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galagazombie posted:Onix really is a masterful case of teaching through gameplay. Look how his design is so tied to his role in Gen 1. His stats are actually bad because he's the first boss, his typing is specifically made to teach kids to not just select Tackle. His moveset with Bide is meant to teach you that sometimes you should use you're buffs/debuffs and status moves instead of always selecting a damage move, and his design of being a giant intimidating rock serpent shows you the game is going to move on to crazy stuff beyond just little lizards and pigeons. Honestly he should get a massive buff out of respect for his role as Pokemon's first boss. Especially now since he no longer has to serve that role. Also he looks cooler than Steelix so he should be good on that basis alone. 
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Scyther and Scizor have the same stat total. Do it gamefreak. Buff Onix up to Steelix's BST
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Dec 3, 2019 00:26
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Dexit's not a big deal for me, but some of their decisions are a little baffling. Example: we got fifty Water/Ground types (all with similar abilities), but no room for Heracross apparently.
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Dec 3, 2019 00:32
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Gonna be home in about 30 minutes. I got a bunch of breedject Farfetched with it's hidden ability. Most in luxury balls, others in ultra. Anyone want or need one?
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Dec 3, 2019 00:45
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I just had to send my left joycon in for repairs because it wasn't charging-- does the casual controls setting let you move the camera in the wild area at all?
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Dec 3, 2019 01:09
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Will the official Nintendo tournaments still have Dynamax? It’s going to be hilarious to see those unfold. I thought Smogon and VGC were always two entirely separate things.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:09
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Bell_ posted:I thought Smogon and VGC were always two entirely separate things. They are, so unless even Nintendo realizes how poorly balanced dynamaxing is it's gonna be allowed at VGC, so get ready for the World Championships to be a clusterfuck.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:15
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I really wish Galarian Corsola was Rock/Ghost instead of just Ghost. We don’t have a Rock/Ghost yet and even dead coral is still a mineral.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:20
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BearDrivingTruck posted:I just had to send my left joycon in for repairs because it wasn't charging-- does the casual controls setting let you move the camera in the wild area at all? I'd say go get a wired controller you can plug into the USB port. I use those half the time anyway. Like a gamecube controller.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:24
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Nessa posted:I really wish Galarian Corsola was Rock/Ghost instead of just Ghost. We don’t have a Rock/Ghost yet and even dead coral is still a mineral. I feel like there's been so many chances for a ghost/rock type. Sableye could've had the type (dark/ghost is cooler though), Cofagrigus could've been it, Stakataka could've had it (and kept the paired-theme with Blacephelon), Stojourner could've been it Cursola could've gotten it if not kept it from G-corsola. Runerigus certainly looks like it and has more moves for it
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Dec 3, 2019 01:33
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TaurusOxford posted:They are, so unless even Nintendo realizes how poorly balanced dynamaxing is it's gonna be allowed at VGC, so get ready for the World Championships to be a clusterfuck. Dynamax seems more balanced in Doubles from what I gather, at least, and VGC is doubles all the way.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:34
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Does anyone have the guide for Pokemon by badge/level availability? I swear there was a chart outlining where/when you could get stuff. I know Serebii has all the Wild Area groups listed but it's formatted really inconveniently and not helpful for what I want to know.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:43
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Ultima66 posted:On another note, the suspect test thread for Dynamax is now up: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-ss-ou-suspect-process-round-1-boom-boom-pow.3657265/ Every competitive game has had a revision that feels “unfair” to pros. Capcom fighting games have done it a lot. People hold up Dota 2 as some masterclass of game balancing, but there have been patches like that one Troll Warlord patch that made pros stream other games in protest. It happens.
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Dec 3, 2019 01:50
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Craptacular! posted:Who gives a poo poo about these people and their weird council of elders approach to their own tournament. All they’re going to do is make themselves even more useless as a source of information for builds/battling for the average player who wants the equivalent of a Hearthstone “netdeck” to play other scrubs online. There’s also a 50-50 chance at least that they end up with a meta game that is boring as gently caress with heavy turtling and defense due to the combination of dexit and their own decisions. Some goonsay nerd posted:In addition to the buffs given, any Pokemon can Dynamax and it does not require an item to utilize. Dynamaxing Pokemon have absurd buffs, and the player has absolute luxury to use them whenever they so please. This allows for an abundance of randomness and a lack of skillful gameplay. This absolutely reads like someone whining that their method of doing something, where all the steps are known to every player, might be changed. And that person is very salty about it.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:01
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smogon have taken a game series that has insane competitive potential and a dev team that literally throws poo poo at the wall and sees what sticks and turned it more than a decade of real and fun formats. gently caress outta here
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Dec 3, 2019 02:03
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I can understand banning Dynamaxing, but this is... huh??quote:Dynamaxing Pokemon have absurd buffs, and the player has absolute luxury to use them whenever they so please. This allows for an abundance of randomness and a lack of skillful gameplay. Like, they do have "absurd buffs", but both players have access to those buffs so it's not like one side is vastly different from the other? You also can't use them whenever you please, you have a three turn limit on Dynamaxing and you can only use it once per battle so you have to be strategic for when you use it. There's absolutely zero randomness involved?? 
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ungulateman posted:smogon have taken a game series that has insane competitive potential and a dev team that literally throws poo poo at the wall and sees what sticks and turned it more than a decade of real and fun formats. gently caress outta here Well, this sure doesn't sound like anyone who likes competition. This sounds like it was written by a grognard who will toss a controller if they lost in SSBU and scream about purity or something.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:11
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What is this generation's preferred catching monster? I only bothered to catch about 15 mons during the campaign because
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Some of the arguments are poorly written like that one but the core among the better written ones is that it overemphasizes the skill of guessing when the opponent is going to dynamax, at the expense of other, more fun gameplay. The player who is good at guessing dynamax timing but worse at other aspects of the game will beat the player who is better at everything else. Or so they claim, I don't play on showdown
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Left Ventricle posted:What is this generation's preferred catching monster? I only bothered to catch about 15 mons during the campaign because Gallade is still good for non-raids, Eternatus for raids.
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Macaluso posted:I can understand banning Dynamaxing, but this is... huh?? pretty sure that person doesn't know how to distinguish 'randomness' from 'unpredictability'. in gen 6, mega evolution was generally insanely busted, but it takes up an item slot and the pokemon that are able to mega evolve are predefined, so you can plan around it. dynamax doesn't require the item slot and literally any pokemon on your team can use it. cheetah7071 posted:Some of the arguments are poorly written like that one but the core among the better written ones is that it overemphasizes the skill of guessing when the opponent is going to dynamax, at the expense of other, more fun gameplay. The player who is good at guessing dynamax timing but worse at other aspects of the game will beat the player who is better at everything else. Or so they claim, I don't play on showdown yeah this is definitely the relevant factor here. it's a mechanic that is fundamentally overcentralising, and it doesn't even have the opportunity costs that mega evolutions or z-moves had. ungulateman fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Dec 3, 2019 |
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CainFortea posted:This absolutely reads like someone whining that their method of doing something, where all the steps are known to every player, might be changed. And that person is very salty about it. The smogon people read like angry Twitter #BBNDers who haven’t realized it yet. They’re trying to wring a balanced playstyle out of a game that may not actually have one. You can kind of tell when someone laments the absence of Chansey or some other departed mon that could control some part of the balance. They’re trying to preserve the balance they had from past gens instead of just accepting that this is a mich more wild, anything goes sort of game, and Dexit is certainly part of that since they’re working with a more limited set of monsters and moves. My favorite part of the debate is when someone says, “hey these Gigantamax mons are mostly pretty okay, since they’re identified from the get go and don’t have this drama of anything and everything being buffed.” And then someone says, “but that’s arbitrary” and apparently one of the political leaders of the forum agrees with them. As if these decisions aren’t arbitrary to start. It’s basically a more intellectual form of #BBND hate-posting.
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I finally beat the story. My thoughts: * I liked it. Also Pokemon Memories owns (Spoilers).
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Aren't Gigantamax Pokemon banned from online play anyway, so making them legal would just make a metagame with them even less accurate to the ingame one?
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Abundant Atrophy posted:I feel like there's been so many chances for a ghost/rock type. Yeah, Runerigus would have been a good choice for that too. Wasted opportunity.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:22
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Left Ventricle posted:What is this generation's preferred catching monster? I only bothered to catch about 15 mons during the campaign because Gallade, equip with false swipe and thunder wave.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:22
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Even without dynamaxing, stall, and by extension any bit of defensive play is at its absolute weakest this gen since a ton of walls got taken out, and a lot more heavy hitting Pokemon got introduced.
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ungulateman posted:Aren't Gigantamax Pokemon banned from online play anyway, so making them legal would just make a metagame with them even less accurate to the ingame one? They’re banned from the online tournament Nintendo is running and from VGC, probably because they’re intended to be timed events, rare captures, and some are paywalled like the Let’s Go twosome. The argument is bankrupt because fundamentally these people are making their own rules that are different from Nintendo’s anyway, so it must be asked if the point to make rules that are Nintendo compliant or to be better than those. They already allow at least one mon from a timed promotion that hasn’t been seen in twenty years, so obviously they have different priorities than Nintendo does.
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Craptacular! posted:The smogon people read like angry Twitter #BBNDers who haven’t realized it yet. They’re trying to wring a balanced playstyle out of a game that may not actually have one. You can kind of tell when someone laments the absence of Chansey or some other departed mon that could control some part of the balance. Completely different issues, Smogon has been wrangling out something more or less balanced with focus on non-VGC formats and most importantly 6vs6 for years now. If it needs to remove the gimmick of the generation because the gimmick itself is busted and for each gimmick abuser that gets banned another one pops up, then so be it.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:27
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Craptacular! posted:They’re banned from the online tournament Nintendo is running and from VGC, probably because they’re intended to be timed events, rare captures, and some are paywalled like the Let’s Go twosome. Wait, what promotion is that?
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TeenageArchipelago posted:Wait, what promotion is that? Wish Chansey/Blissey, I guess. All the way from Gen 3.
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qnqnx posted:Completely different issues, Smogon has been wrangling out something more or less balanced with focus on non-VGC formats and most importantly 6vs6 for years now. They can do what they want with their own ladder system. But if your guides and theorycrafying is going to assume the gimmick of the generation doesn’t exist, it’s not useful to most players. If I come across as salty, it’s because I’m new to the game and not aware of any other place to look for build crafting and information for how to make the most of my favorites. Even Google searches for “(monstername) build” is going to turn up their forum. They’re cutting a hell of a lot out of the game to fit their own pleasure.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:34
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They still make writeups for the official online formats. Even the 3v3 singles one where some sets actually recommend OHKO moves.
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Here's the hot tip Craptacular so you can stop cry posting. Most of the sets for sweepers are gonna be the same if you DMax or not. The only thing that you might change is drop a coverage move to put on something that raises a stat the pokemon likes instead of going for pure coverage, but probably not. Also Dynamaxing sucks rear end, it's got all the same power as Mega Evolutions but you come out of it with massive boosts you get for just attacking so basically the already good sweepers/clean up pokemon are just better than anything else cause of course you're gonna DMax them because putting buffs on an already strong pokemon is just better (Ignoring the whole, doubling HP and upping defenses meaning things that could have killed you before can't). Megas at least usually had some gimmick to them and took up your item slot. Dmaxing is just....playing around the already OP/Top tier pokes and making them even stronger. It blows rear end and that we lost the gimmick that at least made some old lovely pokemon way more viable (RIP Mega Pinsir, Altariar, Lopunny, and Beedrill) for it is just salt in the wound.
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Making a tournament format to your liking is fine. You don't want to deal with another layer of complexity, then so be it. People can play their games in whatever manner sparks joy for them. But trying to say it's somehow "random" or unfair or whatever is laughable.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Here's the hot tip Craptacular so you can stop cry posting. Most of the sets for sweepers are gonna be the same if you DMax or not. The only thing that you might change is drop a coverage move to put on something that raises a stat the pokemon likes instead of going for pure coverage, but probably not. Basically this. Dynamaxing is an awful mechanic that has too much weight attached to it. Even in doubles where it's more balanced it's still overwhelming and the game would be more interesting without it. As for megas the pokemon that needed the viability boost should just get new perma evos so we don't have to deal with gimmick creep.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It blows rear end and that we lost the gimmick that at least made some old lovely pokemon way more viable (RIP Mega Pinsir, Altariar, Lopunny, and Beedrill) for it is just salt in the wound. To be fair, they compensated by deleting said old lovely Pokemon.
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Eimi posted:Basically this. Dynamaxing is an awful mechanic that has too much weight attached to it. Even in doubles where it's more balanced it's still overwhelming and the game would be more interesting without it. No cause imagining loving Mega Metagross with an item is just....a nightmare. Got Banded Mega Pinsir just pressing Feint all day. A nightmare world.
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Dec 3, 2019 02:55
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Where do people tend to follow their formats anyway? I enjoy their tiers since I suck at builds, but if I'm playing a linked battle over Nintendo's system, what's to stop me from using dynamax?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:No cause imagining loving Mega Metagross with an item is just....a nightmare. Well it should be balanced to be a normal mon and not a mega obviously, if it just had mega stats yeah that'd be terrible.
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