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We basically know now why Donnie is orange. It ain't natural and it's oddly not tanning. https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1202406242540503040 https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1202406006749351944
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Dec 5, 2019 02:59
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god dammit i use irish spring
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Dec 5, 2019 03:16
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Dec 5, 2019 03:18
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Godholio posted:Wasn't he a GS? A “colonel equivalent” GS!
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Dec 5, 2019 03:20
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He wasn't a GS-15. That's the COL equivalent.
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Dec 5, 2019 03:21
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He did say he was a some rank equivalent didn’t he?
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Dec 5, 2019 03:22
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he said he was an 0-6 equivalent
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Dec 5, 2019 03:23
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Is that Marlon Brando
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Dec 5, 2019 03:26
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:god dammit i use irish spring You should get an actual good soap.
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Dec 5, 2019 03:26
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:he said he was an 0-6 equivalent O-5 equivalent iirc
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Dec 5, 2019 03:41
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orange juche posted:Is that Marlon Brando
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Dec 5, 2019 03:41
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Casimir Radon posted:Yes, in The Island of Dr. Moreau ('96) I figured it was that poo poo movie because I still remember vague broad strokes of the plot from the one time I watched it in like 1998. Also remember pasty white makeup dude in weird robes.
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Dec 5, 2019 03:45
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:god dammit i use irish spring Me too
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Dec 5, 2019 03:46
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IIRC he was a contractor that, like many contractors, was paid the same or more as a GS14/15. Because he said he was 'basically the equivalent' but wasn't. Never in my five in a half years so far of contracting have I ever heard another contractor claim this. edit: he also had a ~security clearance~ because he worked on a facility that required it.
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Dec 5, 2019 03:47
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I remember the O-5 equivalent bit, but I thought he was a GS. That makes it dumb, but as a contractor...what the gently caress.
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Dec 5, 2019 04:09
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The O5 equivalent part isn't even all that stupid on the surface, because there is a legitimate comparison done (O5/GS14, O6/GS15) but that's mostly because of how billets, responsibilities, expected experience, and portfolio/financial concerns line up. Maybe he was a contractor that got a GS position, I don't remember.
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Dec 5, 2019 04:13
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Yeah but any Lanyard that earnestly describes themself as rank-equivalent to a bunch of enlisted and previously enlisted is a giant turd dressed in a polo shirt and 5.11 trousers when deserves every ounce of mockery
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Dec 5, 2019 04:38
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Whoopsie daisy
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Dec 5, 2019 04:39
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if you wear 5.11 trousers i judge you no matter what
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Dec 5, 2019 04:40
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:if you wear 5.11 trousers i judge you no matter what War criminal or aspires to be one, 100% of the time
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Dec 5, 2019 04:41
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Godholio posted:Wasn't he a GS? Still is a GS, and all around nice guy outside of these forums. He was a GS-14 at the time of his active days on SA, Grover, Me, and VileRat started the SIPR mailing list in pre-GiP days where we took D&D discussions up to the SECRET//NOFORN level. SIPR E-Mail in those days included civilian GS ranks. No idea if they still do. But his GS-14 tank was on his email name in global. As much as it pains me to say it, he was technically correct to call himself an O-5 equivalent. One of our sailors here had the collateral duty of taking out Grovers trash at work at the end of the day. And Grover was super nice to the guy and was generally Un-Grover like when encountered outside SA. Groverhaus might be the funniest thing in the world to me, from the insulated stairs to the thermostat in one of the mismatched windows.
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Dec 5, 2019 04:43
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Ken Bone Comeback posted:War criminal or aspires to be one, 100% of the time ::looks down:: checks out
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Dec 5, 2019 05:07
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Groverhaus might be the funniest thing in the world to me, from the insulated stairs to the thermostat in one of the mismatched windows. I don't know what the opposite of a tour de force but that is what  is
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Dec 5, 2019 05:09
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Still is a GS, and all around nice guy outside of these forums. I remember those SIPR email days although I never got in on it myself. I'm pretty sure enterprise email on SIPR and NIPR include GS pay grade in the same field as rank (or CTR for contractors). It's more of a positional thing vs pay grade. Like, you can have an O-5 who is a staff officer, or a squadron commander; and you can have a GS-15 that is an engineer not in charge of anyone, or a deputy commander/technical director/what have you, that sort of thing. I don't know what Grover was doing though.
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Dec 5, 2019 05:23
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Still is a GS, and all around nice guy outside of these forums. Thanks for clearing that up! It sure seemed like the accepted story was that grover was some contractor with delusions of grandeur. Turns out that was only accurate in terms of his own house.
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Dec 5, 2019 05:39
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O5/6es that turn SETA are my favorite contractors Half of them appreciate their new role and loosen up without having all the responsibility they're used to The other half lose their minds at being subservient to Lieutenants
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Dec 5, 2019 05:45
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Fallom posted:O5/6es that turn SETA are my favorite contractors Years ago one of the contracts I worked with who was a retired Army LTC pre-9/11 would say things like "I know what LTC Last Name would do/say; First Name, don't give a poo poo." He always thought that once his kids were out of the house that his wife was going to put him in a coma and stash him at a VA hospital as a vegetable to keep getting his retiree pay.
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Dec 5, 2019 05:50
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facialimpediment posted:Thanks for clearing that up! It sure seemed like the accepted story was that grover was some contractor with delusions of grandeur. Turns out that was only accurate in terms of his own house. this is the first time in 8 years on this forum that it has been spelled out that clearly. Just alot of "lol the civvy thinks he military"
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Dec 5, 2019 05:52
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:As much as it pains me to say it, he was technically correct to call himself an O-5 equivalent. No, he isn't/wasn't. There are very important legal distinctions. You can use it as a rough ballpark for level of responsibility, which is probably what he intended but executed in the worst way, which was his wont. Edit: The things that stick in my mind about Grover are the O-5 equivalence, the haus, the list of OIF predictions, and the Katy Perry purge.
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Dec 5, 2019 05:53
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As a civilian, you outrank everyone in the military, that's what the Constitution says 
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Dec 5, 2019 05:58
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Godholio posted:Also is that video the reason for  was there first, is the result of a poster having the same thought they have in the video a couple of years (?) back.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:00
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I thought the technical GS equivalency also had origins with the rules of war, so some civilian engineer in the front could wear a regular uniform so as not to be considered an irregular combatant if captured. Probably an urban legend? Or if true was some WWI/WWII thing that was obsolete pretty quickly?
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Dec 5, 2019 06:02
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I think it's also so people know where the ambassador's assistant, CIA station chief, and SECDEF office front desk attendant are supposed to be seated at a fancy dinner.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:13
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facialimpediment posted:Thanks for clearing that up! It sure seemed like the accepted story was that grover was some contractor with delusions of grandeur. Turns out that was only accurate in terms of his own house. You can be a regular normal goon and also be an “X with delusions of grandeur” on the Internet. In fact being extremely online pretty much requires some flavor of broke brains
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Dec 5, 2019 06:16
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hobbesmaster posted:I thought the technical GS equivalency also had origins with the rules of war, so some civilian engineer in the front could wear a regular uniform so as not to be considered an irregular combatant if captured. It's very much dependent on the GS job. As an example, the US Air Force has the Air Force Engineering and Technical Services. They're GS civilians who work as trainers and technicians in comm and maintenance. They're required to maintain the same medical, physical, and training standards for deploying as uniformed members of the military. When they deploy, they wear Air Force camo fatigues and carry weapons, and are recognized as combatants under the Geneva Conventions. On the other hand, your average GS doesn't need to be deployable, and if they do go out the door, they're not legal combatants.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:31
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Godholio posted:No, he isn't/wasn't. There are very important legal distinctions. You can use it as a rough ballpark for level of responsibility, which is probably what he intended but executed in the worst way, which was his wont. Dude, just google GS-14 military equivalent. Here I’ll do it for you:  It’s the common and accepted equivalency. It doesn’t directly translate legal responsibilities and military command authority etc, but for pay grade equivalency it’s what’s commonly used. He expressed it in the dumbest most asinine way possible, but what he said wasn’t complete bullshit.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:38
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FWIW, most organizations outsides of government have a similar equivalency chart somewhere, usually hidden in HR. It’s for poo poo like paygrades, dumb privileges (who gets to WFH) and responsibilities (who gets to decide what or approve what). The cruise ship I worked on straight up had posters with what passenger area you were allowed in off-duty depending on how many stripes your shoulder boards had (or how many your position would get if you had an uniform). Spoiler alert: the whiter you were the more places you had access to.
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Dec 5, 2019 06:58
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The rub was, back in the days that he was saying that poo poo 90% of mil goons were E-1 to E-4, and O-1 to O-3, so he was definitely trying to flex nuts with power he didn’t have. It was an astounding display of dumbassery. Level 10 poo poo.
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Arc Light posted:It's very much dependent on the GS job. Just loving lol at "maintaining the same physical standards" and "carrying a weapon" for any of the AFETS reps I ever knew For instance, one of the two AFETS reps at the maintenance unit next door is easily 280-300 lbs, squat, and probably has never run a quarter mile in his life, let alone qualified on a weapon.
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