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50 minutes of a completely unearned romance that doesn't land whatsoever. I'd say this was the worst episode of the show but it's been an absolute mess from the start. Every review praises the show by spending 5% of the article talking about what happened on screen and 95% to all of the easter eggs and references and Peteypedia poo poo. They're so wrapped up in mystery box poo poo that they forgot to tell a coherent story.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:34
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Angela has to know that Jon was going to get blasted no matter what otherwise why would you not yell "GET AWAY FROM THE loving CANNON"
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Dec 9, 2019 06:35
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i am the bird posted:50 minutes of a completely unearned romance that doesn't land whatsoever. I'd say this was the worst episode of the show but it's been an absolute mess from the start. Every review praises the show by spending 5% of the article talking about what happened on screen and 95% to all of the easter eggs and references and Peteypedia poo poo. They're so wrapped up in mystery box poo poo that they forgot to tell a coherent story. Bruh. The romance is every bit as earned as what Sally and Doc have in the original series. No, it's not Sally and Dan, but it never sets out to be. The story is plenty coherent, as evidenced by the shitload of people who tune in and enjoy it without any comic background (I'll admit I was flabbergasted by how many of my friends were into it, despite my being sure you needed the comic background to dig half of it.) But, sure, absolute mess. Do tell.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:38
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i am the bird posted:50 minutes of a completely unearned romance that doesn't land whatsoever. I'd say this was the worst episode of the show but it's been an absolute mess from the start. Every review praises the show by spending 5% of the article talking about what happened on screen and 95% to all of the easter eggs and references and Peteypedia poo poo. They're so wrapped up in mystery box poo poo that they forgot to tell a coherent story. I know when to ignore a post when it includes the words “mystery box.”
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Dec 9, 2019 06:38
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i am the bird posted:50 minutes of a completely unearned romance that doesn't land whatsoever. I'd say this was the worst episode of the show but it's been an absolute mess from the start. Every review praises the show by spending 5% of the article talking about what happened on screen and 95% to all of the easter eggs and references and Peteypedia poo poo. They're so wrapped up in mystery box poo poo that they forgot to tell a coherent story. Took the words right out of my mouth
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Dec 9, 2019 06:39
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I loved it. FIGHT ME!
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Dec 9, 2019 06:40
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Episode stunkbeanieson posted:Dong of the year 2019 We saw his origin, pete was unprepared and sex with laurie was horrible. From that day forward he swore he'd never be without lube
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Dec 9, 2019 06:43
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Why is everyone talking about the horseshoe now? Is there a post credits scene? ...have there been post credits scenes I’ve been missing?
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Dec 9, 2019 06:44
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Aphrodite posted:Why is everyone talking about the horseshoe now? Is there a post credits scene? Only for this episode.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:46
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Idk what other people were watching but this story felt pretty coherent to me. I also enjoyed this episode a lot.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:47
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Soooo... possible finale is Angela becomes the new Dr Manhattan, right?
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Dec 9, 2019 06:47
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Based on Doc’s command to “watch the eggs”, I went back and rewatched the scenes between Angela and Will in Episode 2, and it definitely plays at a whole nother level when they discuss whether Dr. Manhattan could be a black man, or more specifically, Will. Him eating the pot of hard-boiled eggs certainly suggests he will have some sort of powers-based reveal in the finale. Who are Veidt’s 8 million children? Has he been seeding Dr. Manhattan powers throughout the general populace, where, since they don’t know they have them, they can’t use them, until he comes back in the finale and activates them all to some end? All the beneficiaries of the Victims of Racial Violence Act, perhaps?
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Dec 9, 2019 06:47
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Putting a raw egg in manhattans beer was a real dick move
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Dec 9, 2019 06:48
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Klungar posted:Based on Doc’s command to “watch the eggs”, I went back and rewatched the scenes between Angela and Will in Episode 2, and it definitely plays at a whole nother level when they discuss whether Dr. Manhattan could be a black man, or more specifically, Will. Him eating the pot of hard-boiled eggs certainly suggests he will have some sort of powers-based reveal in the finale. He said eight billion, I think. As in, everyone on earth is waiting for him because he is that awesome.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:50
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Memnaelar posted:Bruh. An affectless god who can no longer relate to humans tells a woman that they are in love and she agrees to this even though she knows he brutally slaughtered millions of Vietnamese people and, in her eyes, caused the murder of her parents because hey, he admitted it was an oopsie. Okay.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:51
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:This is the transition from the 2nd generation of superheroes to the 3rd. Damon will stick to his story that the season was a self-contained miniseries where this new-yet-familiar status quo was intended to be the series' definitive ending, and it would work that way. But HBO needs a hit, and I think they'll be able to convince him that on TV nothing ever ends (at least for a while).
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Dec 9, 2019 06:51
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i am the bird posted:An affectless god who can no longer relate to humans Might want to read how Watchmen ends again.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:55
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Caros posted:He said eight billion, I think. As in, everyone on earth is waiting for him because he is that awesome. I heard million - and my initial thought was everyone so it threw me. Maybe I misheard. At the risk of outing myself as a dummy, I thought it was as good as every other episode so far. I guess it doesn't bother me if something is done in the obvious way (i.e. the Dr Manhattan episode being told exactly like Dr Manhattans story in the comic). But this series still hinges on its final episode. If Veidt/The Kavalry/Trieu doesn't payoff then its going to be disappointing. At least Lost had great character episodes aside from the overarching nonsense.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:55
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I really loved the episode as a piece of the narrative they’ve created, I just have a bit of a hard time totally squaring it with the comics. I’m not convinced they did the necessary legwork of showing how Manhattan got from where he was at the end of the comics to meeting Angela in the bar. It does feel kinda like they’re just telling the story they want to tell, which is faithful to but not entirely beholden to the comics. Which is probably the right approach. It just feels a bit off, which is natural since it’s a completely different creative voice from Alan Moore.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:57
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Caros posted:He said eight billion, I think. As in, everyone on earth is waiting for him because he is that awesome. I just rewatched in case I misheard, but both he and the captions say Million. Billion would mean the answer you gave, obviously, but Million is something else.
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Dec 9, 2019 06:58
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Putting a raw egg in manhattans beer was a real dick move Dr. M. DGAF
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Dec 9, 2019 07:02
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i am the bird posted:An affectless god who can no longer relate to humans tells a woman that they are in love and she agrees to this even though she knows he brutally slaughtered millions of Vietnamese people and, in her eyes, caused the murder of her parents because hey, he admitted it was an oopsie. Actually it was better than ok, it was really good!
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Dec 9, 2019 07:06
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Despera posted:43 Minute exposition dump comon lol yea, rip this show. idk introducing dr. manhattan proper on the second to last episode and then dump all that is pretty uh... awkward and I don't really care about their relationship (I did enjoy Angela dropping MF-bombs for everyone reaction lol) I give this episode an A+, for Asses
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Dec 9, 2019 07:07
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i am the bird posted:50 minutes of a completely unearned romance that doesn't land whatsoever. I'd say this was the worst episode of the show but it's been an absolute mess from the start. Every review praises the show by spending 5% of the article talking about what happened on screen and 95% to all of the easter eggs and references and Peteypedia poo poo. They're so wrapped up in mystery box poo poo that they forgot to tell a coherent story. i mean maybe you're reading shittier reviews than i am but i read three different critics who posted right after the episode finished airing, and all of them loved it and didn't really get into all the mystery box poo poo. The Vox review panel does a good job of talking about the content of the episode and one of them is someone who never read the original GN and doesn't give a poo poo about that stuff, and the AV Club reviewer is specifically talking about the show from her perspective as a black woman. Maybe go to better websites?
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Dec 9, 2019 07:20
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I am so glad that despite weeks of whining and diaper-filling by Taintrunner I was not spoiled on the events of this episode just because an obscure exclusive video for an industry event had spoilers in it six months ago.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:22
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Episode was "OK" which is a tragedy for the climax of what was looking to be one of the best series of the decade Lotta lost momentum Unless the finale totally drops the ball, the series will at least coast into a B-Tier legacy
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Dec 9, 2019 07:24
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Skitz posted:I'm just waiting for the horseshoe to come into play. That's gonna be the biggest moment in the Veidt arc. I told you motherfuckers. Ubiquitous_ posted:Soooo... possible finale is Angela becomes the new Dr Manhattan, right? No, Topher. Also, I was really hoping for LG to show up in that last scene in his stolen 7K mask. Skitz fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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Dec 9, 2019 07:28
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Klungar posted:I just rewatched in case I misheard, but both he and the captions say Million. Billion would mean the answer you gave, obviously, but Million is something else. Huh. Well now I'm just confused. On a different note, I find myself a bit annoyed that the series has had nearly three full episodes of back to back flashbacks. I get the idea of filling out the setting, but it feels like at least one too many.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:29
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i am the bird posted:An affectless god who can no longer relate to humans tells a woman that they are in love and she agrees to this even though she knows he brutally slaughtered millions of Vietnamese people and, in her eyes, caused the murder of her parents because hey, he admitted it was an oopsie. That's exactly why he loves her, out of any other human on the planet. He did all of that, and she's still willing to die for him. Isn't that crazy?
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Dec 9, 2019 07:32
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"So that's why you came, want me to cover myself in lube again?" "No. Angela does."
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The Watchmen movie did the effect for Doctor Manhattan by having Billy Crudup perform in person covered in blue lights so when they used CGI to replace him with a bald muscular blue man the blue glow radiating from him and reflecting off of the environment and other actors would be a 100% practical effect and they would still be able to use motion capture to have his actual performance on screen. I feel like they could have done the same thing only superimposing the actor over footage instead of using a CGI double and been a million times better than just having Cal Abar doing his best Tobias Funke impression and calling it a day, especially considering every frame of Looking Glass' mask is a special effect.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:39
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Episode was not good and I was totally on board with this show until this last episode; which is a shame considering how strong the first episodes were. I don't think I've rolled my eyes and sighed so much at a show since Sons of Anarchy. They're not sticking the landing.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:45
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Episode was the same quality as the rest of the series, for better or worse, and does no disservice to the comic or the lovely movie. These complainers are tripping rear end.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:46
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Well, except for the guitar riffs when doc is clumsily stopping bullets, that was dumb. The music was pretty meh for this ep overall.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:49
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Cal's blue glow was a bit cheap looking at times, but I loved the episode otherwise. I guess some people think the romance didn't land or something but Angela said it herself, this is some Zeus type poo poo and man does it feel like a proper modern version of Watchmen. Can't wait to see how the season ends.
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Dec 9, 2019 07:49
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that ruled. if I knew sister night was gonna smoke a dozen plus some neo-nazis I'd fall so loving hard. he creates her, she destroys him. beautiful.
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Dec 9, 2019 08:04
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So maybe I am off my rocker... But maybe this whole series is Laurie’s joke from episode 3. All three hero’s are in their own hell. Owl guy in jail, Veidt on Europa, and Jon is always there. The bricklayer from the first part of the joke is Veidt, and his daughter is lady trieu. He built his elaborate bbq aka squid monster but forgot something. So lady T is building the clock to make up for it. I haven’t figured out who god is yet so I don’t know who’s brain is coming out their nose as the punch line. They have one episode left so I am guessing that’s where we get that answer. Enjoyed the episode. Like all the other characters viewpoint episodes it felt like we where in their head. It’s just that Jon sees things all at once and as immutable. So because he loves Angela in that moment he has always loved Angela. That was the crux of it and if you didn’t buy that then the rest wouldn’t have worked you. Her reaction in the pool scene felt like a reshoot though.
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Dec 9, 2019 08:05
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AccountSupervisor posted:I kind of love the notion that Manhattans "paradise" is actually a twisted hell and play on "And God snaps his finger, and the hero goes to hell". Oh God drat it, this immediately made me smack my forehead and realize how the finale is going to go. (Do we spoiler tag speculation? Even informed speculation?) Senator guy is the blue man analogue, Doc is gonna snap his fingers and send him to hell, the “brick” is gonna be something a female character set up far in advance that brings everything tumbling down. My money’s actually on Angela’s adopted daughter.
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Dec 9, 2019 08:08
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the virgin doc "accepts his fate" manhattan vs the chad adrian "i'll dig myself out of hell with a loving horseshoe" veidt
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Episode was good and I enjoyed watching (especially the creation on europa and their first meeting in the bar) but it had some issues. Didn't reach the same heights as earlier episodes (LG and HJ episodes I think are the clear highlights). I'll be a bit disappointed if there is no more expansion on the timeline of Dr. Manhattan being on Europa for 30 years and all of a sudden just going "ok I have to warp to a bar in vietnam now to meet my new lover" - he fell for Laurie because he met her - not because he knew the relationship would happen and therefore knew he had to go meet her. Likewise the information transfer paradox between Angela and Will is much less satisfying to me than something more along the lines of Manhattan knowing about Angela through Will or him meeting her in some other situation. Manhttan just taking a sudden trip purely for the purpose of meeting her seems completely out of character. I feel like Manhattan has been retconned into a prime mover/time traveller instead of a dude stuck on rails, knowing he's stuck on rails but powerless to stop. Also the "oh i could give someone my powers through food" was just a really bad line, especially at this point in the season where we know by now that if a someone says something weird like that, it is definitely true/will happen. I've been a fanatic of the show til now, this episode was a bit of a stumble and it feels like there is still a lot to do in the finale and I fear it will feel rushed compared to the steady unveiling of the rest of the show. I think the only way to have a truly satisfying finish is another character-centric episode that nonetheless ties everything and everyone together and the only character that could work is Trieu. I'm hoping for her story next and last. Chadzok fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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