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mlmp08 posted:Ah, the first cop post on this page worthy of your comment, I see Do I need to say "I disagree with this approach and I think these guys are bad" to every bad cop post you make?
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Chichevache posted:Do I need to say "I disagree with this approach and I think these guys are bad" to every bad cop post you make? That would be unrealistic, but the silence is more evident when your posts are mostly just that you think everyone is too mean to cops and also that you are one of the Good Ones, and we should be so thankful. Or when you see a cop behaving badly, you say they're No True Copsman.
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mlmp08 posted:Or when you see a cop behaving badly, you say they're No True Copsman. 
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"This is how Operators work right? Just blast away?"
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mlmp08 posted:That would be unrealistic, but the silence is more evident when your posts are mostly just that you think everyone is too mean to cops and also that you are one of the Good Ones, and we should be so thankful. Or when you see a cop behaving badly, you say they're No True Copsman. Gotcha. You just want to scream online today.
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I'm just amused that literal entire class of nazi salute cops and cops firing wildly in a crowded area didn't get a peep out of you but the idea of cops not having as many guns was cause of you starting a tiff.
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mlmp08 posted:I'm just amused that literal entire class of nazi salute cops and cops firing wildly in a crowded area didn't get a peep out of you but the idea of cops not having as many guns was cause of you starting a tiff. Man, if you just want to scream into the void you can use twitter. Personally, that doesn't make me feel better, so I dont see the need to quote every post like the ones you mentioned and go "yup, they bad". It doesn't do anything but prompt you and yours to come scream some more about how I'm a fascist because of your preconceptions about what I do for a living. Edit Btw you didnt specifically disavow the hostage takers. Your silence regarding their terrible actions speaks volumes about your character and clearly you'd rather use the death of the poor UPS driver to make a point, you sociopathic monster. 
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mlmp08 posted:That would be unrealistic, but the silence is more evident when your posts are mostly just that you think everyone is too mean to cops and also that you are one of the Good Ones, and we should be so thankful. Or when you see a cop behaving badly, you say they're No True Copsman. We're posting on SA. I would think that based on our posting history here you wouod know by now that we'd decry every single shitfuck thing that was posted in the last page. Guess I'll go through them, one by one. EBB posted:https://twitter.com/Vote4Beckford/status/1202363747370721281?s=20 gently caress that entitled racist white oval office, and gently caress the cops that threatened the guy for trying to report it. I'm sure that someone's gonna report me for using that word but if she doesn't qualify then who the gently caress does? gently caress that department, gently caress all moto thin blue line bullshit, and gently caress any dept that appropriates the TBL for insignia or uniforms or vehicles. It's tacky as gently caress, and alienates a ton of people. pantslesswithwolves posted:Meanwhile gently caress all Nazis, neo nazis, and white supremacists. They have no place breathing, much less being in positions of power. They are wastes of space. Fire all of these fucks. EBB posted:Two suspects hijack a UPS truck, cops murder the UPS driver being held hostage and an innocent bystander FIRING INTO TRAFFIC These idiots deserve to be charged with negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter, or whatever their jurisdiction's equivalent is. This was reckless as all gently caress, and really, really loving stupid. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bored As gently caress posted:gently caress that entitled racist white oval office, and gently caress the cops that threatened the guy for trying to report it. Sir, I have Crisis Intervention Team training and that woman clearly appears to be in the middle of a psychotic break or substance abuse issues (probably caused by a psychotic break). Please do not stigmatize her or her illness. I'm sure she's actually a great person.
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Based on the article and video, it looks like the police opened fire on the truck first. Why? Given that there were hostages in a soft skin vehicle and it was in an area full of bystanders, wouldn’t it have made more tactical sense to exercise patience instead of shooting high velocity rounds that would penetrate both sides of the vehicle as well as probably at least two cars on either side of it? Why couldn’t they have pulled the cruisers back, followed it with a heli, and waited until the truck ran out of gas or wrecked and then negotiated a surrender? And all this over a bunch of lovely stolen jewelry? Frankly it seems like a miracle that more bystanders weren’t killed.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Based on the article and video, it looks like the police opened fire on the truck first. Why? Given that there were hostages in a soft skin vehicle and it was in an area full of bystanders, wouldn’t it have made more tactical sense to exercise patience instead of shooting high velocity rounds that would penetrate both sides of the vehicle as well as probably at least two cars on either side of it? Why couldn’t they have pulled the cruisers back, followed it with a heli, and waited until the truck ran out of gas or wrecked and then negotiated a surrender? Unless they were shooting indiscriminately as they drove I don't see a reason to engage them. As you said, it looks like the cops opened fire first, which would definitely be bad. But that doesn't necessarily mean the hostage takers hadn't been shooting as they fled (I dont see anything indicating they were, but a helicopter video is hardly the whole story, so I'm not ruling out the possibility based only on the short clip we have). If they were behaving like active shooters amidst all those cars then it would have been a lose lose situation with no good choices that I could think of.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Based on the article and video, it looks like the police opened fire on the truck first. Why? Given that there were hostages in a soft skin vehicle and it was in an area full of bystanders, wouldn’t it have made more tactical sense to exercise patience instead of shooting high velocity rounds that would penetrate both sides of the vehicle as well as probably at least two cars on either side of it? Why couldn’t they have pulled the cruisers back, followed it with a heli, and waited until the truck ran out of gas or wrecked and then negotiated a surrender? the terror is the point. or a more serious answer is decades of sheep dog thin blue line just want to get home safe war on cops bullshit and a public that is mostly ok with everyone badge wearing coward in the country murdering their way through the day
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Bored As gently caress posted:gently caress that entitled racist white oval office I'm starting to think you have a problem with women. Keep it the gently caress out of GIP.
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McNally posted:https://twitter.com/MiramarPD/status/1202731182720458752?s=20 The tweet got deleted was that in response to the parkland cop that nope'd out and just get stuck in limbo or something?
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Stravag posted:The tweet got deleted was that in response to the parkland cop that nope'd out and just get stuck in limbo or something? 
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Well. Im glad that we have civilians paid to stand by to give their lives to protect cops in need
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EBB posted:Two suspects hijack a UPS truck, cops murder the UPS driver being held hostage and an innocent bystander FIRING INTO TRAFFIC Not only did the straight up murder that driver, look at the car behind the truck. They had no loving idea what was in their backstop, which is to say they were unloading with handguns and what looks to be an AR into moving traffic, and another bystander died because of it. Chichevache posted:Unless they were shooting indiscriminately as they drove I don't see a reason to engage them. As you said, it looks like the cops opened fire first, which would definitely be bad. But that doesn't necessarily mean the hostage takers hadn't been shooting as they fled (I dont see anything indicating they were, but a helicopter video is hardly the whole story, so I'm not ruling out the possibility based only on the short clip we have). If you bend over backwards any further to justify police firing indiscriminately into a crowded situation with a backdrop of bystanders, which resulted in the deaths of both the hostage and one of said bystanders, you're going to strain something and end up on paid leave with the shooters. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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Chichevache posted:Man, if you just want to scream into the void you can use twitter. Personally, that doesn't make me feel better, so I dont see the need to quote every post like the ones you mentioned and go "yup, they bad". It doesn't do anything but prompt you and yours to come scream some more about how I'm a fascist because of your preconceptions about what I do for a living. Who killed the UPS driver? And an innocent bystander?
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I think the first people who should be disavowed are the only people who killed innocent people, but that’s just me.
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I'm at the point where if a mass shooting situation happened, I probably would not call the police because it would decrease my chances of survival. That's what the past two years has shown us.
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Basically I'm saying that US cops are about as good as Spetznaz pumping fentanyl into a theater
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Liquid Communism posted:
Literally the first thing I said was it was a bad shooting, dipshit. You are so eager to squeeze some posts off that you're tunnelvisioning and not being aware of the entire comment.
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Chichevache posted:Literally the first thing I said was it was a bad shooting, dipshit. False
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colachute posted:False You're right, first I answered the question a poster asked, then I said the shooting was bad. Chichevache posted:Unless they were shooting indiscriminately as they drove I don't see a reason to engage them. As you said, it looks like the cops opened fire first, which would definitely be bad. But that doesn't necessarily mean the hostage takers hadn't been shooting as they fled (I dont see anything indicating they were, but a helicopter video is hardly the whole story, so I'm not ruling out the possibility based only on the short clip we have).
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Chichevache posted:You're right, first I answered the question a poster asked, then I said the shooting was bad. If the hostage takers were shooting at the cops first, and the cops killed two innocent people when firing back, then they (the cops) shouldn’t have done that. Sorry. There’s no “but the bad guys started it!!” when the cops are the only people with a body count of innocent people in the situation. And you’re part of the problem for bringing that dumb “we don’t have the whole story from the footage” poo poo up. The facts are this: the cops killed two innocent people. Everything else is pretty much irrelevant. But because you don’t think that is exactly why poo poo like this is allowed to happen. colachute fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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colachute posted:If the hostage takers were shooting at the cops first, and the cops killed two innocent people when firing back, then they shouldn’t have done that. If the hijackers weren't shooting at anyone then the cops should not have engaged them at all while innocent people were in the backdrop. I 100% agree with that and if my previous post was not clear enough, that was the intent of it. I hope you understood that this time, cole.
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Chichevache posted:If the hijackers weren't shooting at anyone then the cops should not have engaged them at all while innocent people were in the backdrop. I 100% agree with that and if my previous post was not clear enough, that was the intent of it. I hope you understood that this time, cole. You said “it doesn’t necessarily mean the hostage takers hadn’t been shooting” (verbatim quote) when that is 100% loving irrelevant when the cops killed two innocent people. And bringing up dumb poo poo like that is why people say you are part of the problem even if you’re not the one pulling the trigger. Why bring that up? To leave open the possibility of justifying it? There is zero justification for police killing innocent people. Do you read your own goddamn posts? colachute fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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colachute posted:You said “it doesn’t necessarily mean the hostage takers hasn’t been shooting” (verbatim quote) when that is 100% loving irrelevant when the cops killed two innocent people. And bringing up dumb poo poo like that is why people say you are part of the problem even if you’re not the one pulling the trigger. Why bring that up? To leave open the possibility of justifying it? There is zero justification for police killing innocent people. If you read the whole conversation, cole, the previous poster asked why the cops would instigate a shootout in an area with so many innocent bystanders around. He made the- very good- suggestion of using a helicopter to follow the hostage takers until they were in a safer area. So I put forward the only reason that I would ever engage with people like that in a crowded area: if they were behaving like active shooters and indiscriminately shooting into the crowd. I also said that i did not see anything in that video to indicate that those hostage takers were doing that, and with the very limited information we currently have i don't see anything to make me believe they were. Once again, cole, I think the cops grossly, and probably criminally, mishandled the situation based on the very limited amount of information we have.
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You’re part of the problem dude. You don’t know it and that is why it’s a problem. Cops killing innocent people is bad. That’s all you have to say and people won’t think you’re part of the problem (as much anyway) And stop with the condescending bullshit with my name, unless you want me to just address you as “pig” colachute fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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EBB posted:Basically I'm saying that US cops are about as good as Spetznaz pumping fentanyl into a theater At least Spetsnaz knows how to shoot straight.
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The cops used random citizens' cars as cover while shooting up the UPS truck. Literally used uninvolved drivers as human shields. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=924FkZR4EM0
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SimonCat posted:The cops used random citizens' cars as cover while shooting up the UPS truck. Literally used uninvolved drivers as human shields. I’m not joking when I say people watch Lethal Weapon and think “that’s what it’s like to be a cop and that’s what I want to do.” And now that’s what they are doing.
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Fallom posted:The police chief immediately putting 100% of his support behind the shooters means we’ll probably be seeing more of this throughout the country. I’m surprised they didn’t even go with the “lack of training” excuse this time. UPS thanked the cops.
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