ThomasPaine posted:

ultraleft twitter is at it again

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/1202887432309497856?s=19

XMNN posted:

also my next door neighbour who's nice, and I've never had any reason to suspect was a massive tory, but isn't exactly what you'd picture as a typical labour voter (retired vet, goes skiing a lot) has got a garden stake

Open Layer posted:

Long time lurker first time poster.

De-lurking to say that I've received 13 leaflets from the Lib Dems in the last couple of weeks, anyone received more than that?

ThomasPaine posted:

ultraleft twitter is at it again

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/1202887432309497856?s=19

zhar posted:

What is Labour's position on inheritance tax? All I could find was a plan to reverse Osborne's 2015 cut, is that it so far?

Am I right in remembering something about McDonnell saying that they wanted to tax the portion going to each beneficiary (thus less tax for multiple beneficiaries) vs the whole estate at once?

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1203290609932480512?s=19

Azza Bamboo posted:

ThomasPaine posted:

I would actually just blow my load in one second from a position of complete flaccidity

quote:

UK politicians face ‘steep learning curve’ on EU trade
Deal likely to be ‘far inferior’ to bloc membership, says Phil Hogan

Europe’s new trade commissioner has warned that Britain’s politicians face a steep “learning curve” to understand the realities of Brexit, stressing that the trade deal sought by Boris Johnson will be “far inferior” to membership of the EU.

Phil Hogan said in a speech to business leaders in Dublin on Friday that it was “regrettable” that “even at this late stage, many members of the British parliament and media have still not woken up to this fact”.

“Unfortunately, the learning curve remains very wide,” he said, warning that there was no guarantee that a trade agreement would be in place by the end of 2020, when Britain’s post-Brexit transition period is set to end.

The intervention is the first time that the Irish politician has set out his position on Brexit since taking over as trade commissioner on December 1. Should Britain leave the EU as planned on January 31 2020, Mr Hogan would lead the union’s efforts to broker a trade deal with the UK.

His comments reflect a wider concern in Brussels that Britain’s politicians have failed to spell out to the public what it will really mean to leave the EU’s internal market and customs union and move to an economic relationship based on a trade agreement.

While Mr Johnson has spoken of securing a “fantastic” future relationship with the EU, officials in Brussels note that Britain’s departure will require the creation of a hard border for trade in goods and restrictions on trade in services that a deal cannot erase.

The EU is also worried that the 11-month timeframe allocated by Mr Johnson to reach an agreement will be insufficient. The prime minister has refused to extend the country’s post-Brexit transition period beyond the end of 2020.

“The risk of Brexit happening without a ratified deal still exists,” Mr Hogan said. “It could happen at the end of January, or at the end of 2020.”

EU diplomats this week decided to remove a commitment to seek a deal within that timeframe from a draft statement that will be adopted by leaders from the other 27 EU nations next week.

France was among the countries that argued for the deletion on the grounds that the union should not be rushed because of Mr Johnson’s choices.

Mr Hogan said previous comments he had made, indicating the possibility of quick progress towards a trade deal, had been taken “out of context” by the UK press.

Leading Conservative ministers such as foreign secretary Dominic Raab seized on remarks Mr Hogan made to Ireland’s RTE broadcaster last month that the EU could do a deal “more quickly” with the UK than with other countries, arguing it showed the realism of Boris Johnson’s Brexit plans.

But Mr Hogan said that “the truth is we have no accurate way to predict how long it will take to negotiate a deal with the UK because there is no precedent. We are entering completely uncharted waters”.

marktheando posted:

Some kind of deal with the SNP seems likely, but Labour wouldn't be able to get much England only stuff done if they don't have a majority in England.

And about actors, it's probably easier to list the very successful under 40 British actors who aren't really posh- John Boyega and James McAvoy are the only two I can think of. Older very successful British actors are quite often from not posh backgrounds. Almost like something happened in the 1980s that destroyed opportunities for working class and lower middle class actors.

Jollity Farm posted:

In 1997, people were asking "did you stay up for Portillo?" I think there may even have been a book with that title about the 1997 general election. Anyway, I didn't stay up for Portillo, because I had school in the morning, but now that I'm thirty-seven and an unemployed wretch, I'm hoping that I can stay up to see IDS lose his seat. Would he cry tears, or just make a face like he sat on a dog poo by accident? It'd be worth seeing, for sure.

Apraxin posted:

We have to trust the polls, and if that means living in two realities at once, so be it.
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1203287620849164288

ThomasPaine posted:

yeah, the edging amber rudd gave me in 2017 was great fun while it lasted but this time i'm going to want my happy ending

OwlFancier posted:

I still reckon that was fraud.

Nothingtoseehere posted:

And no members of the local council have spoken out or were bribed to keep their mouth shut? Close elections happen, and recounting till you get consistant results is sensible if it's close. There's no real gain to fraud in that one seat, and it's not like they expected to lose it so could have prepared something ahead of time.

Junior G-man posted:

Brussels, in its own way, once again sending up a Giant Red Flag to the UK during election time about the trade negotiations.

marktheando posted:

Actually James McAvoy is 40 so John Boyega is the only big British acting star under 40 who isn't posh.

Open Layer posted:

Long time lurker first time poster.

De-lurking to say that I've received 13 leaflets from the Lib Dems in the last couple of weeks, anyone received more than that?

Failed Imagineer posted:

Appreciate whoever runs the Praxiscast Twitter trying to introduce Monster Munch discourse to the Chapo boys

https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1203349150370324480?s=19


E:lmao that content warning

OwlFancier posted:

Didn't they have a similar reaction to the shelf of food to go last time they did a UK tour?

And everyone lost their poo poo at the notion of a fridge with no door on it?

kustomkarkommando posted:

Daniel Kaluuya and Taron Egerton are other working class actors I can think of who've "made it big" - there's a couple of others who are on the verge like Jack O'Connell and Aneurin Barnard who've picked up awards but haven't quite landed that big role to push them into Hollywood territory yet

Azza Bamboo posted:

Failed Imagineer posted:

Idk, much as I enjoy Chapo their live podcasts are as dogshit as every other live podcast so I avoid

Jollity Farm posted:

In 1997, people were asking "did you stay up for Portillo?" I think there may even have been a book with that title about the 1997 general election. Anyway, I didn't stay up for Portillo, because I had school in the morning, but now that I'm thirty-seven and an unemployed wretch, I'm hoping that I can stay up to see IDS lose his seat. Would he cry tears, or just make a face like he sat on a dog poo by accident? It'd be worth seeing, for sure.

Open Layer posted:

Long time lurker first time poster.

De-lurking to say that I've received 13 leaflets from the Lib Dems in the last couple of weeks, anyone received more than that?

Azza Bamboo posted:

Azza Bamboo posted:

IDS losing his seat is the start.

I want to see him sweating over Labour's inquiry into the DWP and Atos. The thought of him losing sleep at night because the authorities will be deciding his fate is poetry.