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aniviron posted:MWO did have highly effective ECM for a while, but everyone hated it and it got nerfed to its present state. At one point it would cloak not only friendlies from radar in a 180m radius, but enemies too- so you could get close and pick someone off without their teammates being able to look at the radar and realizing that they had allies in peril or flankers. All I have seen from players is that if there are vision or stealth mechanics, everyone hates it unless everyone gets it. It is a shame since I love running ECM and stealth armor but I never feel really effective.
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aniviron posted:It does have BAP, and it's completely worthless for anything but an LRM boat, and even then it just helps speed lock-on times, really. Lot of wasted potential. I decided to look BAP up on sarna.net and yeah, there's so much more PGI could have done with it. quote:The Beagle Active Probe (BAP) is a suite of enhancement technology that, when attached to general electronic sensors, enables the equipped unit to detect and classify other battlefield units whether they are camouflaged or even shut down, with the exception of conventional infantry.
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I've been loving around with stealth after they made it so that it's just a heat accumulation instead of turning off your dissipation. It's really weird and not really too functional outside of niche builds that meet two requirements: 1) Their weapons have to use a minimal amount of slots 2) You need to have a large engine to fit heat sinks to make it work The surprise that I was really satisfied with was the tempest, the archer hero, because you can slap 6 mpl and run at people in stealth. Funniest thing about it is that the majority of players will stop targeting your CT or even try to aim for specific parts on you, and will just splash damage around like crazy. The good players will just murder your dumb rear end like normal, but the lack of a dorito over your head or sensor information just makes people forget how to play the game. I tried running 2 SRM4s with the 6mpls, but it ran too hot, so dropping the SRMs and ammo allowed me to add more sinks and upgrade the engine up another category for another internal heat sink. BAP does let you target shut down targets though. Commoners fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Ambaire posted:I decided to look BAP up on sarna.net and yeah, there's so much more PGI could have done with it. BAP actually does let you target shut down mechs and cut through ECM in MWO though, so it's actually pretty good for LRM, ATM, and Streak builds. I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually make the lock on times faster though, it simply lets you lock on to mechs that you'd otherwise not be able to lock on at all, and pull up their targeting information faster.
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I ran a stealth cicada for a bit. It's super fun if you manage to pick a camo scheme that matches the map. poke assaults in the back with AC5 shells until they either turn around, or die.
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FebrezeNinja posted:1) Shields yourself and close allies from being targetable until any enemy is within some mid-range distance. aniviron posted:And all in a 90m radius instead of 180. And mechs that have ECM tend to have dramatically worse stats than their non-ECM counterparts. Aside from the distortion effects and the range (I think it was 180), that sounds like its state the last time I played the game. Preventing targeting at range for yourself and nearby allies is still exceptionally strong.
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Mechwarrior 5 launch trailer. It's okay I guess, pretty but no real substance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDtVSX3I-Y4 Are we just going to keep using this thread for MW5 poo poo or is anyone planning to make a new thread?
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aniviron posted:Mechwarrior 5 launch trailer. It's okay I guess, pretty but no real substance: Probably a good idea
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Requesting an add to the unit, ->Rayisken<- Mostly addicted to my HBR prime, I am trying to branch out into other mechs/builds and none have quite caught my eye yet. I 've been dabbling with a hunchback ppc build and a laser K9 and liking them but I feel I need to practice with them a whole lot more.
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ECM capable omnimechs werent as affected by PGI ecm balancing of course. Just slap that arm or whatever on.
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Sixfools posted:Requesting an add to the unit, ->Rayisken<- I love PPC builds but to really make them work on a medium mech you need jump jets and to get slightly lucky and have a match where the two teams don't instantly mash into each other and get into a huge brawl. When you have a match where the teams are slow to commit to a big fight is when PPCs really shine, since their DPS sucks but they heavily reward good aim and hit and run attacks. For the K-9 I don't know what lasers you're running on it, but 5 medium pulse lasers are my personal favorite and probably the most common build. It's short ranged, but the DPS is good, and you can be really annoying by sticking near your main force and shooting people who probably have bigger problems than you.
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Between the heat revamp and the addition of several knife-fight maps to the pool PPCs, and sniping platforms more generally, are in a pretty bad place. Matches are too short and too close for them to really shine. The 5 mpl K-9 is real good, doh.
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Trying to join the discord, but getting an invite invalid error? Anyway I just picked this up yesterday, got the Hellbringer up and rolling and thinking about the Victor for my second mech. DrBonertron in game
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Frocious posted:Trying to join the discord, but getting an invite invalid error? https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/1203402488000348160?s=19
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Gonna have to try the 5mpl, I've been using 2x Light 1x Med. And yeah that is what my experience has been with the PPCs so far. Always be flanking and hit and running, using your mobility to your advantage for repositionings.
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Frocious posted:Trying to join the discord, but getting an invite invalid error? Here's an extra link just in case. They're set to never expire, etc but sometimes things get weird https://discord.gg/fjvnrJ7 I'm in the process of replacing the bot that grants roles (because every time I pick one it goes offline forever like two weeks later lol) but you can always PM me or @me and I'll get you situated.
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Beet Wagon posted:Here's an extra link just in case. They're set to never expire, etc but sometimes things get weird Well that one made it a bit further but yeah Discord seems a bit fucky. Just bought my Victor and realized the 7.5m C-Bills is only about half of the total cost to get it up and running  ((
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Did I not just post that Discord is broken right now because of Google GCP?
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You did, and he tried something else. No need to get all pissy big fella
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Frocious posted:You did, and he tried something else. No need to get all pissy big fella Well, Discord is back up.
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Also ignore all that poo poo I said about the role selection thing not working. I got off my dumb, fat, idiot, lazy, stupid rear end and fixed it. Agree to the rules, play robots with goons. It was all so obvious!
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Does anyone know how coop will work in MW5? Like is it only the host that will gain something and the 3 other just join to help or is it more of a coop campaign?
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TjyvTompa posted:Does anyone know how coop will work in MW5? Like is it only the host that will gain something and the 3 other just join to help or is it more of a coop campaign? afaik: only the host benefits, no progression for the others. The other players just take the place of AI lancemates.
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Ferrovanadium posted:afaik: only the host benefits, no progression for the others. The other players just take the place of AI lancemates. Boooooooring. At least give me some cash for my troubles, now there is no incentive to play with your friends. What would have been nice is if you could join other games using your singleplayer profile to at least get some mercenary pay.
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yeah the system could even work like a bounty board where the host posts sign-up cash bonus upfront and if nobody connects you play solo and a voice says "look on the bright side kid..."
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So this got released, Russ threatened lawyers and it got re-uploaded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6zbPDgNxkY
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ZombyDog posted:So this got released, Russ threatened lawyers and it got re-uploaded. Sad to see that is indeed the final HUD.. 
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Bang3r posted:Sad to see that is indeed the final HUD..  .
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Yeah, treating the mechs like machinima characters is so goofy and dumb. Also thought it was pretty funny for what was supposed to be some rad last-stand shootout ended up just looking hilarious with the king crab just waddling around menacingly and stepping on metal baby after it got dunked on with an ac10. Battletech did it well with the Mastiff getting torn apart in a hail of ppc, missile, and ballistic fire while vastly outtonned by the enemy. This just looked like they filmed a bunch of people who had never played mechwarrior in their lives trying to figure out the controls and they weren't told they were being filmed.
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ZombyDog posted:So this got released, Russ threatened lawyers and it got re-uploaded. What is the context of this video? For those of us who have been living under rocks.
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Dude accidentally ignored his NDA and released a youtube video of him playing the first part of the MW5 campaign. You can watch it as a live play preview before it's released in three hours I guess.
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ZombyDog posted:So this got released, Russ threatened lawyers and it got re-uploaded. Holy poo poo that looks bad. Top to bottom garbage.
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The game is out, check mw5mercs.com for the pre-order key.
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TjyvTompa posted:The game is out, check mw5mercs.com for the pre-order key. Did any reviews go up yet Edit: 76 on metacritic lol
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ACG has a Youtube review up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CuGDHvc0NM Might need some fixing up but it doesn't seem to be outright bad.
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I really like the NPCs that are so static that they face away from you when they talk to you. Also loving the world outside the mech where you have nothing to interact with. It looks like a game made in 2002
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ZombyDog posted:So this got released, Russ threatened lawyers and it got re-uploaded. Looks like it got a copyright claim but fortunately I downloaded it before it became unavailable. Decided to watch it now and this loading screen tip is  Why the gently caress is that a mechanic? Even without weapons, they could still block your shots and/or destroy stuff by colliding/jumpjetting... starting in a ready room instead of the mech - weird no Betty doing the mech startup sequence? definitely not going for the nostalgia at all LRMs doing the shotgun spread 'homing' is still really weird Assuming that video is true to the actual gameplay, definitely won't be buying it. shame, was hoping for a decent MW4Mercs sequel.
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