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A)  at Brown Moses trying to make out that this thing is dodgy. It's incredible, because nobody is saying it's actually inaccurate or the contents of the 'real' report differ at all - just trying to create the insinuation that, because this was supposedly released by Russians, the contents of the thing itself are suss. I'll be honest I wasn't on board with "BM is a CIA stooge" before, but actual lol that in the course of one day he has convinced me irretrievably that he is.B) Vicky 2 is fantastic even as it's wildly flawed. Fave V2 story: When Wiz first got recruited by Paradox he showed up and went "Now that I can get into the code I'm going to figure out how this game works and fix it up some!". He was told "lol others have tried and got nowhere" and after awhile, he said "poo poo I have no idea what the gently caress, I give up". They made some kind of absolutely Lovecraftian nightmare code that can't be understood by either its own programmers or fresh eyes. Vicky 3 is needed or I will die. C) Break the chains, support strikes, vote Labour! e; I just started playing Phoenix Point so you probably won't hear from me again for at least 41 hours.
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Isn't one of the paradox devs like a weird neo nazi or something? Honestly aside from their inability to release a game that doesn't depend on a million DLCs to be playable the hosed up concept of particularly left/right politics in recent history they put in their games is a big part of what puts me off them. Like you're already asking a lot for me to give a poo poo about nationalism wank, but if you've going to make it backwards-rear end right wing imaginings of history then I'm not even gonna try.
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Bundy posted:I'm a fan of 101domain.com myself as their DNS control panel doesn't suck utter poo poo. To expand on this slightly gmail doesn't host custom domain email accounts for free (unless you have one of the gapps accounts mentioned), the domain registrar probably doesn't either but maybe they have some paid upgrade for £x a month. Alternatively I think zoho does host custom domain email accounts up to 5gb for free (they also sell domains but I don't know how the cost compares) so if you wanted to do it as cheaply as possible you could buy the domain where ever it's the cheapest (I use namecheap who haven't done me wrong but again I don't know how it compares on price), point the records to zoho and add the zoho smtp / imap or whatever in your gmail account. I haven't done this myself but i think it would work
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I turned the British Empire into a Communist super state in Vicky so I think that qualifies it as good.
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OwlFancier posted:Isn't one of the paradox devs like a weird neo nazi or something?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The publisher bought White Wolf, which I think had a neo nazi as the head of it? Until they actually noticed he was weird neo nazi and got rid of him. I don't think any of the developers have shown themselves to be actual neo nazis, but some of them are definitely in the "clean Wehrmacht" camp, and real comfortable sanitizing the Nazis. That'd be what I call a neo nazi. Or at least hard to tell from a nazi going stealth/being on the road to full nazism.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:And if you are paying for adverts you need to be absolutely scrupulous about the paid coverage - putting a central point and a radius around it is absolutely NOT sufficient. I have spent hours on google earth with the official constituency KLM file mapping postcodes to make sure we don't go over into neighbouring constituencies. is this something scripting would help with? are you trying to grab all the postcodes within the consituency boundaries, but excluding any that cross into a neighbouring area?
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OwlFancier posted:That'd be what I call a neo nazi.
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Tarnop posted:I've read the document and it doesn't say anything about removing back-to-work targets.   And while you're technically correct - there is no direct mention of removal of targets - I can't see how targets could happen under this system. AFAIK they were a product of ATOS so that the Conservatives could dissassociate themselves from it, and also since they were targets put in place by a private contractor, no vote in parliament was required. By bringing the assessments back in-house under a government who are stating their aim as a system which "treats people with dignity and respect" and will "end poverty by guaranteeing a minimum standard of living," It's not possible to reconcile that (especially the second statement) with a system which leaves people with nothing. I believe that "giving effect to the UN convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and amending the Equalities Act" will not only achieve this, but enshrine it in law to prevent future Tory fuckery against the disabled. The final paragraph mentions helping disabled people wanting to work, but I really don't see how it's possible to read the rest of the manifesto and worry that the assessments are going to be anything like what we have now. E: Also now that I think about it, they're also pretty clear about ending UC's conflation of unemployment and disability, which is what led to this bullshit about targets in the first place. Yeah it's reading between the lines, but there are so many positive statements it's hard not to join them up and see a new paradigm which makes the targets impossible. I've been through pre-DWP joblessness and the second I mentioned dyspraxia (the misdiagnosis I had at the time) the staff were 100% on board. If I said I couldn't do it, I didn't have to apply for a job. The pre DWP disability assessment was a case of turning up with my edPsych report and talking to an assessor who took my statements at face value. I still have the report they did somewhere. My understanding from talking to two friends who are registered blind was a similar case of getting an NHS diagnosis, taking that in, and then the assessor pretty much said "what do you need." I'd be interested to hear more opinions from other posters of what pre-tory (and especially pre-Blair) assessments were like, but my understanding is that they were a case of proving you were disabled and then they'd pretty much leave you alone unless you wanted help finding work. It's all good stuff and I am excited for DSS times. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 3, 2019 |
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I'd dispute that nazi germany has to be fun to play for people who are not neo nazis and the idea that does is a presupposition of the idea that you can separate the nazi ideology from germany's actions during the second world war, which may be a common idea but it is also a step on the road towards nazism. It's the same stupid idea Jorby Peeberson advocates, a failure to characterise the nature of the war as being inherently genocidal because fascism is founded on the idea of racial conflict, which he doesn't understand because he's a big moron who knows nothing and thinks that apple cider made him not sleep for a month.
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The white wolf stuff was a god drat shitshow, they were doing a new version (V5 Camarilla) with worldbuilding that included references to the (real world) LGBT purges in Chechnya, except oh they're not being put incamps because they're gay its all a cover story to make blood farms! and one of the pre-build characters is a paedophile. So the whole VTM universe got taken off them and the team scattered.
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I would personally suggest that it would be a much better game if it just straight up made playing as the nazis a loving horrorshow, to discourage you from wanting to do it, it's well within the scope of HoI to do this, too, because it already simulates the ability to lose political strength through making unpopular decisions, or it can make decisions for you, so you could absolutely use it to demonstrate the inherent connection between the nazi ideology and the actions of nazi germany both domestic and foreign. It would be very educational for a lot of people as well as artistically worthwhile. To say nothing of the moral obligation of a mass media project to represent reality in a socially responsible way. The idea that it needs to be just a happy fun romp through the ardennes with your panzer divisions seems like a  problem.
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baka kaba posted:is this something scripting would help with? are you trying to grab all the postcodes within the consituency boundaries, but excluding any that cross into a neighbouring area? I don't know to be honest! I'm not really sure how to use scripting esp not with Google Earth. I've done it now anyway for our constituency, but it might be something useful for when/if the boundary changes ever kick in.
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remember that America's Army team FPS game where whichever team you were on you always saw your side as US soldiers and the enemy as the bad terroristsJaeluni Asjil posted:I don't know to be honest! I'm not really sure how to use scripting esp not with Google Earth. I've done it now anyway for our constituency, but it might be something useful for when/if the boundary changes ever kick in. oh I just wondered if it would be useful to try and automate it, so other constituencies could get all the postcodes easily or whatever I'm not sure how easy it is to get the data but might be doable maybe, possibly
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OwlFancier posted:I'd dispute that nazi germany has to be fun to play for people who are not neo nazis and the idea that does is a presupposition of the idea that you can separate the nazi ideology from germany's actions during the second world war, which may be a common idea but it is also a step on the road towards nazism. It's the same stupid idea Jorby Peeberson advocates, a failure to characterise the nature of the war as being inherently genocidal because fascism is founded on the idea of racial conflict, which he doesn't understand because he's a big moron who knows nothing and thinks that apple cider made him not sleep for a month. OwlFancier posted:I would personally suggest that it would be a much better game if it just straight up made playing as the nazis a loving horrorshow, to discourage you from wanting to do it, it's well within the scope of HoI to do this, too, because it already simulates the ability to lose political strength through making unpopular decisions, or it can make decisions for you, so you could absolutely use it to demonstrate the inherent connection between the nazi ideology and the actions of nazi germany both domestic and foreign. It would be very educational for a lot of people as well as artistically worthwhile. To say nothing of the moral obligation of a mass media project to represent reality in a socially responsible way.
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baka kaba posted:remember that America's Army team FPS game where whichever team you were on you always saw your side as US soldiers and the enemy as the bad terrorists Absolutely could be useful. I have no idea how other CLPs manage this! I guess if you're in cities it's much easier, but in a CLP like ours: we have a CLP boundary containing 5 towns, part of a city, and a boundary not contiguous with the county boundary (so we have councillors who are in another county for local elections but in our CLP for general elections), and loads of rural areas it's quite complicated.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The only issue with that is that a lot of HoI players would relish a game where you get to do Nazi crimes. I might suggest that this is because they've created a not insignificant amount of them. If the game tells you that there isn't really a difference between nazis and anyone else, that they're all just cool war mans and boy howdy do the nazis have the coolest war stuff, then this creates people sympathetic to the nazis. While attracting ones that already exist to radicalize them. Much better, I think, to be overtly critical of them rather than pretend they're not actually nazis. You can even do the criticism within the game, obviously fascism needs to constantly fight things to function and in the absence of external enemies it would fight itself, so you could simply make it actually impossible for a fascist country to be long term stable, while communicating to the player the need for ever increasing atrocities to satiate people or, ultimately, allowing them to pick another way and overthrow your government. You could, essentially simulate why germany lost the war. You can kill as many people as you want and conquer as much territory as you want but it will, inevitably, come to nothing. It's not like they don't already have an analogy. Fascism is the WW2 version of End of the Cycle from stellaris. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 3, 2019 |
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I like to play democracy 3 and usher in a golden age of socialism, with a country leading the world in scientific endeavours and green policies
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OwlFancier posted:That'd be what I call a neo nazi. Apart from the White Wolf thing, there was a story going round a while back about one of the devs (I think possibly whoever took over Stellaris from Wiz) was a subscriber to a load of alt-right news sites on FB. Bad times.
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There was another thread recently which got really into the problem of depicting Nazi Germany in the HoI games, and I'm going to totally butcher this point because I can't recall exactly how it was phrased, or exactly what thread it was, but somebody much more eloquent than me summed it up like this: you can't just make Nazi Germany mechanically identical to all the other choices in the game, and allow the player to make 'smarter' or 'better' choices than the real leadership did, because it divorces those decisions from the reasons for those decisions - and the real Nazis wouldn't have made different decisions because fascism was dependent on them making those choices. Everything that a player treats as a mechanical choice, or a mistake, whatever, was a decision made for an ideological reason.
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Lightningproof posted:Apart from the White Wolf thing, there was a story going round a while back about one of the devs (I think possibly whoever took over Stellaris from Wiz) was a subscriber to a load of alt-right news sites on FB. Bad times. I think that's who I was thinking of, moregard or something.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Absolutely could be useful. I have no idea how other CLPs manage this! if you got all postcodes for a consituency, then filtered out any that are also present in the adjacent constituencies, would something like that work? you just want a final list that avoids advertising outside the constituency, right
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Hungry posted:There was another thread recently which got really into the problem of depicting Nazi Germany in the HoI games, and I'm going to totally butcher this point because I can't recall exactly how it was phrased, or exactly what thread it was, but somebody much more eloquent than me summed it up like this: you can't just make Nazi Germany mechanically identical to all the other choices in the game, and allow the player to make 'smarter' or 'better' choices than the real leadership did, because it divorces those decisions from the reasons for those decisions - and the real Nazis wouldn't have made different decisions because they wouldn't have been fascists in the first place. Well that's the weird thing, you absolutely can let players do that because the game more than has the capacity to simulate consequences for playing ahistorically. You absolutely could, if you chose to, simulate the costs of different decisions and make it clear that if you want to have the nazis in charge you have to do the nazi atrocities, the two are not separable. You can make a ludonarrative argument for why nazis are bad, because playing them in the game will make it unwinnable, their ideas fundamentally do not make sense. Kaiserreich does this, as far as I understand, in that it makes a lot of its historical events unfold narratively due to your choices in dilemmas, but the dilemmas are grounded in an understanding of historical inertia. The US is headed towards civil war because of the rising syndicalist sentiments across the globe and the failure of the US government, despite not collapsing immediately in the loss of the first world war like the UK and France, to handle the great depression and subsequent market crashes. You can't magic the syndicalists away nor can you magic away the fascists under macarthur. The game absolutely can simulate a much better sense of historicity, it just chooses not to. And kaiserreich is pretty popular so there's clearly a market for a game in the genre with that sense of historical weight to it.
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OwlFancier posted:You absolutely could, if you chose to, simulate the costs of different decisions and make it clear that if you want to have the nazis in charge you have to do the nazi atrocities, the two are not separable. You can make a ludonarrative argument for why nazis are bad, because playing them in the game will make it unwinnable, their ideas fundamentally do not make sense. Yeah that's exactly what I was trying to say. I've barely touched HoI myself, but my sister was really into Kaiserreich for a few years but not the base game, which makes a bit more sense now.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Yeah it's reading between the lines, but there are so many positive statements it's hard not to join them up and see a new paradigm which makes the targets impossible. I agree that the lines can be read between and that a decent system compatible with what they're saying can be imagined. And I hope that's what they're planning. The trouble is that the wording is also compatible with an even more hellish system than we have now. And Blsir's government shat on the poor and disabled from practically the moment they got in, and the PLP is still full of those fuckers. Bobby Deluxe posted:I'd be interested to hear more opinions from other posters of what pre-tory (and especially pre-Blair) assessments were like, but my understanding is that they were a case of proving you were disabled and then they'd pretty much leave you alone unless you wanted help finding work. Yes, that was roughly it. It wasn't perfect, there were stupid obstacles in the way of disabled people doing some work when they could for example (which are now of course far worse, because no one's going to risk having the DWP use that as evidence against you). But the idea that people on benefits of any sort should be constantly examined to see if they're worthy is not that old. Unemployment benefit was turned into Jobseekers allowance in 1996, Blair went on about handup not handout in 1999.
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OwlFancier posted:I might suggest that this is because they've created a not insignificant amount of them. If the game tells you that there isn't really a difference between nazis and anyone else, that they're all just cool war mans and boy howdy do the nazis have the coolest war stuff, then this creates people sympathetic to the nazis. While attracting ones that already exist to radicalize them.
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baka kaba posted:remember that America's Army team FPS game where whichever team you were on you always saw your side as US soldiers and the enemy as the bad terrorist Also it was a direct recruitment tool for the US Army
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OwlFancier posted:Well that's the weird thing, you absolutely can let players do that because the game more than has the capacity to simulate consequences for playing ahistorically. You absolutely could, if you chose to, simulate the costs of different decisions and make it clear that if you want to have the nazis in charge you have to do the nazi atrocities, the two are not separable. You can make a ludonarrative argument for why nazis are bad, because playing them in the game will make it unwinnable, their ideas fundamentally do not make sense.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You've convinced me. If you make fascist countries escalate their need to inflict violence over the course of the game, then perhaps you can do the "smarter and cleverer than the real leadership" thing initially, but the inevitability of your need to inflict violence outpacing your abilities would see more and more of your resources directed towards mass murder until you inevitably lose the war. So like, you can still do the "crusade against communism with Slavic auxiliaries" thing or whatever fantasy some people have, but eventually your state will turn against them. Yeah exactly, and I think that's a really effective form of communication for a game, if you write it well enough so people understand the reasons why it's going down the shitter. And sure it'd probably make some people annoyed that fascism is inherently unwinnable but at least they're then questioning that assumption that it should be winnable. Rather than the alternative which presents it as being totally practical as long as you're just the big brain alt hitler. And ultimately "why can't I conquer the world as the nazis" is a fairly weak criticism against a game. Make the nazis actually come out for why they definitely should be able to go maximum hitler on the whole world no problem. Guavanaut posted:Could you not play fascists as Francoist style lack of external expansion-aggression but still massive twats until someone assassinates you? Yeah probably, the game has political stability and that, as well as stuff like conditional timers that you have to do something or bad things will happen. Spend political power and resources to cause yourself economic damage at increasingly escalating rates until you run out of all of that and get hung upside down from the nearest lamp post as your country erupts in revolution. Then go play as the revolutionaries and see how much loving better life is. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Dec 3, 2019 |
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baka kaba posted:if you got all postcodes for a consituency, then filtered out any that are also present in the adjacent constituencies, would something like that work? you just want a final list that avoids advertising outside the constituency, right Yes that kind of thing. Problem with Facebook advertising is you can only cut it down to the XXNN N** level not XXNN NX* or XXNN NXX levels (unless it's changed now. I'm thankfully not doing the facebook ads this time!) Data infos here. It is possible that it already exists but I only used the KML files https://data.gov.uk/dataset/00a6d59...n-great-britain
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