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This twist is stupid as hell. Yes it was foreshadowed (I mean come on, Cal, and HE'S NO CAL), but what the gently caress, why would Dr. Manhattan come back from gallivanting around the cosmos to be a house husband in Tulsa? I have to say overall while this episode had some cool things style wise, this was probably the worst so far and I'm not looking forward to a trip down memory lane with not-BIlly-Crudup next week.
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whats the song playing at the end of the ep? osterman always gotta have a woman, eh? just a hopeless romantic nerd that suddenly got fit and hot and cant stop  this was a great reveal. so we get our boi manhattan back for a bit, and he maybe dies but hopefully angela and triue stop super mecha racist from becoming
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also cal, superman, etcNail Rat posted:This twist is stupid as hell. Yes it was foreshadowed (I mean come on, Cal, and HE'S NO CAL), but what the gently caress, why would Dr. Manhattan come back from gallivanting around the cosmos to be a house husband in Tulsa? don't be so pesitmistic we'll see duh just shut up.
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between Hooded Justice and Doc Manhattan I’m starting to wonder if all super heroes are secretly black.
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The song is Life on Mars? by David Bowie.
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Yeah, I think it's fine. You have to remember now that Hooded Justice wasn't loving around when he said he was Dr. Manhattan. This was always about trying to get to Dr. Manhattan. Also, under-appreciated, Hooded Justice gets Superman's origin. Angela's gets Batman's, but Zorro is replaced by a Pamela Greer-esque movie. And that is fantastic. Also my prediction for the end: Joe gets transformed but just becomes a gross abomination. The big reveal is that it's not just the accident. Jon was an uniquely impressive individual for being able to put himself back together... something the book supports. The White Supremacist tries to live out his fantasies of being objectively superior only to have it objectively proven to him that the Jewish-Now-Black Dr. Manhattan is better than him. EDIT: I also like how the show inverses the expectations. People are pretty much who you end up expecting they are or who they are. Will really was the murderer. Lady T really is trying to save the world. Judd was a white supremacist. Angela is ostensively our Rorschach in that she's our point of view character. And it's her who has the big reveal that she's hiding something., Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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FishBowlRobot posted:Can’t believe the huge twist that Will Reeves isn’t a black man, and has instead been an elephant in disguise this whole time. An elephant never forgets.
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Nail Rat posted:This twist is stupid as hell. Yes it was foreshadowed (I mean come on, Cal, and HE'S NO CAL), but what the gently caress, why would Dr. Manhattan come back from gallivanting around the cosmos to be a house husband in Tulsa? I said it in more detail last page, but I think this is a different Manhattan who never went to the cosmos. He could split himself into multiples and did during Vietnam, with one becoming Cal. The Trieu's mom clones, Europa clones, and Mirror Guy's ex's pet cloning business were all foreshadowing. Also how we'll probably soon have competing Manhattans.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Yeah, I think it's fine. You have to remember now that Hooded Justice wasn't loving around when he said he was Dr. Manhattan. This was always about trying to get to Dr. Manhattan. i just hope we get to see some Chuds explode into gore farts like the OG rorschach.
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We never saw what happened to Will, did we? There has to be some kind of reveal coming up with that too.
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The "she's my mother" twist was really fun, though. The perfect grandma lady dying before she even got Angela to Tulsa was kinda stupid in my opinion, and not in a "trap door in the living room" way, it just felt shallow.
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Nail Rat posted:An elephant never forgets. Is Lady Trieu harvesting Angela's memory?
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So. with just two episodes left and the next episode seemingly a flashback to younger Angela and Dr M meeting just what the gently caress of relevance could Veidt possibly do in this show that is going to justify him hanging around one scene per ep this whole time?Timeless Appeal posted:Yeah, I think it's fine. You have to remember now that Hooded Justice wasn't loving around when he said he was Dr. Manhattan. This was always about trying to get to Dr. Manhattan. Refresh my memory, what did Will say about Dr M?
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Nail Rat posted:An elephant never forgets. This is what I thought. A cure for a drug about memory having to do with an elephant is too fun to not use as a joke
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Timeless Appeal posted:Yeah, I think it's fine. You have to remember now that Hooded Justice wasn't loving around when he said he was Dr. Manhattan. This was always about trying to get to Dr. Manhattan. Timeless Appeal posted:Also my prediction for the end: Joe gets transformed but just becomes a gross abomination. The big reveal is that it's not just the accident. Jon was an uniquely impressive individual for being able to put himself back together... something the book supports. The White Supremacist tries to live out his fantasies of being objectively superior only to have it objectively proven to him that the Jewish-Now-Black Dr. Manhattan is better than him. double lol at the "if keene wants to ride into the white house i say let him" Nail Rat posted:An elephant never forgets.
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Super exited for Mirror Guy's triumphant return. Also now that everyone's snarky FBI agent is captured it is up to her trusty sidekick Lube Guy to save her. Hopefully these two events happen simultaneously.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Also my prediction for the end: Joe gets transformed but just becomes a gross abomination. The big reveal is that it's not just the accident. Jon was an uniquely impressive individual for being able to put himself back together... something the book supports. The White Supremacist tries to live out his fantasies of being objectively superior only to have it objectively proven to him that the Jewish-Now-Black Dr. Manhattan is better than him. That sounds about right, yeah. It's his watchmaking experience that let him reassemble himself. Keene never learned how to do poo poo other than be a spoiled politician's kid.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:The "she's my mother" twist was really fun, though. This part I thought was fine, it underscored Angela's trauma. After all, June was in her 60s and the way the scene was framed, to me, made it clear she wasn't making it into the cab. quote:So. with just two episodes left and the next episode seemingly a flashback to younger Angela and Dr M meeting just what the gently caress of relevance could Veidt possibly do in this show that is going to justify him hanging around one scene per ep this whole time? You know what gently caress it, I'm leaning all the way in on this. For some reason the clones coat Ozy in gold and shoot him on a rocket of some kind (powered by steam and/or corpse gas?) and he crash lands in Tulsa sometime in the year before this show. That's really him in the statue. Trieu has been harvesting his memories for some kind of breakthrough she needs for the clock. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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KoRMaK posted:Waiiit wait wait... whats the jump people are saying Hooded Justice is manhattan? I didn't see that leap in episode. Will is just will, cal was secretly a vessle for dr manhattan to hang out in. not to gloat but told ya'll he could figure out a way if he wanted
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Nail Rat posted:An elephant never forgets. I get the impression that they were harvesting her memories there. Dr.M reveal was good. His existence in the universe is too big for the show to not have him be a pivotal part of the plot.
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feedmyleg posted:That sounds about right, yeah. It's his watchmaking experience that let him reassemble himself. Keene never learned how to do poo poo other than be a spoiled politician's kid. He did get his cult to obsess over clocks.
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I'm relieved that the 7k is in fact racist and terrible and that it wasn't just some sort of coverTimeless Appeal posted:What i mean is that when Will claims he's Dr. Manhattan and implies that Dr. Manhattan could disguise himself as a human, it's because he probably already knew about Angela. It wasn't some random bullshit he was saying. He was goading her. Gotcha, right, just wnated to make sure I wasn't misisng some other connection you were making. I suggested dr manhattan could disguse himself way back and took heat for it
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This is gonna go down as either the greatest or stupidest first season in television history.
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Seen on Twitter: Dr. Manhattan is walking around on Earth incognegro
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:The "she's my mother" twist was really fun, though. I liked that delivery and again the show not bullshitting us with wasting our time. The trap door was a lot of fun. motherbox posted:This is gonna go down as either the greatest or stupidest first season in television history. 
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Basically the next episode has to sell this plot point well enough to justify something so pivotal having so little set-up (if Cal's "amnesia" was mentioned before tonight in more than a single throwaway line, it went past me), while also finally giving us an answer on what the hell is going on with Veidt, and that's a pretty tall order even for a show that has reached the highs that this one has.
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I want to kind of push what I was saying before... Watchmen is a whodunit where everyone just tells you what's going on. The murderer in the inciting incident admits what he did from the jump. Watchmen is weird, but everything is surprisingly straight forward. But the big dramatic question is basically: Why Angela? Why was she being sought out from the get go? The Manhattan reveal makes sense when you realize that the magic trick of the show is that it essentially misdirected you from the actual question.
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I knew Cal was going to be some kind of double because he played the dad in Us. 
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Basically the next episode has to sell this plot point well enough to justify something so pivotal having so little set-up (if Cal's "amnesia" was mentioned before tonight in more than a single throwaway line, it went past me), while also finally giving us an answer on what the hell is going on with Veidt, and that's a pretty tall order even for a show that has reached the highs that this one has. As much as I hate this twist, Cal having an "accident" was mentioned before ("Did she ask you about your accident?" "Didn't come up."). I feel like for that, that's enough foreshadowing. They don't need to say amnesia three times. You know there was an accident and it was in some way life altering. When Trieu mentioned Dr. M was in Tulsa pretending to be human so shortly after talking about "total amnesia, huh, that never happens" and goaded Angela over his identity, I knew, I loving knew, but I was hoping I'd be wrong because the twist is dumb. Why couldn't it have been Lube Man?
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beanieson posted:So. with just two episodes left and the next episode seemingly a flashback to younger Angela and Dr M meeting just what the gently caress of relevance could Veidt possibly do in this show that is going to justify him hanging around one scene per ep this whole time? He’s almost certainly Trieu’s father but I agree that he doesn’t really fit the tone of the main story and it would be stupid to have him and Trieu super-sciencing and bickering while trying to stop Keene. She’s probably going to do something sadistic to him and maybe he is actually the statue in the garden.
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Revol posted:Seen on Twitter: Dr. Manhattan is walking around on Earth incognegro Oh my god I felt bad for laughing at this.
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Nail Rat posted:You know what gently caress it, I'm leaning all the way in on this. For some reason the clones coat Ozy in gold and shoot him on a rocket of some kind (powered by steam and/or corpse gas?) and he crash lands in Tulsa sometime in the year before this show. That's really him in the statue. Trieu has been harvesting his memories for some kind of breakthrough she needs for the clock. Maybe the clock is to change him back? Like hey, Veidt is probably a guy you want on your side to save the world, even if his methods might seem terrible.
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Also put me down for Veidt being the statue so that people can gaze upon him and despair, and for the the D being "Dr. Trieu."
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poo poo maybe Hooded Justice is actually Veidt in disguise.
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Nail Rat posted:As much as I hate this twist, Cal having an "accident" was mentioned before ("Did she ask you about your accident?" "Didn't come up."). I feel like for that, that's enough foreshadowing. They don't need to say amnesia three times. You know there was an accident and it was in some way life altering. This was the one line that I had almost completely forgotten about but had always been nagging me. ...I'm still really skeptical that they're gonna make "the main character is Hooded Justice's granddaughter (oh also Dr. Manhattan is pretending to be her husband)" Not Dumb.
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So women with secret superhero sires is Jon’s very specific kink, huh
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Lmao https://twitter.com/yahya/status/1201345822853652480?s=21
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Does Dr. Manhattan experience all time at once, or just his own lifetime?
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