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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

jimmydalad posted:

So I’m at my Niece’s birthday and my family is putting up Dawn Butler’s interview and making fun of labour. Half are voting Tories and the other half are Lib Dem. God help me.

Tell them they'll be laughing on the other side of their face when their daughter can't get to university, can never own her own home, will not have steady employment or any support when she has to start caring for them.

Another page snipe I don't believe it!
Anyway

Russian developers have completed a third phase of flight-testing with the engine designed to power the Ilyushin Il-114-300 turboprop.



Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 8, 2019

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Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
I'm in a pub in my safe as houses Tory seat and there are country people on the next table talking about voting Labour. We passed a torn down vote Tory sign on the way here. They're usually everywhere by this point. It was never going to convince everybody but it feels like the result may be better at least.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Tell them they'll be laughing on the other side of their face when their daughter can't get to university, can never own her own home, will not have steady employment or any support when she has to start caring for them.

My family doesn’t have problems with money so I doubt they’d have issues with that. Harsh realities of this world.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Woke up feeling hungover despite not drinking last night, and way too late to get the train to go canvassing, so instead I've had a pleasant day of light housework and Christmas decorating, and chucked £35 Jezza's way.

Still not made up my mind what to do on election day itself - GOTV in my home constituency is probably a bit of a waste of time (very safe Labour seat), Thurrock is probably the one that could most benefit from the extra pair of hands given the very narrow margin, but at the same time Chingford and Two Cities are both closer and easier to get to and the allure of being able to claim a very small part in IDS' scalp, if it happens, would be awesome. Think I'll probably make up my mind on the morning - if the weather's really poo poo I'll probably gird my loins and head for Thurrock because they really will need the help, otherwise probably head for Chingford even though Two Cities has a much better selection of pubs.

an_mutt
Sep 29, 2010

I was,
I am,
and I remain a soldier!

Sworn to dedicate my heart and soul to the restoration of human kind!

I've noticed a lot more this week how the Lib Dem campaign sign looks like a warning sign. Very ominous and appropriate.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Angepain posted:

I'm currently putting together my personal list of constituencies to keep an eye on during the results, if anyone has any suggestions for constituencies that are interesting or generally might be gained or lost by a thread favourite/enemy/meme let me know. here's my list so far, which may be skewed toward my own narrow interests:

Bolsover - Dennis Skinner
Brighton Pavillion - Caroline Lucas (pretty safe now but you always know it's past time for bed when this seat gets called)
Chingford and Woodford Green - IDS
Cities of London and Westminster - Chuka Umunna
East Dunbartonshire - Jo Swinson
Edinburgh South West - Joanna Cherry (she'll probably win this one and her main opposition is a Tory, but I'm keeping an eye regardless)
Glasgow South - Johann Lamont (labour terf wings is endorsing)
Ilford South - watch Mike Gapes lose
Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath - expelled SNP candidate Neale Hanvey vs. labour
Richmond Park - I'm just staggered that zac goldsmith still has a political career in tyool 2019, even with a 2017 majority of 45 people
Stirling - Conservative majority of 148 in 2017
Uxbridge and South Ruislip - some guy named Boris, seems like a bit of an arse, i'm sure the electorate will do the sensible thing and vote for his opponent

Definitely add all the CUKTIGs to this list, each one of those will be a treat. Unless they’re on there already, I honestly have no clue who’s left in that lot now.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

TACD posted:

Definitely add all the CUKTIGs to this list, each one of those will be a treat. Unless they’re on there already, I honestly have no clue who’s left in that lot now.

Who gives a poo poo about any of them apart from Chuka and our big milky boy?

Kraftwerk
Aug 13, 2011
i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

I'm a Canadian but I've been on the edge of my seat watching this election since the 2017 surprise labour victory.

As a Canadian you have no idea how much I have wished to have a candidate like Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn to vote for, throw money at and volunteer for.

We have two "centre-left" parties and both are essentially neoliberal and inadequate. Which is why I'm hopeful you guys can elect a labour government and show the rest of us it can be done. I've long believed socialist (or social-democratic) societies have to be built internationally, leveraging momentum built in countries culturally similar to yours. We need organizations like momentum here in Canada and in the USA. We need it badly.

So please... please everyone do what you can to get Labour elected... We need this win. It'll send shockwaves abroad.

I watched the last debate and couldn't believe what I was seeing or hearing. My partner, an English teacher and linguistic major by trade was practically shouting at the screen. She may not have felt particularly energized by Corbyn but it was blindingly obvious who was more suitable to govern. Whenever BoJo opened his mouth she kept telling me "What is this guy saying?!? He sounds like Trump! It's just words, hes blasting out words with zero meaning or intent."

Then I saw the polls saying Britain thought Boris won the debate and am left seriously confused how it can be possible. Are these people lead poisoned? How can anyone think Boris won that debate?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Kraftwerk posted:

Then I saw the polls saying Britain thought Boris won the debate and am left seriously confused how it can be possible. Are these people lead poisoned? How can anyone think Boris won that debate?

The polls were lying. It's pure manufacturing consent

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Maugrim posted:

I'll be playing Minecraft and following the election purely via this thread. If the exit poll looks bad I'll just go to bed

Pro strat. I'm going to have a bottle of champagne and a bottle of cheap bourbon for the exit polls. Either way. ..

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Not defending their posts, but just because someone's name on FB is not findable elsewhere doesn't mean anything. I know a number of people (including myself) who do NOT use their 'professional' name on FB. Me because my name is quite rare and there are only about 2 of us in the UK so if you google my name, it's quite likely to be my stuff that comes up. Others because they are teachers, work with offenders, residential psychiatric patients or whatever. (As one got beaten up by a former patient almost 15 years after last caring for that patient, very understandable).

I think all you can do is report to admin and FB. If you report to admin and get nowhere, then if you report to FB enough times the group gets deleted by FB (is that an outcome you would welcome?). If they're actually threatening physical injury then you can report to police.

Thanks. I think one of them is just a Tory and has a legitimate looking account and actually engages in conversation. The other posts trollish content and never responds and has a completely blank account so I suspect less than honest motives.

I've reported the latter to Facebook for now, hopefully they get purged.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
I crawled into a bottle of whiskey in 2015 and by god I'll do the same again

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

feedmegin posted:

Pro strat. I'm going to have a bottle of champagne and a bottle of cheap bourbon for the exit polls. Either way. ..

...those 2 bottles will be mixed into one delicious cocktail served from a small bin filled with ice

E: also disappointing post/user combo

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008
I'm going to stay up for the exit poll and unless it shows potential for at least a Labour minority government I will have a little cry and then go to bed.

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

I'll be going to bed without looking at the exit poll and drinking all day on Friday regardless of the result

zhar
May 3, 2019

Is it better to donate to Labour or Momentum?

Kraftwerk posted:

Then I saw the polls saying Britain thought Boris won the debate and am left seriously confused how it can be possible. Are these people lead poisoned? How can anyone think Boris won that debate?

The Yougov poll polled over 400 over 65s and 36 under 25s, guess which demographic favours Johnson

e: so yes, most people polled will have been lead poisoned

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
I'll have work the next day, so I'll go vote then crack open a bottle of rum, down Cuba libres and play XCom 2 until I need to sleep.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I have my work Xmas lunch on Friday, so... Watch results all night, quick powernap, and then drink for 14 hours? Can't see any potential downside

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

TACD posted:

Definitely add all the CUKTIGs to this list, each one of those will be a treat. Unless they’re on there already, I honestly have no clue who’s left in that lot now.

Two of them aren't standing (cowards), so all that's left is;
Gapes - Miwkford South
Piss Leslie - Nottingham East
Soubry - Broxtowe

Others who were in CUKTIG but fled (excluding Umunna) are;
Heidi Allen - South Cambridgeshire
Luciana Berger - Liverpool Wavertree
Gavin Shuker - Luton South
Angela Smith - Penistone and Stocksbridge
Sarah Wollaston - Totnes

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Who gives a poo poo about any of them apart from Chuka and our big milky boy?

I really want to see Leslie eat poo poo.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




https://twitter.com/jrschlosberg/status/1203695089576554496

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Agenda, much

https://twitter.com/multistable/status/1203230523989954560?s=20

Ed: yeah I get the point that maybe they're trying to get a cross section and finding 'leavers' and folk who did vote labour before but are voting tory now is hard - but frankly don't believe it. They seem to find them easily enough for the voxpops.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Dec 8, 2019

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

A hopeful part of me takes this as a sign they struggle to find such a voter.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Azza Bamboo posted:

A hopeful part of me takes this as a sign they struggle to find such a voter.

they'll just conjure one out of the aether like some kind of right wing daedra.

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


kecske posted:

they'll just conjure one out of the aether like some kind of right wing daedra.

They'll just find lying Tories as per normal.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm sure they'll 'find' one and present them as representatives of the highly significant unicorn demographic.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Pesky Splinter posted:

I really want to see Leslie eat poo poo.

For some reason I thought he wasn't running again, so enthusiastically agreed. Hope the winning Labour candidate starts his acceptance speech with "I'm afraaaaaid...".

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pesky Splinter posted:

Gapes - Miwkford South
Angela Smith - Penistone and Stocksbridge
Please don't make up silly places.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

who the gently caress is this weirdo

https://twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1203677380730085379?s=19

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think they sell the Penistone on late night QVC.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

OwlFancier posted:

I think they sell the Penistone on late night QVC.

isn't that the big jewel that thorin was looking for in the hobbit films

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Why wouldn't you not ask yourself why, if you were not not electable?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

At long last, it is mine,

OwlFancier posted:

the Penistone

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

lol all abi said was "i don't have any ibfluence on the party i just have more twitter followers" (i.e., her online profile doesn't give her any more clout than burnel) and the weirdo is now doing this...

https://twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1203681422852182016?s=19

https://twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1203680982798393345?s=19

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


Why are people so loving stupid and actually believe the media framing of Jeremy Corbyn?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Of.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
think that's one of weetmans hangers on

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Today's crop of lib dem shite is a badly printed 'handwritten' note from Berger.

Did have comrades canvassing though. Apparently our immediate area is good, but it's been harder going across the constituency (Finchley and Golders Green)

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Camrath posted:

can assing

cans dont have flared bases :mad:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

CoolCab posted:

think that's one of weetmans hangers on

Tellingly the first "Who to follow" recommendation I get on her profile is Luke "Var of piss" Akehurst.

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an_mutt
Sep 29, 2010

I was,
I am,
and I remain a soldier!

Sworn to dedicate my heart and soul to the restoration of human kind!

Yeah, I've been catching up with the thread and while it's a little distressing to think about how Labour strongholds like Bolsover are seemingly vulnerable, and that the "traditional white working class" are shifting from Labour to Tory, I think that's not the sign of Tories winning as much as it is a sign of voting patters transforming into something the country hasn't seen before. This election is coming down to the generational gap that will define the transition into the next decade - the old are rich, sociopathic, and are completely unwilling to even contemplate the idea that maybe the lifestyle they've cherished and withheld from others will lead to the demise of their younger relatives. They will vote to protect their own interests and their own blissful ignorance. Young people across the entire country are finally mobilizing to seize democratic representation because we've realised nobody else will, and we are a significant voting block. Just like with Bolsover etc., there are now also Tory "stronghold" seats that - as a result of this surge in youth voting - will be vulnerable to Labour this time around. Uxbridge holds the loving Prime Minister, and had a 10,000+ majority four years ago, but is now a very realistic gain for Labour thanks to what is primarily a socialist youth movement.

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