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George C. Scott Christmas Carol is the truest to the book and isn't just a lovely adaptation of a former adaptation. The book has a severe message and the ones that water that message down are the worst ones. I don't include the ones for kids in my hatred of the bad adaptations, however.
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I really like Patrick Stewart's version despite the obvious flaws that come from being made for television. He's a great Scrooge and the Ghost of Christmas Present is one of my favorites across any of the adaptations.
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Dec 9, 2019 03:48
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Part of my love for the Muppet one is that it does land pretty hard on the poverty theme, considering. You see the little bunny rabbit kid shivering in the freezing cold a few times.
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Dec 9, 2019 03:54
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To hell with the rabbit, it's even worse for meeses.
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Dec 9, 2019 05:17
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George C. Scott is my favorite Scrooge and I think the best adaptation. Michael Caine is a close second though, and while I love the muppet version, I would have loved to see what he could do in a more true version of it. I think I mentioned it last time this movie came up, but he took the role on condition he could play Scrooge straight up, which is exactly what the filmmakers wanted. Got to give him credit for doing such a good job when most of his costars were puppets. I don't know why exactly, but I'm not a huge fan of the Patrick Stewart version. Maybe it's the made for TV pacing but I just can't get into it like others.
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Dec 9, 2019 05:54
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The best version of Christmas Carol is the live one I saw as a kid and when the ghost of Christmas future came out I got so scared I screamed and pissed my pants and ruined the whole night for my entire family.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:38
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The Patrick Stewart version gave me this video so I can't hate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnXRYCoh-Ik
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Dec 9, 2019 07:25
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Arcsquad12 posted:The Patrick Stewart version gave me this video so I can't hate it. This is the reason I trawl the bowels of this site day in and day out.
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Dec 9, 2019 14:28
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I love the Muppet Christmas Carol, but I have to give it to the George C. Scott one, that one is the definitive version in my mind. The Alistair Sim version has my favorite version of reformed Scrooge though. He's just so thrilled that he has a second chance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLMzzX8VuBg The whole movie is on youtube as mentioned above. The "reformation" starts around 1:13.
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Dec 9, 2019 14:29
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Push El Burrito posted:The best version of Christmas Carol is the live one I saw as a kid and when the ghost of Christmas future came out I got so scared I screamed and pissed my pants and ruined the whole night for my entire family. I glanced over this post and I thought you said you creamed your pants and ruined the whole night for your family.
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Dec 9, 2019 15:20
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Cacafuego posted:I glanced over this post and I thought you said you creamed your pants and ruined the whole night for your family. That was actually me, and it only ruined the night because my family are a bunch of prudes who dont understand my relationship with MAI WAIFU, Ms. Piggy.
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Dec 9, 2019 15:30
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Krispy Wafer posted:I always figured they inherited the home from a family member. Which would explain why they had a nicer home than they should have in the original timeline as well as explain why they'd still be living there in the new timeline. They didn’t inherit it, the neighborhood was in a pre-construction planning phase in 1955. They most likely bought the house in what was a brand new neighborhood after they got married, and lived there up to the events of the movie. It’s just one of the things that wasn’t fundamentally changed by his meddling in the past.
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Dec 9, 2019 15:54
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If you're going to be in NYC this Wednesday or Friday, P-Stew is performing his one man version of A Christmas Carol. Two nights only! It's not even sold out, tickets will set you back $500.
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Dec 9, 2019 16:42
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Promoted Pawn posted:They didn’t inherit it, the neighborhood was in a pre-construction planning phase in 1955. They most likely bought the house in what was a brand new neighborhood after they got married, and lived there up to the events of the movie. It’s just one of the things that wasn’t fundamentally changed by his meddling in the past. That just makes me think that George used his money and influence in the second timeline to keep “undesirable” neighbors from staying. And I’m just now realizing that a nerdy pervert born around 1940 who became a rich sci-fi author was probably a real piece of poo poo in the “good” timeline.
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Dec 9, 2019 19:21
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Cat Hatter posted:How dark were they planning on going in the movie where Carol Kane kicks Bill Murray in the balls and beats him with a toaster? I'm really glad this came up. Mrs. Doctor's mom loves Scrooged. She puts it on every year while she puts up her Christmas tree. After our wedding, we were at her house opening gifts and my MIL accidentally knocked a stack of boxes over onto me. Seeing which was on top, I happy shouted "Bitch hit me with a toaster!"
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Dec 9, 2019 19:43
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I'll be honest, Christmas Present was my least favourite in Scrooged. It was just tiresome slapstick and I kind of got bored of her quickly.
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Dec 9, 2019 19:49
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BioEnchanted posted:I'll be honest, Christmas Present was my least favourite in Scrooged. It was just tiresome slapstick and I kind of got bored of her quickly. I'll agree that she's the worst of the three. Past is absolutely amazing and Future is really effective, especially with the static TV face, but Carol Kane is a goddamn treasure and I'll hear nothing otherwise.
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Dec 9, 2019 19:58
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MichiganCubbie posted:I'll agree that she's the worst of the three. Past is absolutely amazing and Future is really effective, especially with the static TV face, but Carol Kane is a goddamn treasure and I'll hear nothing otherwise. 
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Dec 9, 2019 20:05
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Accordion Man posted:As Christmas Carol adaptions go, Richard Williams' animated version is also an underrated adaption like Muppet Christmas Carol. Agreed - a close adaptation to the book and it perfectly apes the style of John Leech's original engravings; right down to perfectly recreating them for a few frames where appropriate.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:24
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Promoted Pawn posted:They didn’t inherit it, the neighborhood was in a pre-construction planning phase in 1955. They most likely bought the house in what was a brand new neighborhood after they got married, and lived there up to the events of the movie. It’s just one of the things that wasn’t fundamentally changed by his meddling in the past. I can’t believe I forgot the whole neighborhood being built in 1955.
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Dec 10, 2019 00:13
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I think you're supposed to use the neighborhood as a barometer of how "good" that universe is. Like how in Biff's rich 1985 the neighborhood is an outright bad neighborhood with bars on the windows.
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Dec 10, 2019 00:31
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muscles like this! posted:I think you're supposed to use the neighborhood as a barometer of how "good" that universe is. Like how in Biff's rich 1985 the neighborhood is an outright bad neighborhood with bars on the windows. Yeah, it’s this. Even in 2015 the cops talk trash about the neighborhood to create that framing, and though the house is full of fancy future-tech, it’s all worn down and some of it needs coaxing to work properly. It might be fantastical to us, but in context it’s supposed to seem like they’re making do with old and improperly maintained stuff.
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Dec 10, 2019 08:02
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A fun subtle moment from the second episode of Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover is they introduce a new Superman played by Brandon Routh as the Donner movie version. Which shows up in a scene where he uses heat vision and they use a completely different older style than what they use for the CW Superman/Supergirl.
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Dec 11, 2019 02:56
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muscles like this! posted:A fun subtle moment from the second episode of Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover is they introduce a new Superman played by Brandon Routh as the Donner movie version. Which shows up in a scene where he uses heat vision and they use a completely different older style than what they use for the CW Superman/Supergirl. The Arrowverse is honestly hilarious about subtle bits of fanservice. I love that Crisis on Infinite Earths itself effectively kinda came from them pranking themselves from the past; The Flash has had a newspaper frontpage from the future as mainly a season 1 plot point, that had an off-handed reference to Crisis on Infinite Earths as one of the lesser headlines. They most likely never intended to actually do anything with that (they actually used the most famous Infinite Crisis Flash scene in season 2 anyway), but then the show just kept going so eventually they had to actually use it.
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Dec 11, 2019 15:00
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I don't watch live action DC stuff because it's generally crap, but god damnit if they didn't pique my interest by getting Kevin loving Conroy in front of a camera. How would a goon go about... ugh... watching all that mess?
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Dec 11, 2019 15:47
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You should be able to stream it from the cw website. There's been 3 episodes so far, with the final 2 coming in a couple weeks.
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Dec 11, 2019 15:51
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All of the participating shows have their previous seasons on U.S. Netflix (except for Batwoman, since this is their first season), so if you really want to watch some complete dumb bullshit, the other crossovers can all be watched in full. I heartily recommend Crisis on Earth-X, their second one, mostly for the sheer volume of cute little character bits they fit into that. The first part of that crossover also kills off, of all people, The Greatest American Hero. That was a weird cameo.
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Dec 11, 2019 16:14
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Legends of Tomorrow is pretty great because after the first season, everyone took a hard look at themselves and said, "Why are we taking this seriously at all???" After that it gets real stupid and real good.
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Dec 11, 2019 16:38
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When Gorilla Grodd shows up to kill (and potentially eat) a college age Barack Obama, you know you have a great show.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:01
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Inzombiac posted:Legends of Tomorrow is pretty great because after the first season, everyone took a hard look at themselves and said, "Why are we taking this seriously at all???" I loving loved the part where they got Denethor from LotR to record lines for them to use in their gambit agains the villain. Somehow. And i don't mean the production crew, i mean the characters from the show went and visited (the actor for) Denethor in-universe and asked him "hey could you say these lines for us?" edit: i think the episode is literally called "Guest starring John Noble" HenryEx has a new favorite as of 17:24 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Dec 11, 2019 17:21
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Inzombiac posted:Legends of Tomorrow is pretty great because after the first season, everyone took a hard look at themselves and said, "Why are we taking this seriously at all???" does it seriously get better? i suffered through season 1 solely for main castmember leonard snart
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Dec 11, 2019 17:32
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Edminster posted:does it seriously get better? i suffered through season 1 solely for main castmember leonard snart “Better” is relative. It’s not a good show by any means but the dumb poo poo they get up to is absolutely hilarious (see above with Grodd trying to kill college Obama) and entertaining. They do not take themselves seriously at all and it makes the show watchable when you realize that
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Dec 11, 2019 18:41
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Here is an example of how seriously late-game Legends takes itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35jMtdrYCSw
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Dec 11, 2019 19:13
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That Grodd Obama thing sounds dreadful
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Dec 11, 2019 19:32
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I've been thinking about the old movie Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, and realised that the movie bookends in an unusual way. It starts with young Jane singing Letter to Daddy, a song about a child misunderstanding what it means to die, and ends with Jane mentally regressing to about that same age, completely losing grip of reality and failing to understand that her sister is actually dying right next to her. There's also a strong irony: she is completely obsessed with reliving her childhood glory, and in a way, her brain acquiesces in the cruelest possible way, by putting her back in the brain of a child.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:51
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Inzombiac posted:Legends of Tomorrow is pretty great because after the first season, everyone took a hard look at themselves and said, "Why are we taking this seriously at all???" Interesting, I've only seen the first season and didn't think it took itself seriously at all!
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Dec 11, 2019 21:10
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BioEnchanted posted:Here is an example of how seriously late-game Legends takes itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35jMtdrYCSw Neal McDonough is so good in that and I love the music they chose for him coming back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCwvCaEcIzs
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Dec 11, 2019 21:24
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Escobarbarian posted:That Grodd Obama thing sounds dreadful It's maybe five minutes of an episode and an excuse for a character to use a catchphrase from The Flash TV show.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:49
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My favorite part about the George C. Scott Scrooge is when he's sitting there yelling "shut it off -- SHUT IT OFF!"
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Is that before or after he yells about the big board?
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