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Between this election and the Musk libel case they really are going all out to prove that rich people can do whatever the gently caress they want with no consequences, aren't they? In 1997 nothing at all loving happened, alright?
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hump day bitches! posted:People flying the rebel flag and the gently caress off we are full in the back on their utes dont give two shits about optimal use of space or resources , it's about being chinese or thai.They would be more than happy with increasing the population of white people.Eco fascism hasn't arrived here yet.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
i was born in 1997, OP
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ItohRespectArmy posted:i was born in 1997, OP I stand by my point.
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OwlFancier posted:What a surprise the poll is just a large heap of parrots which repeat back what they've been told by the press. We tell you what to think then we ask you what to think and then we report on that to tell you what to think again. This is a productive use of everybody's time. Owlie showing their bias here, IMO. You'd have been happy if it was owls rather than parrots, I'm sure. 
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ItohRespectArmy posted:i was born in 1997, OP This post makes me feel vèry old. And I'm pretty sure at under thirty I'm one of the younger posters ITT.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:i was born in 1997, OP i can't beleive they let babys post in here
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Kurtofan posted:i can't beleive they let babys post in here A Blair babby. A blabby.
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Ageing is something that happens to the body, old is a state of mind. That being said, I thought I had quantum tunneled into a kindergarten the first time I walked into my undergrad lectures this year, nearly floored me how young they look.
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At least something good happened in 97
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Another 97 poster checking in - I've been reading UKMT's for almost half my life now. Quite a run for a dead comedy forum.
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Kurtofan posted:i can't beleive they let babys post in here I genuinely thought for a minute, "are twelve year olds allowed SA accounts?" but apparently they are 22 People born after the twin towers got hit will be voting in this election
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Oh great, we now have our own Poundland Russiagate, with the crack cyber security team of reddit identifying the nhs leaks on Russia because he spelled like a bit ruskie
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Are they getting their gaslights prepared for if the Russia report leaks?
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I'm starting to get a distinct Ron Paul 08 vibe off of some Labour supporters now, and it's worrying me.
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Jeremy Corbyn: Yes We Can
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm starting to get a distinct Ron Paul 08 vibe off of some Labour supporters now, and it's worrying me. Can you expand on this? I wasn't really paying attention to the Ron Paul "phenomenon".
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mainly i'm just surprised people who weren't at least teenagers on the internet in ca. 2005 have even heard of something awful at all. i knew what it was because when i started out my Posting Career every message board was full of people trying to be like goons. you're not telling me this dead gay website is still relevant to anyone at all outside of it are you
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Maugrim posted:Can you expand on this? I wasn't really paying attention to the Ron Paul "phenomenon". Ludicrous over optimism
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Angepain posted:mainly i'm just surprised people who weren't at least teenagers on the internet in ca. 2005 have even heard of something awful at all. i knew what it was because when i started out my Posting Career every message board was full of people trying to be like goons. you're not telling me this dead gay website is still relevant to anyone at all outside of it are you My Posting Career is a far right banned SA user offshoot lol
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Maugrim posted:Can you expand on this? I wasn't really paying attention to the Ron Paul "phenomenon". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmYMzxA_U-c This is a startling accurate simulation of what every political discussion online turned into in 2008. It's not helpful to this discussion but I giggle every time. More seriously it's things like: - constant online polls - which they brigade, then point at as proof of their guy's real popularity - absolute refusal to understand the reasons why their guy isn't at 100% approval, other than "media bias" - real or imagined - elevating their guy and his image way above what he actually stands for - wanting a victory not for what good it would bring but for the chance to gloat at their political and press enemies and families and a couple of other things that are much harder to pin down. Obviously there are some very important differences between the two, particularly the actual underlying politics and that this is a tiny proportion of Labour supporters compared to the vast majority of Paul supporters, and that the ratio of real to imagined bias is very different, but the tone of a lot of discussion last night and this morning, particularly on Twitter but also here, is veering dangerously into that territory. If anyone starts suggesting we hire a blimp to fly over polling stations I'll get worried. I'm not being 100% serious about the comparison but scrolling past the third or fourth "real" poll being presented on Twitter as gospel this morning just made the connection in my mind and now I can't unsee it.
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You know, it occurs to me that we really need the youth vote this election, so I probably shouldn't make fun of posters for being young. And more importantly, they might make fun of me for being old  
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Labour has a far better chance of forming a government than Ron Paul ever had of becoming president, and optimism is required to keep people motivated. Feels more like the Obama campaign to me, with the strong ground game/50 state strategy/get out the vote efforts. I wish Labour actually had the funds to campaign at full pelt in every single seat! What I really don't like is how similarly our elections these days are treated in the media to US presidential campaigns - it's really not analogous and I'm blaming Blair for it. Do away with the office of PM altogether imo
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Jose posted:My Posting Career is a far right banned SA user offshoot lol oh god that was a fun rabbit hole to look into on a saturday morning. reference was unintentional in case anyone's wondering
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Barry Foster posted:Ludicrous over optimism What's the point in being defeatist? If we lose we're going to feel like poo poo afterwards anyway and being upbeat is great for campaign morale going into the last week. The last thing we need is a bunch of loving Eeyores out knocking on doors.
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People believe cynicism and pessimism is somehow a more sophisticated political worldview. In reality it's usually the sign of a dullard
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The line between optimism and delusion will be placed differently by everyone. All I can say is that everything I've seen ITT and outside it gives me confidence that we can win this.
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Necrothatcher posted:What's the point in being defeatist? If we lose we're going to feel like poo poo afterwards anyway and being upbeat is great for campaign morale going into the last week. Yeah this.
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Necrothatcher posted:What's the point in being defeatist? If we lose we're going to feel like poo poo afterwards anyway and being upbeat is great for campaign morale going into the last week. There's optimism and there's delusion, and the people crowing about Twitter polls are definitely in the latter camp.
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I registered when I was 18, and I'm still shocked that there are people itt younger than me
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All optimism is delusional if you think about it enough.
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Ergo calling Musk a pedo isn't defamation, right?
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OwlFancier posted:All optimism is delusional if you think about it enough. All thought is delusion if you think about it hard enough 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:There's optimism and there's delusion, and the people crowing about Twitter polls are definitely in the latter camp. Who's crowing about twitter polls?
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The only issue with optimism is that a loss will be that little bit more crushing. I'd still prefer that over acting like it's all over though.
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Angepain posted:mainly i'm just surprised people who weren't at least teenagers on the internet in ca. 2005 have even heard of something awful at all. i knew what it was because when i started out my Posting Career every message board was full of people trying to be like goons. you're not telling me this dead gay website is still relevant to anyone at all outside of it are you Let's play, mostly. Got linked here from another site doing a LP-equivalent, fell into the SA rabbit hole because it's huge compared to most web forums. But that was 10 years ago now (oh god) - others just got on the youtubes these days And yea, I don't think Corbyn can get more than minority government even if the predictions are wildly off (which I hope they are, but 2017 may be deceiving us)
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If it makes you happy and makes you do good things you can be as delusional as you want as far as I'm concerned.Nothingtoseehere posted:And yea, I don't think Corbyn can get more than minority government even if the predictions are wildly off (which I hope they are, but 2017 may be deceiving us) I still think a minority government would be a step to victory, because that'd be a good reason for a LD/SNP/Lab effort extend the franchise and block brexit in some way which would hamstring the tories.
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