see more often these days. the art has both probably because the artist thought it looked cool and also because it encompasses other tendencies (syndicalism, mutualism, etc.) Grimoire posted:gently caress the whining, poo poo's rad. 
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Does the DSA really spend more time talking about symbolism of logos, and about its own members, than on things like training people to attack billionaires? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s04O8b-n5BA
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Does the DSA really spend more time talking about symbolism of logos, and about its own members, than on things like training people to attack billionaires? literally just had a meeting on saturday about trying to break the power of our local resident billionaire philanthropy magnate so i mean, be the change you want to be
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the no clapping thing probably saved us at least an hour of valuable convention time for actual business and defused arguments that only relied on obvious clap lines instead of actual political analysis, which was solely needed after much of the proceduralism delay on the first day. and we clapped and sang the internationale and solidarity forever at the end anyway only loving weirdos harp on a smoothly functioning meeting imo
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Zikan posted:only loving weirdos harp on a smoothly functioning meeting imo welcome to the something awful forums
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lol the clapping thing again, did Tim Pool release a video about it or something to get the terminally online hand-wringing-about-appearances caucus worked up or something
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Epic High Five posted:lol the clapping thing again, did Tim Pool release a video about it or something to get the terminally online hand-wringing-about-appearances caucus worked up or something every single post that guy has made in the thread is extremely concerned about clapping so he's very committed to his bit. every knows real socialism is clapping like a 3 year old to every line in a speech
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FRINGE posted:Sick burn. Im clapping. Everyone better run to the quiet room.
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Business Gorillas posted:if your disabilities are so dominating that you can't talk to strangers without having panic attacks, maybe trying to be part of a broad workers movement isn't for you Reads like something that would go on a calm_hitler.jpg meme
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i dont think its that unreasonable to say that if you cant do organizing work you shouldn't be an organizer. theres still other stuff that helpful that isnt actually organizing. like if you have massive anxieties maybe you could make the phamplets since they just take a printer and some staples and patience. and I think that saying it makes you a fascist to think that is extremely unhelpful.
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Larry Parrish posted:i dont think its that unreasonable to say that if you cant do organizing work you shouldn't be an organizer. theres still other stuff that helpful that isnt actually organizing. like if you have massive anxieties maybe you could make the phamplets since they just take a printer and some staples and patience. and I think that saying it makes you a fascist to think that is extremely unhelpful. That's organizing, dude
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If people who can't interact in a healthy way with others shouldn't be in the DSA then we need to close this thread.
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look, read the sign on above the door, okay, what's it say? that's right, "NO KAUTSKYS ALLOWED!!!!!!", not "No Anxious People Allowed", there's room for all in the DSA EXCEPT FOR KAUTSKY
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its all liberalism should I adapt myself to fill the needs of the group, no, the group must change to serve me! there is a place for everyone in the org but that doesn't mean everyone can do all the work how are you supposed to be a socialist org but can't even grasp the concept of relying on eachother's individual abilities to work together
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