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There was a time when DEFY attempted the "ref's discretion in order to keep things going" thing. They mostly stopped over a year ago because the ref who was most lenient began to be booed heavily by the crowd for that leniency. Still gets that reaction partly out of tradition and partly after regulars who never let that go. When Aubrey let things go she would do what she did to Jericho during the first championship match. People were accepting of that.
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Dec 6, 2019 01:59
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ICHIBAHN posted:Thing is but, who gives a gently caress? Anyone who loves or hates njpw does so regardless of the refs. Red Shoes rules, you absolute nonce
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Dec 6, 2019 02:10
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Unrelated to anything else, Chris Benoit received 115 points and finished 12th in the voting for the 2007 Thesz/Flair Award.
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Gumball Gumption posted:This is actually worth complaining about. Biting is too gross and weird to be something you do every single match and then don't get called out for it. Him and Moxley both need to save the biting for big matches. Biting and finger break spots are stupid in regular matches. Hardcore matches are whatever but neither should just be legal.
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Dec 6, 2019 02:51
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they aren't finger breaking spots. they're manipulating the joint in such a way that the gasses escape at high velocity and make a loud popping or cracking sound that is picked up by the ring microphone due to being cupped from above by the person employing the maneuver. the joints being manipulated are not the normal 'knuckle popping' ones that people do to themselves but the smaller ones above that which rarely if ever receive the same treatment and are very sensitive and surrounded by nerves. it doesn't hurt that bad for long but it can throw the opponent off their game because it really smarts for a few seconds
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Dec 6, 2019 02:53
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TheKingslayer posted:Biting and finger break spots are stupid in regular matches. Hardcore matches are whatever but neither should just be legal. But then they just end the match? If the fans pop who cares.
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Dec 6, 2019 02:54
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punches? that can easily break any of the fourteen facial bones or any of the teeth. could damage an eye; maybe even permanently. that should be a DQ. dairy queen that is. old diarrhea quarry if you eat the food from that 'Fast Food' restaurant chain. that's my experience. ate one of them chicken strip baskets with texas toast in it and it must have been all the grease or perhaps the unsanitary working conditions but i shitt*d all over the place back at the house, big time.
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Dec 6, 2019 02:58
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Punch McLightning posted:Unrelated to anything else, Chris Benoit received 115 points and finished 12th in the voting for the 2007 Thesz/Flair Award. He really put over MVP card that last year
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Dec 6, 2019 03:53
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:The rules not mattering actually removes a lot of incredibly useful and important storytelling tools. Yeah, the problem is AEW has a "no DQ" policy, not a "don't cheat in front of the ref" policy. There's so many ways to cheat smart that aren't been used, it just makes it seem like cheating is the smart thing to do.
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Dec 6, 2019 04:02
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My issue is the ways they're distracting the ref or are trying to cheat are often the most contrived, dumb-looking thing. It takes me out of the match.
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Dec 6, 2019 04:51
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Refs should have bodycams like the pigs they are, can't trust em
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AEW should hire El Hijo Del Tirantes.
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Dec 6, 2019 05:49
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Punch McLightning posted:Unrelated to anything else, Chris Benoit received 115 points and finished 12th in the voting for the 2007 Thesz/Flair Award. Yeah, but he was nowhere in 2008. Audiences are so fickle.
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Dec 6, 2019 07:20
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Havok sucks but idk man if you don’t love him staple gunning his fine cheques to people’s heads maybe pro wrestling isn’t for you
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I personally like the idea that referees are reluctant to DQ people and try to find other ways of punishing offences to avoid doing it. Can be little things like not counting falls resulting from interference or things like that; its similar to football referees having the flexibility based on the offence of how exactly to handle it: if its terrible then its a red card and you stop instantly; for minor things that you shouldn't give a card for you play advantage and then bring it back for a free kick if the team that was fouled again doesn't have an advantage. In wrestling if the referee sees someone do something sort of illegal but which wasn't blatantly so One thing that I'd actually like to see brought into wrestling generally was the old "public warning" thing from old-school British wrestling. Basically the way that worked was that for minor rules breaking rather than disqualifying someone or just ignoring the offence they'd warn the wrestler, with three official warnings like that resulting in a DQ. Its a way of getting the best of both worlds: you can do spots where people cheat and do illegal things where the referee sees them and have an out where the referee can do something to look credible while keeping the match going. At some point you'd have to actually do a DQ finish resulting from the warnings through to establish it and I can't think of a worse finish but I'm sure you can do it in like a 2 minute match very quickly. Its all about trying to find a balance between enforcing the rules strictly at the risk of either preventing yourself from doing heel shenanigans or having lame DQs for people not leaving the run after a 10 count following a tag; and the rules legit not mattering and people looking like goofs for not cheating and I think some form of warning system before you get to DQs is a very interesting way to think about doing it. Also AEW should totally just adopt Lucha tag rules: it'd allow them to do everything they clearly want to do in tag team matches and would eliminate a lot of the boring rules issues you have. Making a big deal out of the 10 count thing and then never doing anything with it is just giving people an excuse to moan about it.
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Dec 6, 2019 12:20
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Wrestling rules. Wrestling... rules. The rules of wrestling.
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Dec 6, 2019 12:25
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lol at Bryan's meltdown over BARELY
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IceAgeComing posted:I personally like the idea that referees are reluctant to DQ people and try to find other ways of punishing offences to avoid doing it. Can be little things like not counting falls resulting from interference or things like that; its similar to football referees having the flexibility based on the offence of how exactly to handle it: if its terrible then its a red card and you stop instantly; for minor things that you shouldn't give a card for you play advantage and then bring it back for a free kick if the team that was fouled again doesn't have an advantage. In wrestling if the referee sees someone do something sort of illegal but which wasn't blatantly so Best use of that was Chuck Taylor vs ZSJ for the PWG championship. If Chuck didn't win the title he was going to leave so at one point Zack hit him with the belt and got caught, he asked if the ref was going to DQ him and he didn't but when he goes for the pin the ref goes "1, 2, I'm not counting that you hit him with the loving belt!"
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Dec 6, 2019 16:14
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So far the best ref distraction I've ever seen was a dude getting buried facefirst into an ample chest. Its not that you can't hear anything, you just don't care cuz boobies.
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Dec 6, 2019 16:47
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Man the New Day were so good as heels
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Low Desert Punk posted:lol at Bryan's meltdown over BARELY Strong Dave energy on Bryan's twitter today: https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1202856804180381696
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Dec 6, 2019 16:56
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https://twitter.com/Fumihikodayo/status/1202965869300613121
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Dec 6, 2019 17:43
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I would love to have a wrestling journalist who isn't constantly whining about "easily offended" people.
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Dec 6, 2019 18:29
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Hopkins FBI posted:I would love to have a wrestling journalist who isn't constantly whining about "easily offended" people. This is a lot of journalists now, wrestling or not. Though it comes off particularly funny coming from Bryan, a man flying off the handle because someone suggested a synonym.
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Dec 6, 2019 18:34
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its gotten to a point where the purveyors of wrestling news are so tiresome i really don't care to see whats going on behind the scenes. old boomer cornette getting canned yet again really broke daves brain. and bryan is very bryan.
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Dec 6, 2019 19:50
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Joey McChrist posted:its gotten to a point where the purveyors of wrestling news are so tiresome i really don't care to see whats going on behind the scenes. old boomer cornette getting canned yet again really broke daves brain. and bryan is very bryan. most of the behinds the scenes stuff today is so very unsurprising its hard to make it newsworthy or important. "blah blah is picked to be champ" yeah dude, we watch the show. we can tell "WWE did a racist thing" they did a racist thing last week "ROH abuses its wrestlers" the booker pretends not to speak english when he gets too nervous, what do you expect?
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Dec 6, 2019 19:53
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Yeah, I'm still listening to Dave and Bryan but it feels like something is wrong in the shed full of papers that Dave makes them live in. A lot of dumb stupid takes on poo poo that I feel like they were a lot better about in the past.
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Dec 6, 2019 19:53
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Boomers.
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Anyone who is uncertain as to where Dave and Bryan stand on racial matters should see these posts by their admin Crapgame13 AKA Jeff Hawkins. This is the man that they picked to be the main moderator on their political forum before closing and someone that still moderates the F4W board today. They have been sent these posts, so D/B know: These are pretty nasty, so I'm adding a page or so of dots as a trigger warning, so that people can skip the blatant racism and slurs ahead posted by an F4W employee, if they want to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/crapgame13$20nigger/rec.sport.pro-wrestling/7tvpe90Vzpk/V2KjRx4Iz2UJ   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/crapgame13$20kike%7Csort:date/rec.sport.pro-wrestling/DS924lVvgI4/WhH0LDsqCQAJ  Edit:$ seems to break the link format, so these links will have to be copied and pasted collocation fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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Dec 6, 2019 20:01
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Jesus that post got me loving triggered woof.
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Spikegal posted:Jesus that post got me loving triggered woof. Adding a /tw page of dots now. My bad.
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 And just post them as links with a warning, idiot. Put  around them and they won't auto-render.
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Dec 6, 2019 20:43
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Anyone get those to load and get the date on those? Rec.sport.pro-wrestling posts might be 25 years old
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Dec 6, 2019 20:43
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mkay0 posted:Anyone get those to load and get the date on those? The last one seems to be from March of last year.
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Dec 6, 2019 20:45
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mkay0 posted:Anyone get those to load and get the date on those? I didn't even know that people still posted there until someone told me that he did. The k***s post has the date in the screenshot (2018) which coincides with when he was the admin of F4W's political forum. The n*****s posts do not have the date in the screenshot, but they were from 2012. There is even worse stuff going further back, but I figured that posting the most recent made the most sense.
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Dec 6, 2019 20:46
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Thank god they're not from the dark ages of 1994, a year when it was totally acceptable and normal and good to use slurs.
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Dec 6, 2019 20:48
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I am shocked and appalled by the conduct of Crapgame13.
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Dec 6, 2019 20:53
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Hopkins FBI posted:I am shocked and appalled by the conduct of Crapgame13. F4W moderator, Crapgame13, which is the only reason that it matters. Though, he is also on Voices of Wrestling/VOW, I believe.
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