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SubG posted:Ranking member of House Judiciary here arguing that nobody can really know what the Constitution means. Funny how that is the case only when it hurts Republicans.
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Dec 4, 2019 19:56
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During the last recess, a lady on CNN, like someone paid probably hundreds of thousands of dollars to talk about this poo poo, had her mind blown that the founders made it so the president had to be a natural born citizen because of fear of foreign interference. Like, she knew the first part, that the president had to be a natural born citizen, but she was amazed about the reason. How is that even possible? I don't think I was ever even told that, but it's the obvious reason that anyone would simply "get". Man, CNN.
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Dec 4, 2019 19:58
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The pool of tenured constitutional scholars from tier 1 or 2 law schools that would be willing to argue against impeachment here has got to be pretty shallow
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Dec 4, 2019 20:01
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If anyone's feeling bored, here is a law review article written by one Prof. Turley regarding the nature of impeachment proceedings.quote:The records from the Constitutional Convention and state ratification debates are simply too sparse and varied to sustain any clear interpretation of the adoption of the English standard. Three conclusions about this standard, however, appear well established and generally accepted. First, the impeachment standard was clearly intended to extend beyond criminal acts to include some noncriminal acts....
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Dec 4, 2019 20:02
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1glitch0 posted:During the last recess, a lady on CNN, like someone paid probably hundreds of thousands of dollars to talk about this poo poo, had her mind blown that the founders made it so the president had to be a natural born citizen because of fear of foreign interference. Like, she knew the first part, that the president had to be a natural born citizen, but she was amazed about the reason. How is that even possible? I don't think I was ever even told that, but it's the obvious reason that anyone would simply "get". Man, CNN. You were never told this obvious tidbit that in the era of Cathrine the great no one wanted an Austrian ruling America?
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Dec 4, 2019 20:03
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The "Independent" callers on CSPAN are always the biggest chuds
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Dec 4, 2019 20:11
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Pollyanna posted:I did, but I’ll count it as important once he suffers consequences. Otherwise it’s more “hey crimes happened but whatever man” bullshit typical of modern politics. Why would I leap paying attention if no one ever gets their comeuppance? In that case no, no one has been directly sent to prison yet. Might want to check out of the thread again for a year or so.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:12
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As I understand it, Republicans got to choose 1 witness while Democrats chose 3. Is that because Democrats are the majority or is that because there's only 1 Constitutional law professor with a reputation who is willing to stick their neck out and say this isn't impeachable?
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Dec 4, 2019 20:15
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"I've been a life long Democrat until they started trying to impeach Trump." Interesting.
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HootTheOwl posted:You were never told this obvious tidbit that in the era of Cathrine the great no one wanted an Austrian ruling America? lol, I wasn't personally, because of a lack of education, but it seemed like a pretty obvious thing to deduct from knowing that you had to be a naturally born citizen to be president. Also, I did have a weird moment of clarity when CNN came back from its break with the graphic of Trump's head next to "Impeachment Hearing". This feels like it was so inevitable. I remember back in 2015 when Trump was flirting with running and I knew he wouldn't because he's an idiot conman who has done all the crimes and it would expose him. Then he actually ran and I was sure he would drop out for the same reason. Then he won the primary and I was sure he would tank it because even he knew he was punching above his weight and if he won the presidency he would be under too much scrutiny. Then he won and of course he's going to be impeached. It's like the finale of Veep when you hear who got impeached. It's like, it couldn't have gone any other way.
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oxsnard posted:The "Independent" callers on CSPAN are always the biggest chuds I like the crazy deep state callers.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:20
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1glitch0 posted:lol, I wasn't personally, because of a lack of education, but it seemed like a pretty obvious thing to deduct from knowing that you had to be a naturally born citizen to be president. My other comment was a little crass but serious question: Are you an American?
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Dec 4, 2019 20:23
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Ehud posted:I like the crazy deep state callers. Now I'm just imagining someone claiming to be "the Deep State" calling in with a voice-masking app.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:24
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HootTheOwl posted:My other comment was a little crass but serious question: Are you an American? Oh yeah. I just was never told the specific reasoning for the reason the president has to be a natural born citizen. I just kinda figured it out on my own. That's why I was baffled that someone who does this for a living wouldn't know that. Stickman posted:Now I'm just imagining someone claiming to be "the Deep State" calling in with a voice-masking app. They have to use the Scream killer voice.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:25
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Dec 4, 2019 20:28
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What is Beard-o talking about making a fake name for? ^^^ 2:30 EST, I believe. So like, soon.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:31
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https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1202306224689168389?s=20 apparently January is missing because McConnell has earmarked that for the Senate trial.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:36
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Dec 4, 2019 20:44
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I find it kind of funny that the republican witness seems to have made a run for it.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:44
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Oh hey, it's Fat gently caress!
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Clear your throat you dunce
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Is the argument really: "What high crimes and misdemeanors rise to the level of being impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors?" lol, they have literally nothing.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:48
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Jim Sensenbrenner is an old fat fart and and the western suburbs of Milwaukee are a blight
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Dec 4, 2019 20:49
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:Jim Sensenbrenner is an old fat fart and and the western suburbs of Milwaukee are a blight He sounds like a dying auto-tune machine.
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oxsnard posted:this human potato sounds like a homeless drunk This human potato is my rep. Thankfully he's retiring. Unfortunately, he may be replaced by Scott Walker's kid.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:50
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Sensenbrenner sounds like a walrus gurgling underwater
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give him a few seconds to clear his throat.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:50
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Ah yes back to the well he didn't say "quid pro qou"
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pahuyuth posted:Sensenbrenner sounds like a walrus gurgling underwater He sounds like Brian Doyle-Murray on his death bed.
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Sensenbrenner: "It's going on for 4 months now..." Also Sensenbrenner: "This should not be done quickly"
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HootTheOwl posted:give him a few seconds to clear his throat. I recognize the gentleman 
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Poor Barron.
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Ehud posted:I recognize the gentleman The republican party doesn't know much years they've got left, so they're gonna get really weird with it.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:DAAAAAAMMMMNNNNNN I can't listen in, what happened?
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I feel like Noah Feldman got beat up a lot as a child
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