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I think the reason I feel so much lower than I did this time in 2017 is I'm much more invested in it. There seemed no hope at all in 2017 and I could just ride the wave of gallows humour and lol nothing matters. This time round - thanks to 2017 - I've reason to hope, and as such have put a lot more of myself both physically and mentally into it, which means that the attacks against Labour feel much more like an attack against me personally, so they sap the spirit in a way they couldn't before. There's also - as a white, middle aged, middle class cishet male - that tiny little voice that says "Hey, don't worry, you're coming out ahead no matter what". That was a feeling I could drown in macho irony* when I was detached from things, but with a personal investment it's a lot loving louder this time round, and I absolutely hate myself for it. Don't mind me, just venting some stuff - I always find actually writing it down makes me able to realise how silly this poo poo actually sounds. Vote Labour, gently caress the Tories of all stripes, and solidarity to all. * I loving love that phrase and reading it was worth the 30 bucks I paid the SubGenius alone, even without the guarantee of personal salvation or TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK.
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Jel Shaker posted:Top tip, you’d think “Ant” was the small one, but it’s actually the opposite (I’ve amazed my friends so often knowing which is which) The answer is clearly Ant is the blind one. Nice & simple.
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OwlFancier posted:Jeremy corbyn can't be prime minister because he doesn't know which one's ant and which one's dec. Corbyn can't be prime minister because he doesn't know which one's Andy and which one's dead: 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I think the reason I feel so much lower than I did this time in 2017 is I'm much more invested in it. There seemed no hope at all in 2017 and I could just ride the wave of gallows humour and lol nothing matters. This time round - thanks to 2017 - I've reason to hope, and as such have put a lot more of myself both physically and mentally into it, which means that the attacks against Labour feel much more like an attack against me personally, so they sap the spirit in a way they couldn't before. Yeah this is pretty much exactly where I'm at too
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OwlFancier posted:Jeremy corbyn can't be prime minister because he doesn't know which one's ant and which one's dec. Well he isn't deci-semitic, is he.
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Jose posted:Love to prejudice the investigation. Also the jlm submission is completely insane I read the foreword and it's loving bonkers. Like, completely mental. Also, didn't Oz just get fired from the daily mail of all places for being insufferable?
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TheRat posted:I read the foreword and it's loving bonkers. Like, completely mental. Also, didn't Oz just get fired from the daily mail of all places for being insufferable? He repeatedly called Peter hitchens an assadist using his work pc
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I just want to say thank you to everyone from this thread who's getting out there, campaigning, knocking on doors, stuffing leaflets, whatever it is you're doing, even just encouraging a family member or two. No matter how hard it seems it does make a difference. From those of us who so desperately want to help, but can't for whatever reason, thank you.
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Jose posted:He repeatedly called Peter hitchens an assadist using his work pc Amazing
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Really don't think anyone's going to be fussed about Corbyn's Queen's speech fluff who isn't already locked in with the Tories. How many millenials do you know that make time for Brenda in between getting drunk and playing video games on Xmas afternoon? 
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We'll win - it's fine to have a wobble and second guess, but even if we don't win the election we've won in the sense of activating socialist ideals amongst a whole generation. If they think all the bile and rhetoric around Brexit seemed widespread, I think a loss at this stage, when the sense of winning is so palpable, won't just taper off before Christmas. There may be less engagement with voting and democracy, but that is just one way of making change happen. The impetus for more direct action may seem minor at first, just another day of poo poo - but certain moments can set a chain of events off that causes such disruption it forces change. I'm all for peaceful and non-violent action, though looking back at history this tends to work better when the alternative is more disruptive action against infrastructure and such. Of course, all this is hypothetical as Corbyn will win 
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Unkempt posted:Well he isn't deci-semitic, is he. Asking for David Aaronovitch.
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TheRat posted:I read the foreword and it's loving bonkers. Like, completely mental. Also, didn't Oz just get fired from the daily mail of all places for being insufferable? I'm reading it right now and it's ludicrously overcooked. I really, really doubt someone said "Hitler was right" at a CLP meeting.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I think the reason I feel so much lower than I did this time in 2017 is I'm much more invested in it. There seemed no hope at all in 2017 and I could just ride the wave of gallows humour and lol nothing matters. This time round - thanks to 2017 - I've reason to hope, and as such have put a lot more of myself both physically and mentally into it, which means that the attacks against Labour feel much more like an attack against me personally, so they sap the spirit in a way they couldn't before. feel that to an incredible degree. pessimism is an adaptive behaviour. god it was so much easier when I didn't care about anything. quote:There's also - as a white, middle aged, middle class cishet male - that tiny little voice that says "Hey, don't worry, you're coming out ahead no matter what". That was a feeling I could drown in macho irony* when I was detached from things, but with a personal investment it's a lot loving louder this time round, and I absolutely hate myself for it. I keep telling myself - you can afford to bugger off and Canada has jobs, legalization and the Tories aren't so loving bad. and then I feel supremely guilty about it - jobs are all petrodollars, legalization was a sop to give a blackface loving liberal prick power and tories are tories. quote:Don't mind me, just venting some stuff - I always find actually writing it down makes me able to realise how silly this poo poo actually sounds. Vote Labour, gently caress the Tories of all stripes, and solidarity to all.
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Necrothatcher posted:I'm reading it right now and it's ludicrously overcooked. I really, really doubt someone said "Hitler was right" at a CLP meeting. Depends, did they let Ken Livingstone in?
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I watched last year's queens Christmas speech because it was her last one. We've got a Ricey truther over here, folks
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Necrothatcher posted:I'm reading it right now and it's ludicrously overcooked. I really, really doubt someone said "Hitler was right" at a CLP meeting.
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Being thankful for your own life raft in the storm isn't bad, I would be, if i had one. It's when you go around assuming that everyone has one and discussing how you'd like the brass fittings on yours.
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Ikwaylx posted:Sorry guys for spreading more fear into the thread. On a more positive note I just want to share my appreciation for everyone here who are doing hard work campaigning and the new doorknockers especially. You're all amazing and doing great work! You do not need to apologise. This is a rough time for us all, and I cannot blame anyone for being scared. To all of you: your worries are not silly. They are human. It is perfectly normal to feel that way when so much is riding on the outcome of this election. Hang in there, try to reserve judgement for one more week. Whatever happens, we'll be there for each other People have been comparing their feelings this time to the 2017 election. In 2017 I was in a deep pit of despair. I voted for a transphobe (though I didn't know that at the time) just to keep the Tories out of Edinburgh Southwest, because I had no confidence that Labour could do well. And they didn't in my seat. This time I'll be voting Labour because gently caress Joanna Cherry. Maybe she'll keep her seat, but I won't help her do it. What got me started on climbing out of that pit was literally the results of the election. I woke up and checked, and we hadn't won but we had massively outperformed expectations and broken Theresa May's power. I believed the polls, and I didn't know how to react to what actually happened. I'd had some fierce, desperate hope that Corbyn could do some good in reforming the Labour Party, but no confidence that much would come of it for a while. I was blown away by the results, and I started to come back out of my shell. And people in this thread helped with that. You helped a lot. And now I'm one of you. I'm a bombastic, strident member of the Cult of Corbyn, cheerleading for leftism, and it's working. I can taste our victory. I'm scared too, but I'm so excited I'm vibrating. We can do this. Hang in there 
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Once more unto the breach comrades once more, To shore up the walls with our socialist trends Still relatively hopeful. Don’t know how much more canvassing I could be doing but Christ I am drat tired, on my feet all day and all evening. Need to be going round the houses on one of those crap plastic hoverboards at this point.
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Jel Shaker posted:She could prerecord the next ten years of the things with just variations of the same banality. She never names names or outs perverts Enjoying the thought of Brenda doing years of Long Haired Erik cutaways goddamnedtwisto posted:Laura K's face when she was reading out the results of the exit poll will be my happy place for a long, long time. This should be even better this year given how much she's gone for broke. She knows if the Tories don't get in she's in trouble Isomermaid fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Jel Shaker posted:She could prerecord the next ten years of the things with just variations of the same banality. She never names names or outs perverts  Maybe that's what she's already done
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I'm cheering for you harder than you can possibly believe. You all jammy bastards represent the best that the UK and socialism can produce in tyool 2019 and you should all be proud to have steered so clear in an absolute sea of shite. Even of you don't get an absolute majority the reestablishment of a vibrant left is a victory with huge implications. It's going to be great.
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I’ve traditionally been a “don’t get your hopes up too much” kind of guy, and I am honestly feeling quite hopeful about this election. While we are currently living in The Worst Timeline, I just cannot see how the Tories can possibly get a majority based off the last few years. Think about it. The last time they had a majority was under David Cameron in 2015. This is the time where the Blairites were still fully in control of Labour and making a right hash of things, and while UKIP was still a thing the Lib Dem vote totally collapsed and bled a lot of it to the Tories. The press was going in hard against Labour despite them chasing the Tories to the right and after all that their majority was loving tiny. Keep in mind as well that David Cameron was a far better campaigner and public speaker than anyone they’ve been able to field since. Theresa May went into her election being revered by the press, Tories, gammons, melts and liberals as being the next Thatcher on a chest thumping “WOOOO BREXIT” high. According to that same press, May was the most popular prime minister since Winston Churchill, and the press went in hard against Labour getting increasingly shrill and unhinged as time went on. She made a right fuckup of her campaign of course, but the media being what they are and the nature of the Tory voting base blunted that somewhat. The media were awash with predictions of a massive Tory majority because of The Will of The People and wanting her vision of Brexit. She lost her majority – despite the relentless negative campaigning by the press against Labour and opinion polls predicting a Labour wipeout. Despite devouring almost the entirety of the UKIP vote and cruising on that Brexit high. Now we get to 2019 and we see the same relentless negative media coverage against Labour and the same chest thumping predictions of the Tories winning. Except:
I may be talking out my arse of course, but Labour base is mobilised and the message is getting out there. Personally I think the Tories being the largest party in a hung parliament is their absolute best case scenario, and in either case we are not going away if the outcome is less than favourable to us. My personal belief is that millennials and zoomers will become as loyal to the Labour vote as boomers and gen X are to the Tories. They became lifelong tories because of rubbish bins and being able to buy their council house, and millennials and zoomers will become lifelong Labour voters because of the utterly lovely hand we’ve been dealt generationally, and the insulting dismissive attitude of previous generations when the issue gets raised. I mean, gently caress, I’m a fully paid up member of the Labour party with a membership card and everything. If you could travel back in time to 2014 and told younger me that I’d join a political party I’d laugh in your face. Change is coming folks, what we are witnessing now is the desperate kicking and screaming of a generation and class trying to hold onto their power and beliefs in a changing world. They aren’t going to go quietly, so we must make sure we can shout louder than they do.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Laura K's face when she was reading out the results of the exit poll will be my happy place for a long, long time. Same but that oval office Kinnock's face.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:My personal belief is that millennials and zoomers will become as loyal to the Labour vote as boomers and gen X are to the Tories. They became lifelong tories because of rubbish bins and being able to buy their council house, and millennials and zoomers will become lifelong Labour voters because of the utterly lovely hand we’ve been dealt generationally, and the insulting dismissive attitude of previous generations when the issue gets raised. I think this is a good way to look at it, it's hard not to view the last five/ten years as a traumatic event for us and younger. They might remember the strikes and power cuts, but we remember the humiliation their society heaps on us. We remember working so they can gorge themselves on our labour, we remember they did nothing but laugh at our pain.
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