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jabby posted:Why do the lines for 2017 look different on those two graphs? Also the grey bar is when they traditionally hide the death of the queen
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marktheando posted:Do we have proof of life for the queen yet? The Queen lives on in the hearts of every God-fearing Briton
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If it had been someone else on the lefts turn as the token candidate in 2015, where do we think Corbyn would have been in the shadow cabinet? If Diane Abbott were Leader, or John McDonnell, for example. I couldn't see him at Shadow Chancellor. Home Secretary maybe.
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sebzilla posted:If it had been someone else on the lefts turn as the token candidate in 2015, where do we think Corbyn would have been in the shadow cabinet? If Diane Abbott were Leader, or John McDonnell, for example. I couldn't see him at Shadow Chancellor. Home Secretary maybe. had abbot or mcdonnell been on the ballot they'd almost certainly have lost - abbot actually had the previous election campaign.
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XMNN posted:and the only reason 30 year olds turned into twats in the 80s is because Thatcher gave them a bunch of government handouts to buy them off and turn them into home owning people with shares, but you can only asset strip the social housing stock and the utilities once, you loving moron Reminder that whatever they pretend to think, Right to Buy is still a thing and continuing it is a prominent commitment in the Tory manifesto.
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Feldegast42 posted:The Queen lives on in the hearts of every God-fearing Briton The Canadian mints also put out specialty coins at the drop of a hat, so I can't wait to see the memorial loonies that get struck
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CoolCab posted:had abbot or mcdonnell been on the ballot they'd almost certainly have lost - abbot actually had the previous election campaign. I'm not sure, they'd have still benefitted from the OMOV rule change and the general mood for socialism in the membership. I don't think Corbyn was uniquely capable of taking advantage of those factors. He might have done better since winning in 2015 than the other possibilities, though. Who else was even in that group? Skinner?
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ukle posted:This might be significant Does it really matter who leaked the documents? This smells an attempt to turn the conversation away from the content of the documents, which is bad for the tories, to "national security" bullshit.
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I don't think this was posted? https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/ipso-upholds-labour-activist-s-accuracy-complaint-against-jc-1.493698 It's quite convoluted but tl:dr (and I stand to be corrected!) is that the Jewish Chronicle took items at face value without checking and published unsubstantiated allegations against Audrey White. quote:Following publication of four articles headlined “Ex-Militant Tendency activist accused of bullying Louise Ellman lied about date of birth to rejoin Labour”, published online on 25 February 2019; “Plot to oust MP Ellman spearheaded by a former member of the Trotskyist Militant Tendency”, published online on 25 February 2019; “’Bullied’ Louise Ellman nears exit”, published in print on 1 March 2019; “Labour MP Dame Louise Ellman ‘considering her future’ in party amid rumours of more resignations”, published online on 1 March 2019, Audrey White complained to the Independent Press Standards Organisation that the Jewish Chronicle breached Clause 1 (Accuracy) of the Editors’ Code of Practice. The complaint was upheld, and IPSO required the Jewish Chronicle to publish this adjudication.
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CoolCab posted:had abbot or mcdonnell been on the ballot they'd almost certainly have lost - abbot actually had the previous election campaign. I think Jeremy Corbyn as a personal person is more liked generally by MPs than Abbot or McDonnell. Remember though it was at the last minute (literally!) that he got the last nomination needed to go on the ballot!
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/nickcohen4/status/1201430125612609536 https://twitter.com/OliverKamm/status/1201439416708935682?s=20 hmm what are Jewish people afraid will happen if Corbyn gets into power? pogroms? deportation? death camps? Oliver kamm posted:If Labour as it is currently constituted forms a majority government (an outcome that at this stage of the campaign looks extremely unlikely), then great swathes of the Jewish community will be fearful. What of? On this question, I can only give a speculative assessment but one that I’m convinced is true. it will prove everyone is antisemitic because they've decided he's antisemitic so voting for him is antisemitic because he's antisemitic? I'm genuinely puzzled as to what the conclusion of this article is meant to be
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James Nesbitt urging Arundel & South Downs to vote Labour: https://twitter.com/BellaSankey/status/1201532145136787462?s=20
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ukle posted:So the US trade documents leak is likely to have come from Russia, or someone who is working in exactly the same manner. Oh no, RUSSIA leaked the document Labour were trying to get released via a FOI request anyway  And if Corbyn was in the shadow cabinet he'd be foreign affairs, obviously. Denouncing foreign imperialism is one of his big things
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Miftan posted:And those checks are a lot less strict than the checks to see if you're Jewish if, for example, you want to marry another Jew in Israel. It's real easy because Israel is fighting a demographic war against the Palestinians all the time. Junior G-man posted:The stupidity of this election may, in fact, kill me. sebzilla posted:I'm not sure, they'd have still benefitted from the OMOV rule change and the general mood for socialism in the membership. I don't think Corbyn was uniquely capable of taking advantage of those factors. He might have done better since winning in 2015 than the other possibilities, though. Who else was even in that group? Skinner? XMNN posted:https://twitter.com/OliverKamm/status/1201439416708935682?s=20
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sebzilla posted:I'm not sure, they'd have still benefitted from the OMOV rule change and the general mood for socialism in the membership. I don't think Corbyn was uniquely capable of taking advantage of those factors. He might have done better since winning in 2015 than the other possibilities, though. Who else was even in that group? Skinner? we have a control for abbot - it wasn't OMOV but she still got 7% in 2010 . unfortunately a lifelong smear campaign, hysterically hostile press and the fact that a significant chunk of the country feels it's appropriate to poo poo up her mentions means she got painted exactly as the right wanted her painted and marginalized as such. mcdonnell has been (in my opinion) very, very extensively rehabilitated and given quite a lot of media coaching since 2015 and to be honest i still don't think the establishment buys it. dude's a radical, that's why he's so perfect as corbyn's attack dog, but as leader they'd have dig up their anti-militant handbook and crucify him with it. had to be corbyn, imo.
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Guavanaut posted:They've seemingly somehow managed to pin the increase in antisemitism leading up to 2015 (alt-right, pepes, chan culture, white nationalism, conservative bronies) on Corbyn. I've seen more than one melt claiming Corbyn's antisemitism drove David Milliband out of the party.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've seen more than one melt claiming Corbyn's antisemitism drove David Milliband out of the party. I thought he left in a fit of pique because Ed got the votes he expected. Ed's a good lad and it would be great if he was in the Cabinet when Labour win.
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Vit D3 chat, UK goons I recommend these: https://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/vitamin-d3-tablets-5000iu.html Cheap, good dose, I've used them for years. Be sure to take them with something fatty, or invest in some fish oil (krill oil is good, also available at above site) to take with it.
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ukle posted:This might be significant
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I thought he left in a fit of pique because Ed got the votes he expected. He did indeed, and 3 years before Corbyn was leader. The antisemitism was so powerful it reached back in time and banished him to The Phantom Zone (which is what I call the Davos circuit because it's full of loving intergalactic war criminals)
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Bardeh posted:man, i am fed up with the dark and the loving cold Fun fact: you need the supplements anyway from October to March even if you sat in the sun all day long, because the sun never reaches a high enough angle in the sky for the UV rays you need to penetrate the atmosphere and hit your skin
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've seen more than one melt claiming Corbyn's antisemitism drove David Milliband out of the party. Reminder that it was Jeremy Corbyn who went on BBC News defending Ralph Miliband in 2013 when the Mail were poo poo flinging at Red Ed https://twitter.com/visitingmartian/status/1157385113602318337
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've seen more than one melt claiming Corbyn's antisemitism drove David Milliband out of the party.   That's an amazing reimagining of history. 10 years time it'll be Corbyn who put up a statue of his ex-wife Nancy Astor, who invented antisemitism in the Physics department at Cambridge. Jaeluni Asjil posted:I thought he left in a fit of pique because Ed got the votes he expected.
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Thanks for Vitamin D recs comrades, I'll buy some on my way home from work tomorrow. I do get half an hour for lunch, and if it's not pissing it down I do step outside every couple of hours for a vape and to stretch my legs, but it's not much, and the weather has been so shite recently that more often than not I'd rather stay inside.
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Bardeh posted:Thanks for Vitamin D recs comrades, I'll buy some on my way home from work tomorrow. I have the same problem. It's a real effort to force myself to step outside in lovely weather. (But this is a feedback loop - the less you do it, the less you want to do it and the worse you feel. You have to get off the loop somehow and vit D definitely helps that). At least you're getting out for a vape. When I was a corporate slavey, even though I didn't smoke, I would take the breaks all the smokers took (1) because why should they get 5 weeks a year extra leave just because they smoke and (2) it was the most powerful network in the company with everyone from the postal clerk to the CEO puffing away on their addictions - a lot of decisions got made in the smokers' ghetto. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/NigelFarage_/status/1201514656860389377?s=20quote:"This is one of our key things. Asylum will not be granted to migrants who have entered the UK illegally from a safe country, such as France, Belgium or Ireland." quote:"When somebody lands on the beach in Dover or wherever they're landing, they say now, 'We're seeking asylum,' and they're in here, and all the rest of it. We can't keep them here. We can't. How many people can this country sustain?" lmao at ukip going full-on Day Today. also lmao at imagery of refugees paradropping onto Dover beaches like some immigration D-Day.
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Well, I guess we have confirmation...quote:Donald Trump sparks international incident by 'checking the Queen is alive'
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Guavanaut posted:They've seemingly somehow managed to pin the increase in antisemitism leading up to 2015 (alt-right, pepes, chan culture, white nationalism, conservative bronies) on Corbyn. "Somehow"? It's cost millions of man-hours of work and billions of dollars. How dare you demean their efforts! 
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I've Mandela Effected from the universe where Her Maj copped it as the tweet described, AMA
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Wachter posted:I've Mandela Effected from the universe where Her Maj copped it as the tweet described, AMA That's this universe, she's been dead since yesterday, and now they're running a big conspiratorial coverup to gently caress over Ricey and Gibbo.
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Ms Adequate posted:That's this universe, she's been dead since yesterday, and now they're running a big conspiratorial coverup to gently caress over Ricey and Gibbo. But... but I'm Gibbo 
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Wachter posted:I've Mandela Effected from the universe where Her Maj copped it as the tweet described, AMA Are you Ricey or Burnsy?
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Tell you what but if Labour can stop my loving rail fare going up every year I will name my first child Jeremy.
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CyberPingu posted:Can someone explain how devolved powers work. E.g how much of Labours awesome plan to save the country would apply to Scotland if the SNP or whoever are in charge? Basically devolved administration's get money representing the increase in public spending in England on area under the devolved competencies of the regional governments but are not bound to spend it according to how it is spent in England - so for example here in NI things like Labours transport and education policies won't apply as these matters are devolved so the executive receives money proportional to how much is being spent in England but can spend it as they see fit.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I have the same problem. It's a real effort to force myself to step outside in lovely weather. Particularly when you lock yourself out
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Long time lurker  ing for almost the first time.Went out canvassing around Middlesbrough South for the first time was suprisingly straightforward once I found the group. Was a generally even mix of responses. Was pretty quick as well was done in just over an hour, if anyone was wondering how long it takes and you can drop in and out as you need to. It was a good walk gonna do it again tomorrow gonna smash this election grab all the marginals. Also amazing and worrying thought that so much of my politcal knowledge comes from this forum. Effortposts the best form of agitprop. Ugh I post so little I forgot I had this garbage avatar. Need to correct that. <<<
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Dad's hot takes keep on rolling. "Labour's just full of unemployed people who want a free handout from the hard working Tory voters who'll pay for it all." Thanks dad.
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kustomkarkommando posted:Basically devolved administration's get money representing the increase in public spending in England on area under the devolved competencies of the regional governments but are not bound to spend it according to how it is spent in England - so for example here in NI things like Labours transport and education policies won't apply as these matters are devolved so the executive receives money proportional to how much is being spent in England but can spend it as they see fit.   Azza Bamboo posted:Dad's hot takes keep on rolling.
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