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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/AmericaElige/status/1201515175716765696

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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Pinera's low approval rating proves that he's no threat to democratic order and the right man for the job, unlike the dangerous Morales and AMLO who prop themselves up with being popular thanks to good governance

-WaPo, probably

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!



no poo poo? lmao

Can't wait to tell this guy:

Ruzihm posted:


quote:

It's cause he ran for a third term when the constitution said he could not. There was a referendum to amend the constitution to allow the president to serve more than 2 terms, which the people voted against. Morales then had his hand selected judges to rule he could serve unlimited terms. That pissed off the people of Bolivia and rightfully so.

The election results were shady af. When the results were being reported the election was close. Then there was a period of 24 hours when they weren't being reported and after that Morales magically had over a 10% lead, which means he'd win the election outright and no second round. The people of Bolivia were understandably upset and riots and protests have occurred. Not very shocking.

Morales had his judges overrule the peoples vote against amending the constitution and then ran for the third term and won by fraudulent results. It's not a coup d'etat in any sense whatsoever. Saying it's a coup d'etat is idiotically retarded. It'd be like if a president in the US, say Donald Trump, running for a third term regardless of the constitution and packing the votes to win. The people would demand he be removed and removing him. That wouldn't be a coup.

It would seem like the Marxist analysis of the "People's World" are just blindly taking the word of a wannabe authoritarian and supporting him. I'm not surprised at all lol

Saw this one on Facebook

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
maybe the real coup was the friends we made along the way

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The US is going to help stop stop protestsriots in right wing countries in the region

quote:

Pompeo says U.S. will help prevent Latin American protests becoming riots

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Monday accused Cuba and Venezuela of attempting to hijack democratic protests in Latin America, vowing that Washington would support countries trying to prevent unrest in the region from turning into riots.

Amid recent demonstrations in a number of countries in the region, Pompeo stepped up allegations that Cuba and Venezuela had helped stir up unrest but offered few specifics to back his comments.

Pompeo cited recent political protests in Bolivia, Chile, Colombia and Ecuador and said that Colombia had closed its border to Venezuela out of concern that protesters from the neighboring country would enter.

“We in the Trump administration will continue to support countries trying to prevent Cuba and Venezuela from hijacking those protests and we’ll work with legitimate (governments) to prevent protests from morphing into riots and violence that don’t reflect the democratic will of the people,” Pompeo told an audience at the University of Louisville, in Kentucky.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-idUSKBN1Y61QC

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

The Guardian is willing to publish open letters with tons of outside signatories telling the truth about Bolivia but their own coverage is all "clashes" and "disputed elections" and "interim president"

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

vyelkin posted:

The Guardian is willing to publish open letters with tons of outside signatories telling the truth about Bolivia but their own coverage is all "clashes" and "disputed elections" and "interim president"

Most of the people in charge of the Guardian are spooks who have praised the UK ministry of defence D-notice process (prior restraint spiking stories before publication) and serve on the "collaborative" committee between the MoD and the press:

https://twitter.com/DCKennard/status/1138493594728304640?s=20

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
i lust for the blood of gusanos

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Fast Luck posted:

https://twitter.com/OliviaArigho/status/1200893793224052737
Big ups to Jhanisse Daza and her StandingRivers environmentalists on their victory.
afaik Extinction Rebellion, whose banner was flown to organize protests across europe against bolivian embassies right before the coup under this environmental concern trolling, has not disavowed any of this (although they made sure to kill an XR socialists chapter)

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


comedyblissoption posted:

afaik Extinction Rebellion, whose banner was flown to organize protests across europe against bolivian embassies right before the coup under this environmental concern trolling, has not disavowed any of this (although they made sure to kill an XR socialists chapter)

Yeah, that was Jhannise Daza's work. And don't kid yourself, none of them even know about this. They aren't paying attention.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

them being completely ignorant that their name was used to try to greenwash a literal fascist coup is the best possible outcome, but this greenwashing was coordinated with major newspaper publications tying the XR name to these protests against bolivia lol

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Hey, I'm currently reading up on the history of Latin America. I just got done reading Open Veins and wanted to know if there was anything similar written for the last 50 years.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/camilapress/status/1201731794523037696?s=20

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Tiny Caribbean islands count as Latin America right?

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1201681766563667968

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa0dZMHYeE

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

brugroffil posted:

Pinera's low approval rating proves that he's no threat to democratic order and the right man for the job, unlike the dangerous Morales and AMLO who prop themselves up with being popular thanks to good governance

-WaPo, probably

You jest, but the way they usually frame this is that the popularity results from an aversion to making _~hard choices~_ (i.e. cutting benefits like a responsible adult). The shorthand for this is the word "populist" that's used in a derogatory fashion with the added bonus that it conflates right-populism and left-populism in people's minds.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


But does that Strongman's populism play well in his supporters' strongholds, or just with the party loyalists he's packed government with??



The language US newspapers use to cover these other countries could very easily be applied to other "Western" countries and especially the untied states itself, but never is :thunk:

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

Emmanuel Macron's plan for France adds bewilderment to despair: Many Frenchmen adamant peaceful solution is no longer possible

Macron was seeking reassurance yesterday from his American ally Donald Trump, who is seen as a strongman broadly unpopular at home but adept in exploiting the country's intense sectarian divides. Rallying his supporters from local militias last year, he denounced pro-Democracy protesters as "rapists, murderers" and maintained his critics should be "locked up". International rights organizations have sounded the alarm over the country's overcrowded labor camps where inmates are often kept in unsanitary conditions, separated from family and prevented from contacting the outside world.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

420 Gank Mid posted:

Tiny Caribbean islands count as Latin America right?

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1201681766563667968

may I request context for what government is currently in power and who the opposition is? the opposition party is called “United workers party” iirc but that doesn’t mean anything I suppose.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Extremely wikipedia based research:

The United Workers' Party is a centrist political party in Dominica. As of the 2009 general election, it is the only opposition party represented in the House of Assembly of Dominica, holding three of the twenty-one seats. Its past Leader of the Opposition in the Assembly is Hector John.


In the 2000 election, the UWP were defeated by the DLP, led by left-leaning Roosevelt P. "Rosie" Douglas; however Douglas died after only a few months in office.[14][28][29] He was replaced by Pierre Charles, who also died in office in January 2004.[14] Roosevelt Skerrit, also of the DLP, replaced Charles as Prime Minister, becoming the worlds youngest head of state.[14] Under Skerrit's leadership, the DLP won elections in May 2005 that gave the party 12 seats in the 21-member Parliament, to the UWP's 8 seats. An independent candidate affiliated with the DLP won a seat as well. Later, the independent candidate joined the government and one UWP member crossed the aisle, making the total 14 seats for the DLP and 7 for the UWP.[16]

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

He’s Labour. If Camila is reporting sympathetically on him and OAS is trying to sabotage his elections that makes it pretty clear who’s who. Kind of darkly amusing she also retweeted the PM of Suriname currently making the same kind of complaints. CIA knives out for 1000-Twitter-follower PMs of tiny island nations

PS - everyone in this thread should subscribe to Camila’s patreon if you have the money. TeleSUR can’t pay her anymore because of US sanctions but she’s still reporting from all these places.

https://twitter.com/camilapress/status/1201159015151079426

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


an entire country of population 71k lmao


that's like a small city, but as a whole country


must be wild

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

brugroffil posted:

But does that Strongman's populism play well in his supporters' strongholds, or just with the party loyalists he's packed government with??



The language US newspapers use to cover these other countries could very easily be applied to other "Western" countries and especially the untied states itself, but never is :thunk:

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


lmao that is still the provided definition, incredible


meanwhile in the US we have no less than three billionaires running for President and that's after another lovely billionaire dropped out already lmao

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

brugroffil posted:

an entire country of population 71k lmao


that's like a small city, but as a whole country


must be wild

literally smaller than my hometown in podunk Wisconsin lol

also ty thread for answers

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

brugroffil posted:

an entire country of population 71k lmao


that's like a small city, but as a whole country


must be wild

tiny island nations like Dominica are way more legit than feudal holdovers like The Vatican or Monaco

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


for sure it's just hard for me to conceive of living in a metro area that small let alone an entire country (have lived in or near Chicago my whole life)

nothing at all wrong with being a tiny island nation just completely outside of my experience

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

Sometimes at work I would get on Google maps and just look at islands around the world and just imagine what it's like to be that isolated

camera pans out to me, ironically, alone at a desk

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
fun fact about the tiny island nation of Dominica: a group of US white supremacists and neo-Nazis, including a genuine German Nazi and one of the guys who would later found the website Stormfront, attempted to invade the island in 1981 in order to set up a white colonialist utopia. They had a bunch of business contacts in apartheid South Africa whose help they intended to enlist to bring in a steady stream of weapons and volunteers once they'd established a foothold, in exchange for giving those business contacts preferential treatment when deciding how to divide up the island's resources for 'development'.

Dominica does technically have some white people in it but they're a vanishingly tiny minority, a thousand or so people at most, so the plan would have involved importing large numbers of white people from the US and South Africa (targeting Rhodesian exiles in particular was apparently part of the plan) in order to establish a South African style apartheid government. They assumed they'd be able to get away with it because the Dominican government was broadly left-wing and intended to frame their actions as a crusade against communism; they even found a disgruntled ex-Prime Minister who was willing to serve as a puppet leader of their 'rebellion' to give it some legitimacy. They figured if they could play up the anticommunist angle, get some big business figures on their side, have a local figurehead providing a veneer of legitimacy, and win quickly, they could get the US to recognize their new government.

fortunately for humanity and unfortunately for them, they were all idiots. They managed to get a pretty big pile of supplies - weapons, ammunition, explosives, military uniforms, helmets, rubber dinghies with outboard motors, and swastika flags - but they didn't have any way to get them from New Orleans to Dominica. They decided to rent a boat. Rather than telling the guy they were renting it from some bullshit story about using it for a fishing trip or something, they told him they needed his boat for a secret CIA operation, and the guy immediately called the cops. Their initial invasion party was arrested on the dock as they were preparing to leave.

none of them spent more than five years in jail because it turns out there is very little the US government is unwilling to excuse so long as you're doing it in the service of white supremacy

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

They probably could have just asked the US for money and guns right at the beginning.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14738 posted:

Caracas, December 5, 2019 (venezuelanalysis.com) - The president of the International Federation of the Red Cross (IFRC) has criticized the “unacceptable” politicization of humanitarian aid to Venezuela.

Speaking in a press conference in Geneva on Monday, Francesco Rocca denounced a lack of funding for the organization’s programs in Venezuela.

"This is not about resources, this is about political will," he told reporters, adding that less than ten percent of the IFRC’s September US $50 million emergency appeal had been met.

Rocca went on to state that aid programs run by United Nations agencies and other international actors in Venezuela were being likewise underfunded, slamming the privation of aid “as a tool to destabilize the country.”

The Red Cross chief drew comparisons with other countries, pointing out that the organization’s $12 million funding appeal for the Bahamas following a hurricane in September was surpassed by $8 million within ten days. He added that “it’s easier to receive funds for Syria and even for Yemen.”

“I cannot imagine any other explanation except political will for the creation of this situation on the ground” he concluded, while also dismissing the idea that the Venezuelan government is blocking access to aid.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the US really hates the global south :(

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Only when it forgets its place and gets too uppity.

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016


Google News could only find a single mention of this apart from Venezuelanalysis'. Of course it inserts a pile of weasel language, but in case anyone needs a link to an imperialist source:

https://www.france24.com/en/20191202-red-cross-slams-unacceptable-politicisation-of-venezuela-aid

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

Addamere posted:

the US really hates the global south :(

It kind of hates poor people everywhere, including within its own borders.

duomo
Oct 9, 2007




Soiled Meat
didn’t even take a full page https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1202698671504216064

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

"A court packed with loyalists gave him a green light to run indefinitely."

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.
a country packed with loyalists, too

37 loving votes? that's the definitive proof? like what the gently caress

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

thankfully Real Democracies never have courts packed with Loyalists making decisions affecting the outcome of presidential elections

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Nov 15, 2003

comedyblissoption posted:

thankfully Real Democracies never have courts packed with Loyalists making decisions affecting the outcome of presidential elections

never happened. marbury v madison was a gentlemans' disagreement lesser civilizations cannot comprehend

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