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If the Queen were to die, would the extra time in purdah be outweighed by 2 weeks of boris being a 'statesmen' ? Edit: 17th July 1917 Following a rebranding exercise the House of Windsor is born. JoylessJester fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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Guavanaut posted:I've got my No 4 cocks at the ready waiting for orders from Monty and Tubbo.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:27
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wocobob posted:Is it basically impossible at this point for Lab to take a couple points directly off the Tories? If "by this point" you mean "since 1920", yes. The Tory voting base is rock solid; they either vote Tory or they don't vote at all. Labour tend to win elections when the Tories do something that makes their base say "I can't vote for these people, but I'm not voting Labour". The reason the Tories have gone full fash is because for some time now they have been doing many things that would in a sane world make their base not vote for them - for example, killing one in 400 of the British population through grotesque and deliberate mismanagement. They have maintained power and support purely by turning "I can't vote for these people but I'm not voting Labour" into "I wouldn't vote for these people, but Labour must be stopped", along with some naked appeals to racism in the form of Brexit. This has led to the Orwellian situation where the current Labour leader is being attacked for anti-Semitism, while the most famous and enduring attack on his predecessor is the "look at this Jew trying to eat a bacon sandwich" photo.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:29
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bump_fn posted:shes fine i just moved and dont want to travbel far w a cat to the old vet We use a vet called PawSquad who come to your house. We are in North London, but I think they might have people who can go to Battersea. It is more expensive, but avoids traveling with a nervous cat.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:29
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https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1201084477730119680 Jess Phillips... good? 
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Dec 2, 2019 09:31
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Jess Phillips good on some issues. Especially women's issues. As long as those women aren't sex workers.quote:Jess Phillips: Prostitutes.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:35
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Braggart posted:https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1201084477730119680 https://twitter.com/MrColinHill/status/1201107878645501952 Boy howdy it's be a real shame if there were a spectacularly profiteering industry that exists to gouge people for the death of their relatives while providing virtually no service.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:37
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All the presenters on GMB wearing black :tinfoilhat:
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Dec 2, 2019 09:39
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Whenever I think of good things that have come from the unchecked free market I think of the funerary industry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5-NtLmKUDE
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Dec 2, 2019 09:39
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spiderbot posted:We use a vet called PawSquad who come to your house. We are in North London, but I think they might have people who can go to Battersea. It is more expensive, but avoids traveling with a nervous cat. I've used CTVets for home visits and they're very good, and only a tiny bit more than my normal vets.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:41
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That is not dead which can eternal lie which I interpret to mean boris is going to be just fine.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:42
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Guavanaut posted:Jess Phillips good on some issues. Especially women's issues. As long as those women aren't sex workers. I meant that she's making a good argument against privatisation and worship of the profit motive. I didn't expect that.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:43
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I think she's protesting the use of sex workers and prostitutes interchangeably, because while all prostitutes are sex workers not all sex workers are prostitutes. When the select committee comes out with a report on prostitutes specifically you can't assume its findings apply to any other kind of sex worker.
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Dec 2, 2019 09:45
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Guavanaut posted:Whenever I think of good things that have come from the unchecked free market I think of the funerary industry We need innovators to disrupt the market with professional mourner services! More pomp! More bloat! Show you really cared with our experienced banshee wailers! 
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Dec 2, 2019 09:46
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OwlFancier posted:https://twitter.com/MrColinHill/status/1201107878645501952 Braggart posted:We need innovators to disrupt the market with professional mourner services! More pomp! More bloat! Show you really cared with our experienced banshee wailers! And, as I think we talked about in previous threads, that's exactly what the Victorian funerary industry (and it really was an industry) did. All the marketing, commercial and social pressure of a modern consumer society in a vicious feedback loop telling everyone that they needed to pay for 300ft of black crepe, a full new wardrobe of mourning clothes, a ridiculously large polished wood coffin with silver fittings and that their recently departed family member really deserved the Seraphim-level package with the Portland headstone, the six black horses on the hearse, a dozen professional mourners and a mute, didn't they? And if you can't pay for it, we can do credit! And if you're poor, we run a savings scheme you can pay into most of your life and there's only a slightly-less-than-even chance that we'll taken the money and run because by the time you need the payout, you'll be dead! It was only the sheer scale of death in WW1, and the British military tradition of burying soldiers on the field of battle, that made that sort of commercialised, performative mourning not only impractical but crass. I dread to think how bad it would be now if it hadn't been disrupted in the proper sense of the term. [Awaits someone to tell me that it's actually still as bad in 2019, just not so flamboyantly obvious...]
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Dec 2, 2019 09:52
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Dec 2, 2019 09:52
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Braggart posted:We need innovators to disrupt the market with professional mourner services! More pomp! More bloat! Show you really cared with our experienced banshee wailers! Oh, it's already a thing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21479399 "For the entertainment portion, 30-year-old Liu and her Filial Daughters Band wear bright costumes, and perform almost-acrobatic dance numbers. They do the splits, back-bends, and somersaults. Her brother, A Ji, plays along on traditional stringed instruments. Later, Liu will change into a white hood and robe, and crawl to the coffin on her hands and knees. There, in time to her brother's organ playing, she performs her signature wail.  Liu's brother, A Ji, accompanies her at funerals Her sounds are long and drawn out, somewhere between crying and singing. At home, she demonstrates a typical wail for me. "My dear father, your daughter misses you so much!" she cries. "Please, please come back!""
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Dec 2, 2019 09:53
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Azza Bamboo posted:I think she's protesting the use of sex workers and prostitutes interchangeably, because while all prostitutes are sex workers not all sex workers are prostitutes. When the select committee comes out with a report on prostitutes specifically you can't assume its findings apply to any other kind of sex worker. Braggart posted:We need innovators to disrupt the market with professional mourner services! More pomp! More bloat! Show you really cared with our experienced banshee wailers!
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BalloonFish posted:And, as I think we talked about in previous threads, that's exactly what the Victorian funerary industry (and it really was an industry) did. All the marketing, commercial and social pressure of a modern consumer society in a vicious feedback loop telling everyone that they needed to pay for 300ft of black crepe, a full new wardrobe of mourning clothes, a ridiculously large polished wood coffin with silver fittings and that their recently departed family member really deserved the Seraphim-level package with the Portland headstone, the six black horses on the hearse, a dozen professional mourners and a mute, didn't they? And if you can't pay for it, we can do credit! And if you're poor, we run a savings scheme you can pay into most of your life and there's only a slightly-less-than-even chance that we'll taken the money and run because by the time you need the payout, you'll be dead! The London Necropolis Railway (  ) from Waterloo to Brockwood Cemetery had 1st, 2nd and 3rd class carriages not just for the mourners but for the coffins, because you definitely wouldn't want your dead granny having to share a carriage with some scabies-ridden oik.e: The company logo is even more 
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Red Oktober posted:Oh, it's already a thing. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/understanding-grief/201802/professional-mourners-ancient-tradition quote:Having paid mourners is an ancient tradition and has been found in many societies.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:00
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hitchensgoespop posted:All the presenters on GMB wearing black :tinfoilhat: Don’t do this to me while I’m stuck in work
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Dec 2, 2019 10:05
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Red Oktober posted:"For the entertainment portion, 30-year-old Liu and her Filial Daughters Band wear bright costumes, and perform almost-acrobatic dance numbers. They do the splits, back-bends, and somersaults. Her brother, A Ji, plays along on traditional stringed instruments. It's a bit of a break with royal funeral tradition, but the Queen made it very clear in writing not to announce anything until they made it through Customs.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:06
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labour manifesto grey book: Has anyone got a link to it? I can't find it.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:06
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:labour manifesto grey book: This one? https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Funding-Real-Change-1.pdf
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Dec 2, 2019 10:07
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Don’t do this to me while I’m stuck in work They're gonna have to weekend at bernies the queen through the state visit so they can save the embarassment of this going down in history as the gibbo accession.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:08
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20 minutes until Bazza and Parksie raise the Queen's corpse up the flagpole while chanting lads lads lads. Mandatory Jagerbombs at 10. Dicks out at 10:30.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:09
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OwlFancier posted:This one? Yes. Thanks.
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Feel free to scroll past this post, I just need to vent a touch. I was just watching a youtube video from a guy in Japan, and he was near one of the giant hornets they have over there, and it just reminded me of the only nightmare I've ever had/remembered in my adult life, and I have the heebie-jeebies now, so I'm hoping writing it down will make me feel better. In the nightmare, there was some kind of swarm of those japanese hornets. Real ones are typically under 5cm long, and about 5/6cm wingspan, but in the nightmare as well as all those size ones, there were massive ones, and one such one clamped itself onto the front of my face. Now, the real hornets can already be lethal with their stings if you're unlucky, so if this fucker in my dream had decided to sting I'd have been loving dead, and I just had to calmly walk around trying not to upset it for hours. I woke up before there was any resolution to the problem, and now when I hear about those hornets it's all I think of - me having a huge one of those stuck to my face, unable to do pretty much anything for fear of death.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:12
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When me mam died a few months back I think the overall costs were a little under 3k GBP, service, precession and cremation. Burials would've been almost double, if not more. I read an article shortly after booking the directors and found out Dundee is one of the costliest places to have a funeral, but since my Dad wanted a good send off for her, price was never an issue Still, rural Taiwanese know how to do funerals best. With strippers.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:13
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Would the queen dying mean a surge in Tory votes? Ugh, probably Also won’t it cost loads because we have to have a massive state funeral and also reprint our money?
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Dec 2, 2019 10:14
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15 minutes till the IRA make the final push
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Dec 2, 2019 10:15
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Calico Heart posted:Would the queen dying mean a surge in Tory votes? Ugh, probably Do you think they'll just bin all the new plastic £20 notes printed for next year?
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Dec 2, 2019 10:18
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Azza Bamboo posted:I think she's protesting the use of sex workers and prostitutes interchangeably, because while all prostitutes are sex workers not all sex workers are prostitutes. When the select committee comes out with a report on prostitutes specifically you can't assume its findings apply to any other kind of sex worker. My reading of that was that Victoria Aikens was taking her time and being meticulous in her use of words "Sex Worker" and "prostitution" in her detailed report. And was interrupted by Jess Phillips (and Sarah Champion) who took issue with the idea of using the words "sex workers." As in "don't you use that PC crap and call them sex workers. They are prostitutes and must be referred to as such. Afford those women no dignity at all."
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Dec 2, 2019 10:19
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xtothez posted:Do you think they'll just bin all the new plastic £20 notes printed for next year? I doubt it. When I were a lass and we still had the old money, sometimes we would get shillings or florins or half-crowns with King George on them. (God I feel old typing that!)
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Dec 2, 2019 10:20
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Everyone posted:Commercialisation of death and exploitation of the families I knew I could count on you lot 
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Dec 2, 2019 10:22
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Bleary-eyed Twitter folk preparing to hit F5....
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Dec 2, 2019 10:27
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Any london people doing Election Day in chingford?
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Kill All Cops posted:When me mam died a few months back I think the overall costs were a little under 3k GBP, service, precession and cremation. Burials would've been almost double, if not more. I read an article shortly after booking the directors and found out Dundee is one of the costliest places to have a funeral, but since my Dad wanted a good send off for her, price was never an issue That's a really wild expression of capitalism, for anyone not in the know. Got to get as many people attending your relative's funeral as possible, and the mafia runs the mortuary industry, so they've got strippers on discount.
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Gibbo I believed 
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