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Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?
Man this was speedlines the episode.

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
It's weird how lovingly the character flashback stuff gets rendered but some of the big page action spreads honestly look kinda like poo poo

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Suneater is cool and Mirio is a good friend.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
As a manga reader, this entire arc was really confusing in print. At the time, we were talking about how it'd probably be much clearer in the anime, and it didn't disappoint.

What I'm saying is that I had high expectations for this episode, and it absolutely met them.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I do appreciate that the series keeps on bringing up just how hosed up quirk society can be.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Hunt11 posted:

I do appreciate that the series keeps on bringing up just how hosed up quirk society can be.

There's a reason Stain's message is resonating. Hero culture is toxic, and people on the fringe who feel the brunt of it recognize that.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

PMush Perfect posted:

As a manga reader, this entire arc was really confusing in print. At the time, we were talking about how it'd probably be much clearer in the anime, and it didn't disappoint.

What I'm saying is that I had high expectations for this episode, and it absolutely met them.
Well, except for that one part where the animators actually misread the manga and made it look like Eraserhead casually broke eating guy's neck instead of knocking him out.

Not Keyser Soze
Mar 7, 2007

Endless Celestial Sex
That was an episode that could have been an email.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

what episode couldn't

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Hero: Rock Lock
Quirk: Breaking Newton’s First Law

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

The_Doctor posted:

Hero: Rock Lock
Quirk: Breaking Newton’s First Law
Hero: Rock Lock
Quirk: Sensible criticism of genre conventions.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
This episode confused me as to how Eraserhead's quirk works. I thought he had to be looking at them for it to work and stopped working the second he looked away or blinked but Larceny still couldn't use his quirk even after Eraserhead left the room.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Starsnostars posted:

This episode confused me as to how Eraserhead's quirk works. I thought he had to be looking at them for it to work and stopped working the second he looked away or blinked but Larceny still couldn't use his quirk even after Eraserhead left the room.

That was because what he was trying to steal was too big I believe.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Starsnostars posted:

This episode confused me as to how Eraserhead's quirk works. I thought he had to be looking at them for it to work and stopped working the second he looked away or blinked but Larceny still couldn't use his quirk even after Eraserhead left the room.

Yeah that was weird, I distinctly remember it stops working after he blinks or loses line of sight.

Also Suneater is so cool :swoon:

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

There was sn explicit mention from Eraserhead of "I used my quirk on them, l bind them before the effect wears off." Hence the confusion. It could be a deliberate misdirection on Eraserhead's part, but it doesn't seem to be portrayed that way.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
Man these episodes always feel so short. Preview makes the next one look the same way. Maybe I should just wait til the season is over.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Fabricated posted:

It's weird how lovingly the character flashback stuff gets rendered but some of the big page action spreads honestly look kinda like poo poo

It's a lot easier to animate a mostly static slice-of-life flashback than a big action scene where everything's moving all the time.

Nephthys
Mar 27, 2010

I like that even with being a super shy guy, Suneater gets pretty hosed up in this fight and doesn't even care. His quirk really is kind of OP and you can see why he's in the Big Three.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Nephthys posted:

I like that even with being a super shy guy, Suneater gets pretty hosed up in this fight and doesn't even care. His quirk really is kind of OP and you can see why he's in the Big Three.

His quirk is powerful, but it's not like it's just naturally powerful. We saw him in middle school struggling to grow a single normal-sized bean sprout from his hand. To go from there, to strong enough to get into UA, to where his power is now must have taken some pretty serious training. He's clearly put a lot of work into it.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I’m still waiting for Chekhov’s Swordfish to come into play.

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


Pakled posted:

His quirk is powerful, but it's not like it's just naturally powerful. We saw him in middle school struggling to grow a single normal-sized bean sprout from his hand. To go from there, to strong enough to get into UA, to where his power is now must have taken some pretty serious training. He's clearly put a lot of work into it.

Yeah if he's able to make all those giant tentacles from a little takoyaki he must have done some serious training. I like how super powers are just a part of people's bodies in this show, and the world makes a little more sense when not everyone's quirk is worth putting that much effort into.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Dracula Factory posted:

Yeah if he's able to make all those giant tentacles from a little takoyaki he must have done some serious training. I like how super powers are just a part of people's bodies in this show, and the world makes a little more sense when not everyone's quirk is worth putting that much effort into.
They also make a point, though, that some quirks that start lovely as hell can become incredible when properly trained. Mirio's started as basically a joke power, but by his senior year, he's refined it so well that 1-A calls it OP. It makes an interesting point about how some people start with clear and obvious advantages, but this isn't a typical anime situation where no matter how much you train, you're never going to keep up with the Special Ones.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Eraser's quirk wears off after he blinks not line of sight.

Nephthys
Mar 27, 2010

Pakled posted:

His quirk is powerful, but it's not like it's just naturally powerful. We saw him in middle school struggling to grow a single normal-sized bean sprout from his hand. To go from there, to strong enough to get into UA, to where his power is now must have taken some pretty serious training. He's clearly put a lot of work into it.

Oh I didn't mean it in a bad way. Mirio is also OP and similarly its because his quirk becomes nigh unbeatable once fully mastered. I just meant that you can see why this guy is in the top 3 of all UA students.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
Now I'm imagining staring contests as part of his quirk training. Also I bet his costume comes well stocked with eye drops

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL

PMush Perfect posted:

They also make a point, though, that some quirks that start lovely as hell can become incredible when properly trained. Mirio's started as basically a joke power, but by his senior year, he's refined it so well that 1-A calls it OP. It makes an interesting point about how some people start with clear and obvious advantages, but this isn't a typical anime situation where no matter how much you train, you're never going to keep up with the Special Ones.

Broadly true, but with two exceptions: All For One and All Might.

TheBystander
Apr 28, 2011

Dr Subterfuge posted:

Broadly true, but with two exceptions: All For One and All Might.

This had me realize something about All For One: he can take any quirk he wants, but won't necessarily be any good at using it. Do you think if he took Suneater's power, he'd be able to manifest anything better than a sprout? If he took Mirio's, would he get stuck in walls? Not to mention All For One didn't seem like someone who would want to get naked just to use a quirk.

This makes me think that for all his power, All For One is lazy. He has tens, perhaps hundreds of quirks: would he want to deal with ones that require practice to master, or ones with strange flaws or requirements? Easier to just find and stock up on the ones that are obviously and immediately powerful, which is why when he had his big fight last season, he most stuck to the fundamentals: strength increasing, air blasts, etc. Nothing weird, wacky or unexpected, because it'd be too much of a hassle.

On the other hand, from what we've seen with Deku, the power of One for All is overwhelming, but requires considerable, constant training to use. If Deku slacks off in his exercise, his new quirk could tear him apart. It's an interesting difference that might help explain how All For One lost in the first place: he just doesn't have the drive of a bearer of One for All.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Remember when All For One hosed up Best Jeanist? He said he wasn't going to take his quirk specifically because it was one that required a ton of work and practice to make useful.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Ugh. Volunteering for a 6er for that.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Dec 9, 2019

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012


This is the anime thread.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Your avatar is fitting, because it's time to take a shot!

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Rhonne posted:

This is the anime thread.
I'm continuing a time-honored tradition of loving up the thread. I think I need to unsub from the threads so I have to look at the titles.

PMush Perfect posted:

Your avatar is fitting, because it's time to take a shot!
Time to pay the blind posting tax!

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

TheBystander posted:

This had me realize something about All For One: he can take any quirk he wants, but won't necessarily be any good at using it. Do you think if he took Suneater's power, he'd be able to manifest anything better than a sprout? If he took Mirio's, would he get stuck in walls? Not to mention All For One didn't seem like someone who would want to get naked just to use a quirk.

This makes me think that for all his power, All For One is lazy. He has tens, perhaps hundreds of quirks: would he want to deal with ones that require practice to master, or ones with strange flaws or requirements? Easier to just find and stock up on the ones that are obviously and immediately powerful, which is why when he had his big fight last season, he most stuck to the fundamentals: strength increasing, air blasts, etc. Nothing weird, wacky or unexpected, because it'd be too much of a hassle.

On the other hand, from what we've seen with Deku, the power of One for All is overwhelming, but requires considerable, constant training to use. If Deku slacks off in his exercise, his new quirk could tear him apart. It's an interesting difference that might help explain how All For One lost in the first place: he just doesn't have the drive of a bearer of One for All.

well, presumably if he finds a cool enough quirk he might keep it around. afterall, what we saw wasn't his only bag of tricks: it was a specific configuration of abilities. pretty sure either him or all might said that his fighting style was completely different form when they fought before? dude is definitely mostly interested in powers that don't take years of work but i dunno if i'd really call him lazy. he's just optimizing his power stealing: why have one very good quirk that takes forever to make useful, when you could have 50 pretty good quirks that require 0 effort? he's probably spending however much time he has not running a criminal underground on learning how best to combine quirks effectively

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Also worth remembering that we've only seen All For One in extremely poor health post-All Might Administered Skull Crusher. Reasonable enough to assume he might have been more adventurous and experimental with his stolen quirks back when his body wasn't threatening to quit on him.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

He's also been alive for hundreds of years, the guy probably got bored and experimented with some weird quirks every now and then.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Yeah what we saw was specifically him trying to out punch All Might bc he loves to be poetic like that.

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!
What I've always been curious about is the nature of his own ability to steal a quirk. Is it something he can do only if a condition is met, like direct touch? Is it instant? He seems to assess Jeanist as if it were an option, but we're also never shown him taking Ragdoll's quirk, only the result.

Stealing a useful quirk also leaves the original holder pretty vulnerable so if it's something he can do proactively then he probably won a lot of fights that way which would uniquely not work on One For All.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

I got the impression that it's a pretty involved procedure, not something he can use off-handedly as a combat move. Seems like he would have probably stolen Endeavor's at least when he showed up to assist All Might if it were that simple.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Even with the accidental Todoroki Zuko thing I am definitely now imagining Quirk Stealing as the energy bending fight between Aang and Ozai that ends with Ozai’s bending removed.

The whole standing still battle of pure spiritual will with energy shifting between user and target

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Shere posted:

What I've always been curious about is the nature of his own ability to steal a quirk. Is it something he can do only if a condition is met, like direct touch? Is it instant? He seems to assess Jeanist as if it were an option, but we're also never shown him taking Ragdoll's quirk, only the result.

Stealing a useful quirk also leaves the original holder pretty vulnerable so if it's something he can do proactively then he probably won a lot of fights that way which would uniquely not work on One For All.
I assume both stealing and giving take some non-trivial amount of time, or else he could do stuff like drop some body mutating quirks into people to gently caress them up and then take them back. Leaving aside any "multiple quirks may rip you apart or something," getting Hagakure's, Ojiro's, and Froppy's quirks dropped on you would probably gently caress up your combat effectiveness a smidge.

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