|
Two articles? That's all? Am I seeing that correctly?
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 5, 2024 23:13 |
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:for those of you wondering "who is saying this" Lol, no
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:38
|
|
|
Posting at the voices in my head. Hand me a lance, I have windmills to murder.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:39
|
|
|
Rent-A-Cop posted:Posting at the voices in my head. <statement of a thing that happened historically> remind me, I wonder, hmmm, who could that be, wasn't it, isn't that interesting, curious that
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:42
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1201940193235865605 https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1201949082350080000 White House response basically "I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and...I like to kiss my own butt."
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:44
|
|
|
cr0y posted:Two articles? That's all? Am I seeing that correctly? Two general topics each containing a number of individual wrongdoings assembled into a narrative. This is not the actual Articles of Impeachment that will be voted on by the full House and passed to the Senate, there are more steps and possibly more reports before those appear.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:45
|
|
|
cr0y posted:Two articles? That's all? Am I seeing that correctly? Edit: also the articles of impeachment will likely be only three articles - supposedly all the ignored subpoenas, for example, will get grouped together under Obstruction. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Dec 3, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:46
|
|
|
theflyingorc posted:I don't know what argument you think you're having, but it isn't what's happening. consider the dire threat of falling for whataboutism. think about what falling for whataboutism looks like, and how, if at all, it differs from someone convincing you an issue is higher priority than the one you're currently focused on. the attack "whataboutism" serves, exclusively, to characterize the attempt to bring up other concerns as an inherently suspect action. bad faith attempts to mislead exist. and should be watched for. the John Birch Society, and its warnings of communist agent Martin Luther King, are an example to remind you that one of those bad faith efforts to mislead takes the form of "if you listen to this you're just doing what the Russians want you to do." whataboutism is a thought terminating cliche and should be treated as such.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:46
|
|
|
Ah ok thanks the above goons who clarified how this works for me.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:47
|
|
|
The only whataboutism I'm concerned with is what about all these badposts about whataboutism when the House Intelligence Committee report just dropped and appears to basically be Trumpcrimes.docx
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:49
|
|
|
But what about deeze nuts in your mouth?
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:50
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/1201834956160413697?s=20
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:50
|
|
|
Yeah yeah Popehat I know but for the three ppl here he hasn't blocked here's what happened re: Duncan Hunter's guilty plea: https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1201943744586506240?s=21 tl;dr: Gov't is cutting him a reeeeal sweet deal but prison time's still likely.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:55
|
|
|
Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:consider the dire threat of falling for whataboutism. think about what falling for whataboutism looks like, and how, if at all, it differs from someone convincing you an issue is higher priority than the one you're currently focused on. I really want you to know that I didn't read this, but that whataboutism is not simply "a thing is bad", but rather using it in response to a specific criticism in order to deflect from that criticism. For instance, the fact that your posts are very bad should not detract from the fact that my posts are very bad.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:56
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1201911233852723201 https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1201948934031265793 https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1201856329691914246 https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/1197334345717100545
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:56
|
|
|
This conclusion is absolute nonsense. PM levels in the south (and Texas even) have continued to decline even as industrial activity (and truck traffic) has picked up. The only increases are in the west, predominately in California, where the state leads 99% of enforcement efforts. Almost all EPA enforcement under the CAA are major incident related, criminal charges (e.g. single site dumping) or administrative. The driver for this increase is 99% due to wildfires. Wildfires are absolutely influenced by climate change, but that's hardly a Trump specific development. Trump is awful and the changes at EPA are not good, but these two things (PM levels and EPA funding) have exactly jack poo poo to do with each other over any couple of years timeframe
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 20:57
|
|
|
oxsnard posted:This conclusion is absolute nonsense. PM levels in the south (and Texas even) have continued to decline even as industrial activity (and truck traffic) has picked up. The only increases are in the west, predominately in California, where the state leads 99% of enforcement efforts. Almost all EPA enforcement under the CAA are major incident related, criminal charges (e.g. single site dumping) or administrative. The driver for this increase is 99% due to wildfires. Wildfires are absolutely influenced by climate change, but that's hardly a Trump specific development. Trump is awful and the changes at EPA are not good, but these two things (PM levels and EPA funding) have exactly jack poo poo to do with each other over any couple of years timeframe That would explain this tweet from him an hour later: https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/1201836081550893057?s=20
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:07
|
|
|
Tayter Swift posted:Yeah yeah Popehat I know but for the three ppl here he hasn't blocked here's what happened re: Duncan Hunter's guilty plea: Somehow I don't think putting the guy who committed crimes to buy more videogames is exactly going to feel punished by home detention for half of a sentence that might not even last a year.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:14
|
|
|
Why did they need to “cut a deal” for a guy who didn’t bother hiding any of his crimes?
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:14
|
|
|
Fallom posted:Why did they need to “cut a deal” for a guy who didn’t bother hiding any of his crimes?
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:16
|
|
|
marshmonkey posted:That would explain this tweet from him an hour later: yeah, I mean, I'm not excusing the Trump admin by any stretch but any "expert" who claims that enforcement actions by EPA can cause drastic changes in actual emissions levels like this has zero idea of how the clean air act is designed, implemented or enforced.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:16
|
|
|
Fallom posted:Why did they need to “cut a deal” for a guy who didn’t bother hiding any of his crimes? Because he's rich and white. Oh and a Veteran. so clearly he's a good boy. So we'll accept his one guilty count of misusing campaign funds, throw out the other 59 or so of other crimes, and he'll have learned his lesson! 
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:17
|
|
|
Cutting a deal keeps him from fighting this. God knows how many other steam related crimes he committed.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:20
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:In this context it’s especially dangerous because we’ve made promises to countries to protect them that we cannot and should not keep, nor should we have ever made those promises to begin with. NATO is, in many respects, the greatest bluff in human history, but what happens when it’s called? So, I'm just going to point out here that the only time this bluff had been called and Article 5 was invoked was for Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11. Mutual defense is just that, mutual. It isn't a completely one-sided arrangement and it never has been despite what people have said about it. NATO has been, mainly, a deterrent. Secondary, it allows allies in those partner nations to train and support their own defense forces to allow for greater autonomy, and it has worked well in those roles. It is meant to be a method for stability because wars, in general, suck. NATO is not perfect. Even in the best of times there are issues to be addressed about shared costs and the values of certain nations (looking at you Turkey) contrasting with the stated mission. But the current trend away from it weakens our partners and advances the cause of one of our direct competitors at their expense, and that isn't even factoring in the nuclear weapon angle. Even from the 'cynical self-enrichment' side, the fact that western European states could count on shared defense meant closer cooperation and greater access to trade which brought in profits hand over fist. NATO paid back what was put in my providing a stable market to feed a capatalist engine and directly stood against 'the godless reds' to further entrench American power and position. It was clearly a net gain in both money and power. We made those promises based on the ideal that another war in Europe would be catastrophic, and later grew to seeing the expansion and fostering of autonomy in nations as the Soviet Union fell. It has paid us back several times over in trade alone, and has led to nations like Estonia, Poland, the Baltic States and the former Yugoslav states to stand on their own rights. Even Russia benefitted from NATO under the 1994 peace pact, which only ended with the Ukraine annexation in 2014. So, yeah, gonna call this entire argument right here bullshit. J.A.B.C. fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Dec 3, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:21
|
|
|
He wasn’t actually rich, but being white and having powerful friends is good enough I guess.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:23
|
|
|
Angry_Ed posted:Because he's rich and white. Oh and a Veteran. so clearly he's a good boy. So we'll accept his one guilty count of misusing campaign funds, throw out the other 59 or so of other crimes, and he'll have learned his lesson!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:23
|
|
|
Fallom posted:Why did they need to “cut a deal” for a guy who didn’t bother hiding any of his crimes? His crimes don't matter to anyone that cares to enforce them
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:25
|
|
|
canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1201943168557686785 Totally normal person to have asking questions to witnesses. Absolutely impartial.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:30
|
|
|
Rent-A-Cop posted:He rich. Not even close. Though I'm sure he'll get there on the griftwagen as soon as he's able. He is rich-adjacent, however.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:34
|
|
|
Now they're running local tv ads encouraging people to call their local congressmen to vote against impeachment. loving hell.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:40
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/BobCusack/status/1201948246366707720 https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1201964216137256961 Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Dec 3, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 21:51
|
|
|
What in the world does Trump think he's still going to find in her emails The state department has all the relevant ones edit: one of the most shocking things to me is finding out that Trump really thinks Hillary's E-mails are important and filled with secrets, I had always assumed he knew he was just making political hay over nothing, but he is STILL LOOKING FOR THEM theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 3, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:00
|
|
|
DACK FAYDEN posted:lmao at "yeah sure Steve King's district is just barely tilts R, that sounds right" Steve King barely won last November, 50-47. JD Sholten is a strong Dem candidate for that area and has an excellent chance of defeating King this time.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:05
|
|
|
predicto posted:Steve King barely won last November, 50-47. JD Sholten is a strong Dem candidate for that area and has an excellent chance of defeating King this time. Yeah king is dead in the water. Since he was kicked off his committees he's really lost any reason to vote for him.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:06
|
|
|
theflyingorc posted:edit: one of the most shocking things to me is finding out that Trump really thinks Hillary's E-mails are important and filled with secrets, I had always assumed he knew he was just making political hay over nothing, but he is STILL LOOKING FOR THEM You forgot the enduring foundational principle of the Trump administration, He Really Is That Dumb
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:06
|
|
|
theflyingorc posted:What in the world does Trump think he's still going to find in her emails Fwd: Vince Foster’s Body Re: Cattle Future Cover-Up Re: get intern to fetch Starbucks coffee for me
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:08
|
|
|
FizFashizzle posted:Yeah king is dead in the water. Since he was kicked off his committees he's really lost any reason to vote for him. Oh lets be honest, there are a lot of people that have some other real reasons to vote for him
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:08
|
|
|
theflyingorc posted:What in the world does Trump think he's still going to find in her emails That feels less about actually finding something and more just punishing career people for disloyalty with meaningless and tedious bullshit to force them out. e: he wasn't making them search her emails, just process FOIA requests, of which there are probably tens if not hundreds of thousands, from right wing cranks and your grandparents etc ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Dec 3, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:10
|
|
|
haveblue posted:You forgot the enduring foundational principle of the Trump administration, He Really Is That Dumb 1. Hillary actually deleted a bunch of E-mails to hide them, not simply as a matter of course 2. None of the recipients had those secret e-mails and had shared them 3. Finding them revealed a pattern of treachery by HRC where she secretly did all the evil things the right wing thinks she did ....what does that do for him now? She's not going to be the candidate! The information is 3 years out of date from helping him!
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 5, 2024 23:13 |
|
|
theflyingorc posted:Yeah, you're not wrong. It's just...he's still obsessed with them, and for what? Even if:
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2019 22:14
|
|
