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hey, I can win this if you just back out. well, maybe not for certain, but I’d certainly stand a better chance than if you were running too. why aren’t you backing out???? v v
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Labour has a way better set of environmental policies than the Green party, right?
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Gripweed posted:Labour has a way better set of environmental policies than the Green party, right? Yup, flat out ban on fracking.
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it depends - they're pretty even in some ways, but labour is miles better on nuclear power, for example the big thing with labour's plan is the Green Industrial Revolution. it's basically a planned-economy exercise in shifting the economy away from more polluting industries and into greener stuff. this, along with a promise to enact sectoral bargaining in wage negotiations, has got the unions onside, which is one of the traditional big stumbling blocks for ambitious green plans basically, one needs not only have policies that theoretically help with the environment, because that quickly ends up with macronism - cars bad, so levy fees on cars. corbyn's project is much more egalitarian, and means that he'll likely be able to avoid a yellow vest-style outrage. this is huge! it means that the left have a credible claim to just owning the issue of the environment, which is incredibly important and only going to get more so. it's the first major party i've seen to be able to bypass the Green "anti-ideology" and demonstrate how false it is. it's great
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Modest Mao posted:if you'd planned to spend $20,000, then cancelled that plan and instead additionally worked to save $30,000 more dollars, I'd reckon you'd saved $50,000 over your original plan buddy, do you spend nurses?
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:im either the 0% predicted Green vote share, or the lib dems in the comments urging labour to step aside so that the lib dems can take the seat. I haven't decided yet The first part is probably a reasonable prediction as apparently they aren't standing.
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Dec 1, 2019 17:02
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cspam party standing in all constituencies
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Dec 1, 2019 17:07
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Told my Mum I'd started canvassing. She's started leafleting, firing me up to do more. Im in Altrincham Sale West, any other goons nearby?
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Jables88 posted:Told my Mum I'd started canvassing. She's started leafleting, firing me up to do more. Wythenshawe and Sale East here comrade.
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Morter posted:buddy, do you spend nurses? I mean if they estimate losing and not replacing 20,000 people vs. keeping those people plus another 30,000... I think the point is with this plan there's gunna be 50,000 more nurses than without. It seems coherent to my yankee brain and yet these hosts just can't get enough of it
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Dec 1, 2019 21:02
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like it's extraordinarily easy to follow what they're saying and the hosts are just mucking it up, having a go or maybe just having a laugh, rubbish
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Modest Mao posted:I mean if they estimate losing and not replacing 20,000 people vs. keeping those people plus another 30,000... They're very specifically always saying 50000 new nurses. Retaining nurses doesn't make them new
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Jose posted:They're very specifically always saying 50000 new nurses. Retaining nurses doesn't make them new otoh nurses are fungible I think it's grammatically allowed, or at worst the least interesting political debacle to be tackled twice by the media Modest Mao has issued a correction as of 21:37 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Dec 1, 2019 21:35
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don't funge nurses thats not very nice
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Dec 1, 2019 21:36
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Modest Mao posted:otoh nurses are fungible I'm also a yankee and I'm not comprehending a single defensible thing about this: If there was like a contract due to end soon or even some weirdly perceived notion that 'the other party was going to make us lose 20k nurses', then yes, there's a clear connection between 'Us planning to have 50k more nurses' than other circumstances. As was mentioned, though, the talking point is '50,000 new nurses'. The 20k expected-to-be-lost-and-yet-retained is not new. So what needs to be answered are the following: 1) Was there some sort of issue where everyone thought that the UK was due to lose 20,000 nurses for [x] reason? Please solve for [x] because I have no clue about this. 2) Why the hell couldn't they just say 30,000 new nurses? No one would fight them on that!
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Modest Mao posted:otoh nurses are fungible The grammar isn't the issue. It's a deliberate attempt to mislead in a policy area where the Tories are rightly already not trusted.
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also "there's going to be 50,000 more nurses than there are currently because we're going to try to not drive out the 20,000 who would have left by that point if things carry on as they are" isn't a particularly great argument when the reason nursing is so poo poo is because of your government especially because it's not something you can guarantee you can deliver even if you were genuinely interested in doing it (and you're not)
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Lots of nurses are leaving because of the conditions in the NHS after years of Tory cuts Also lots of nurses come from the EU. Brexit
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actually the nurses are leaving because of the Labour-enabled culture of anti-Semitism
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Jables88 posted:Told my Mum I'd started canvassing. She's started leafleting, firing me up to do more. Sale East here. Life has got very in the way of campaigning but I'm planning to do some next weekend and I've booked election day off work.
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if this is how I get the news, well, lmao
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Zoran posted:if this is how I get the news, well, lmao https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1201258641329917958
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lol having to banish her favorite pedo son was to much
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Sounds like horseshit, she's 93. Reptilian megafauna can life far in excess of 100
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Labour's anti-semitism was so bad it killed the queen.
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wow, she survived ww2 but couldn’t survive brexit
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If you told me that in 2019 the absolute boy would be taking style tips from Conor McGregor I'd loving laugh you out of the room https://twitter.com/fatherqueerest/status/1201258300534222849
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The queen is loving dead
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If the queen is dead you guys have to replace all your money, right?
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lol a Bloomberg opinion writer in the US dared question the anti-semitism narrative and is now being called a far left anti-semite https://twitter.com/A_saada_/status/1201214222992105472?s=20 https://twitter.com/angloyankdad/status/1201215373175140352?s=20
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Noah Smith is like the picture of bloodless centrism too lmao
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Gripweed posted:If the queen is dead you guys have to replace all your money, right? Also the stamps. And have to delay the election And change all the government stationary to say His Majesty's Government instead of Her Majesty's
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Lol at Noah Smith being "far left" Still don't get why American Jews in the whole are pretty progressive but most British Jews are Tories
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Does the king need to touch the mace to re-mace it, or does the mace king somebody?
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Killing the queen for the good of the people, absolute mad lad
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