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ScrubLeague posted:hello i posted this in the trump thread and i'm sure there's zero people who read this thread but not that one you lost me at "Books are for nerds"
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how do you put the force awakens in the same list as fury road and nightcrawler and look yourself in the mirror
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tbh there are things on that list i've been meaning to check out, but will now do so because scrubleague said they were good i think that 'the act of killing,' a documentary, is the most egregious omission. besides books
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Finicums Wake posted:tbh there are things on that list i've been meaning to check out, but will now do so because scrubleague said they were good havent seen it, didn't come to theaters, was never on hbo
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Act of Killing may still be on Netflix. Never got to see the sequel though.
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really not a film of act of killing at all personally its editing is so aggressively and obviously manipulative that i honestly dont trust anything it has to say about who the former death squad fascists its following around are like as people the main obvious way it does this is that even though the classic hollywood showtunes film the fascists are making is frequently referenced as the films central gimmick we never at any point are given enough context for what this film is about or where the various snippets we get appear in the story to be able to make any kind of informed judgment about what they were trying to say its just presented as goofy wacky fascists being completely incapable of forming a coherent moralistic narrative when in reality this effect is only a result of selective editing the more mundane scenes suffer from the same problem a whole lot was made about the guy at the old end feeling pangs of guilt for what he had done but for all we know the dude was just trying and failing to impress his grandkids and suffered from a stomachache because he got food poisoning most reviewers who came up with the deep moral absolution take on those scenes thought they did so on their own but this interpretation is the one clearly implied by the editing and its extremely naive to think it was intended any other way in general act of killing goes far out of its way to avoid contextualizing anything solely so it can try to apply some kind of weird universalistic statement to how fascists think and i found this really irritating because every so often we get a glimpse of what the countrys political culture is like with snippets of a right wing rally or listening to what war criminals have to say on the indonesian version of fox and friends but rather than try and make an analogy to anything relatable the filmmakers just act like everything is happening in wacky land and that theres just no understanding how fascists think
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That's a really bad reading of the movie imo. Anybody who thought the last scene was a "moral absolution" doesn't even get how moral absolution works. The former death squad members also weren't making their own movie, they were allowed to direct their own scenes recreating what they did in the ways they wanted them to be seen - which is as a Hollywood thriller where they're the hardboiled good guys. It's not like it mystifies how fascists think either. The main subject states plainly that he made his living as a gangster by scalping tickets, and if the communists had their way then they would've done away with American movies & the market in general, which would've made it impossible for him to live as a lumpenprole. They viewed the communists as something that would threaten what was so great about living in an Americanized conception of "freedom," which is the opportunity for yourself to become rich & powerful by hook or by crook. It demystifies the underpinnings of fascism, if anything.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The former death squad members also weren't making their own movie, they were allowed to direct their own scenes recreating what they did in the ways they wanted them to be seen - which is as a Hollywood thriller where they're the hardboiled good guys. thats an extremely pedantic distinction as to whether they were making a single feature film or just a series of smaller short films with similar subjects but the ridiculous thing is the movie presents so little context about what exactly the fascists were doing with their film production materials and how they interpreted the scenes they were making relative to each other its impossible to know what their actual vision was or what kind of movie or movies they thought they were making Pener Kropoopkin posted:The main subject states plainly that he made his living as a gangster by scalping tickets, and if the communists had their way then they would've done away with American movies & the market in general, which would've made it impossible for him to live as a lumpenprole. see this is the kind of thing i would have really really liked to have gotten more context about because im very skeptical that his whole career was this one dimensional or even that this was an accurate representation of what the communists were going to do at all or whether any of this even had anything to with his actual reasons for participating in the death squads but the movie takes all of this information at face value and doesnt even try to explain the context let alone question the truthfulness of its subjects Some Guy TT has issued a correction as of 11:00 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Finicums Wake posted:you lost me at "Books are for nerds" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haxk7l1pBTM
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Some Guy TT posted:thats an extremely pedantic distinction as to whether they were making a single feature film or just a series of smaller short films with similar subjects but the ridiculous thing is the movie presents so little context about what exactly the fascists were doing with their film production materials and how they interpreted the scenes they were making relative to each other its impossible to know what their actual vision was or what kind of movie or movies they thought they were making The purpose of the movie isn't to contextualize the mass murder, it's to make the murderers the primary subjects so that they can explain themselves in their own terms - which is something that almost never happens because in most cases the mass murderers aren't powerful enough after the fact to feel that confident. Instead of being threatened by some sort of reconciliatory justice they're still paramilitary arms of the government.
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Dec 4, 2019 11:12
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thats ridiculous mass murderers explain themselves in their own terms all the time and im just a little baffled that a poster as outspoken about imperialistist propaganda as yourself can write something like that with a straight face
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Some Guy TT posted:thats ridiculous mass murderers explain themselves in their own terms all the time and im just a little baffled that a poster as outspoken about imperialistist propaganda as yourself can write something like that with a straight face That's not really the same thing though. You can get plenty of material on all of the shot-callers, but there's relatively little from the guys who did the actual killings. It's like saying there's more than enough testimony from SS sonderkomandos.
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im trying to picture someone making a movie about sonderkomandos wherein theyre allowed to tell their side of the story and pretend to feel bad about following hitlers orders and uh the comparison really isnt doing much to improve my opinion of act of killing
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Dec 4, 2019 11:29
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The whole point of Act of Killing is that they don't feel bad at all.
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Dec 4, 2019 11:36
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ScrubLeague posted:hello i posted this in the trump thread and i'm sure there's zero people who read this thread but not that one I want to make it clear, I do not read the Trump thread, and will not
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Skellybones posted:The minions worked on the Manhatten Project in WWII. They had nothing to do the Holocaust because they'd already invented concentration camps for the British Empire and won't do the same job twice. pretty awesome that the minions actually exist irl and are literally mckinsey consultants
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The whole point of Act of Killing is that they don't feel bad at all. Well right, wouldn't the Communists have done the same to them if the shoe was on the other foot?
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https://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/1202152291542810624?s=19 That's forums poster mister bibs in the screenshot
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:https://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/1202152291542810624?s=19 jackandrichfromrlmcallingmrbibswrong.gif
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Everybody hates von Trier, but there's not much more CSPAM than this Melancholia clip, surprised it's not been mentioned in anyone's best of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb69TMISL_Y
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Whorelord posted:jackandrichfromrlmcallingmrbibswrong.gif What
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:https://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/1202152291542810624?s=19 lol the same mr bibs who almost died eating a hot dog and couldn't pass the silver training mode challenge in wow because he refused to learn what buttons to press?
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Serf posted:lol the same mr bibs who almost died eating a hot dog and couldn't pass the silver training mode challenge in wow because he refused to learn what buttons to press? I remember the second half but what's the first
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:What 
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Finally catching up on Mandalorian. Is it supposed to feel like a video game cutscene compilation, or is that just my diseased brain talking?
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I remember the second half but what's the first he just related the story of how he tried to swallow a hotdog whole, not on a bet or anything just because, and almost died BENGHAZI 2 posted:What's this from tho some stream where he was in the chat saying some dumb poo poo
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Forceholy posted:Finally catching up on Mandalorian. The parts where he goes to get his armor upgraded definitely feel that way.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:https://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/1202152291542810624?s=19 Tbis doesn't even make me angry, just incredibly sad someone could believe this is true
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:What's this from tho Serf posted:some stream where he was in the chat saying some dumb poo poo He said the only reason RLM didn't like the prequels was that they were "Not Their Star Wars" and not due to any flaws inherent in the films That classic gif is Jack's response.
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Probably Magic posted:Everybody hates von Trier, but there's not much more CSPAM than this Melancholia clip, surprised it's not been mentioned in anyone's best of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb69TMISL_Y good pull. only losers hate Von trier and melancholia is probably my fave film of the decade
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If you haven't seen Letterkenny, it's a great show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P5pQb7TCTo
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yeah uh why would cspam hate von trier im having trouble thinking of anything in any of his movies this subforum would have a problem with
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MizPiz posted:If you haven't seen Letterkenny, it's a great show Yeah, Letterkenny is great. Apparently, it's the closest portrayal of living in Rural Canada.
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General Dog posted:The parts where he goes to get his armor upgraded definitely feel that way. I'm pretty sure the Old Republic MMO had a questline just like episode 4. Probably even for the bounty hunter character. The other impression I get is that it is very similar to Stargate - we get a different planet of the week and the SG team, I mean Mando and Baby Yoda, have to save a different Renaissance faire village. I guess on the upside we will probably get to see more variety in locales rather than just different parts of the Vancouver forests.
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i didn't know about mister bibs until now but drat he rocks
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wow theres a new season of rick and morty and it has elon musk in it and its also extremely bad so far
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Organic Lube User posted:I'm pretty sure the Old Republic MMO had a questline just like episode 4. Probably even for the bounty hunter character. Ep 4 seemed like an episode of xena or hercules, and that's a good thing.
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Organic Lube User posted:I'm pretty sure the Old Republic MMO had a questline just like episode 4. Probably even for the bounty hunter character. I mean the first three episodes are him finding, retrieving, and deciding to escape with the baby so Not really
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