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justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo


I like how 'brass neck' has popped up multiple times since that QT debate all those days ago, I haven't heard it much for a while. I wish 'show my arse' had been used instead.

quote:

A militia you say?

How far can we discuss non-voting action as I'm imagining we might need to find out by the end of the week.

lol jk we're going to win the election. ;)

I know there's a few people feeling a bit sad or anxious - also worth remembering it's Christmas, it's winter, if you've been knocking on doors or just commuting into hell you'll be getting sick. The election is just one bauble amongst a whole range of reasons to feel lovely this time of year. Go for a walk, play a game, eat something nice, do something for yourself, you deserve it.

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NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




justcola posted:

I like how 'brass neck' has popped up multiple times since that QT debate all those days ago, I haven't heard it much for a while. I wish 'show my arse' had been used instead.


How far can we discuss non-voting action as I'm imagining we might need to find out by the end of the week.

lol jk we're going to win the election. ;)

I know there's a few people feeling a bit sad or anxious - also worth remembering it's Christmas, it's winter, if you've been knocking on doors or just commuting into hell you'll be getting sick. The election is just one bauble amongst a whole range of reasons to feel lovely this time of year. Go for a walk, play a game, eat something nice, do something for yourself, you deserve it.

I've a line item on my todo list to set up a forum and mattermost server that can act as backup/replacement to here/Discord for reasons

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Tesseraction posted:

She's based in Europe and thus can report facts without the usual oval office brigade tapping her on the shoulder.

I'll put Katya Adler on my list along with Gary O'Donoghue, Jenny Hill and Tim Vickery. The BBC's foreign correspondents, they are what they are.

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



One of my coworkers: "They're both the same. I'm going to vote for anyone but them. BNP, KKK, it doesn't matter as long as it's not those two"

:gonk:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

mfcrocker posted:

It's worth knowing your strategy if things go badly on Thursday - for me, I'll just be going on a solid break from politics for a month or two and maybe a social media break too

Heck, might do that even if we win

Regardless of the result, I'm planning to take the whole weekend off the internet completely starting from knowing the result on Friday morning round to Monday afternoon.
My main phone is not smart and only does texts and voice so that's not a temptation.
I'm holding the official phone for Wed & Thur for directing lift requests to the appropriate branch so that could be a pain depending on the weather as I have to find out where the polling station is (85 in our constituency and lots of them are 'village hall' so I have to probe the request as to which precise village hall they mean) and direct to the appropriate branch lift giver. (5 branches).

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Tell you something true friends, it's no fun that election week has neatly lined up with my 'black despair PMS' week. Fun for all the loving family. If the Tories get in I'm going to kick a bin over is what.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

submitted a complaint to the BBC


quote:

Laura Kuenssberg has posted a tweet in her capacity as the BBC's political editor which draws a false equivalence between Boris Johnson lying about the contents of his Brexit deal during an election campaign and Jeremy Corbyn lying about watching the Queen's Speech on Christmas day.

"Brass neck's been one of central features of this campaign - Johnson on checks (remember he DID admit back in Oct there'd be extra checks under Brexit deal however much he obfuscates over it now - define check, and define customs declaration), or Corbyn on watching the Queen"

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1203940035210428417

Aside from downplaying the Prime Minister's repeated falsehoods, which contradict both his and his government's previous statements on the matter, as merely "obfuscation" rather than "lying", there is no reasonable comparison to be made between the Prime Minister deliberately and repeatedly misrepresenting the likely ramifications of his core policy position during a general election and the Leader of the Opposition claiming to watch something on Christmas Day that he may or may not actually watch.

It is dangerously ill-judged and incompetent, at best, for a senior member of the BBC's news team to equivocate between these two issues in a public forum during a general election campaign. At worst it is indicative of a bias, unconscious or otherwise, against the Leader of the Opposition.


I know it won't do anything but goddamn this poo poo is infuriating and at least some poor drone might have to momentarily look at it before sending me a "thanks but no thanks for your complaint" template email

Chuff McNothing
Sep 9, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

One of my coworkers: "They're both the same. I'm going to vote for anyone but them. BNP, KKK, it doesn't matter as long as it's not those two"

:gonk:

offer to drive them to the polls.

lock them in the car.

feed the exhaust in through the window

Progject
Apr 23, 2006

This thread is one serious rollercoaster. I'm getting hope, then it's dashed, then it's back.

One thing that's hard to predict - how strong is the "shy Tory" factor? What do we reckon? Those that will just vote Tory in droves but won't ever say. Will they defeat us?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Progject posted:

This thread is one serious rollercoaster. I'm getting hope, then it's dashed, then it's back.

One thing that's hard to predict - how strong is the "shy Tory" factor? What do we reckon? Those that will just vote Tory in droves but won't ever say. Will they defeat us?

I think the Shy Tory factor has kinda been demolished by the split between Brexit-Tory and "maybe those Lib Dems aren't so bad"

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009

Progject posted:

This thread is one serious rollercoaster. I'm getting hope, then it's dashed, then it's back.

One thing that's hard to predict - how strong is the "shy Tory" factor? What do we reckon? Those that will just vote Tory in droves but won't ever say. Will they defeat us?

There's such a thing as a Shy Tory but I think it's less than what it used to be.

I think Shy Labour is becoming a thing tbh, just based on personal experiences.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Archaeology Hat posted:

There's such a thing as a Shy Tory but I think it's less than what it used to be.

I think Shy Labour is becoming a thing tbh, just based on personal experiences.

I was wondering this myself. Shy Tories used to be because they would (rightfully) be accused of being a racist piece of poo poo who stomps on babies.

Now people might bite back on saying Labour because they don't want to put up with "how can you defend anti-Semitism???????"

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

The polls are 100% correct with infallible methodology , until 11 pm the day of the election when we find out they were wrong

But don’t worry, by the next election everything will be tweaked and they’ll be back to 100%!

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Photoshop friends, please swap Boris' face with the fish's.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I think I told this story in the thread but an example of "shy Labourism" happened the other day when I was in the pub after work. I was there with three colleagues and one of them (Voted CUKTIG in the Euros, wavering Lib Dem at the moment but starting to warm on Corbyn) was talking about a documentary he saw about the Korean War, and we were chatting about this and a drunk punter kept stumbling past keeping a creepily close eye on us as we were talking.

Eventually he starts leaning against the bar at the spot closest to us, ostensibly checking his mobile, but obviously listening to us. After a bit he suddenly steps towards as and shouts CONSERVATIVE OR LABOUR?!

We stop talking, turn to face him in mild shock at this sudden interjection. He repeats himself "Conservative or Labour? Which is it then?"

I tentatively ask "That we think will win o--"

"CONSERVATIVE OR LABOUR?"

"That I hope will win or think will win?"

"Don't be loving clever the question is obvious."

"...I'm voting Labou--"

"gently caress you, go home" then he turns to colleague "Conservative or Labour?"

my colleague isn't dumb, "Conservative"

"yes man, yes" and forces said colleague to shake his hand

then goes around the other two who do the same thing

needless to say, they were not Tory voters, but faced with such a gobshite they were no going to say anything other than Tory

I told the rest of the story but he was basically a dumb motherfucker and obvious EDL type who was voting Johnson because the fascists loving love him

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Braggart posted:

Photoshop friends, please swap Boris' face with the fish's.

Too late!

DiscoWitch
Oct 16, 2009

uwu
Do any ukmt goons own a boat of some description we can all flee knife crime island/party on depending on the result?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
please don't make me read reports of your brexit word porn or vomit or whatever the hell that was

good god y'all

:chast2b:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Braggart posted:

Photoshop friends, please swap Boris' face with the fish's.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

quote:

'Labour or conservatives?'

'What?'

'LABOUR OR CONSERVATIVES????'

'That I want to win or I think will win?'

'DON'T BE FACKIN' CLEVER LABOUR OR CONSERVATIVES??????????'



is just the absolute most perfect description of a fashy, slurring pub weirdo lol

E: is bristol relatively left wing? we got some very sceptical looks loudly talking about labour and Marx and Corbyn in the pub, but maybe I imagined it with not feeling 100% comfortable in the city yet

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Dec 9, 2019

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Tesseraction posted:


Plague Doctor Who, travels through time to infect poor people

And his lovely assistant Bonking Bozza:





My speciality is the 'English disease' :smug:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Braggart posted:

Photoshop friends, please swap Boris' face with the fish's.


Igotadigbick posted:

Do any ukmt goons own a boat of some description
Not falling for that one.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Chuff McNothing posted:

I have my work christmas do on thursday. That'll be a fun one
On Saturday we're seeing a couple my partner knows for dinner. They live in a massive house in Chester and when we went out for drinks just after the 2015 election I ended up screaming in the guy's face, telling him he's obviously a Tory because he doesn't care about people. Bit worried about what I'll end up saying to him if there is a Conservative majority this weekend.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

ThomasPaine posted:

is just the absolute most perfect description of a fashy, slurring pub weirdo lol


the next day my colleague came over laughing and said he'd gotten picked up by his girlfriend about 40 minutes after I left to meet other people at another pub, and they'd driven to the other side of town on the way to a party, and stopped off at the Lidl to grab some drinks and snacks, where he walked in to find that same gobshite harassing the checkout lady with the same discussion

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


TACD posted:

On Saturday we're seeing a couple my partner knows for dinner. They live in a massive house in Chester and when we went out for drinks just after the 2015 election I ended up screaming in the guy's face, telling him he's obviously a Tory because he doesn't care about people. Bit worried about what I'll end up saying to him if there is a Conservative majority this weekend.

Someone told me, pretty forcefully, that you can't cut people out of your life because of politics. But you can, and you should.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

ThomasPaine posted:

is bristol relatively left wing? we got some very sceptical looks loudly talking about labour and Marx and Corbyn in the pub, but maybe I imagined it with not feeling 100% comfortable in the city yet

Depends which bit, I think. Iirc there's a fairly clear east/west=left/right divide, though any current brisgoons feel free to correct me on this, I've not lived there in years.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Sanford posted:

Someone told me, pretty forcefully, that you can't cut people out of your life because of politics. But you can, and you should.

Using the sharpest knife on the table as necessary.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

It's uncanny

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Sanford posted:

Someone told me, pretty forcefully, that you can't cut people out of your life because of politics. But you can, and you should.
Is there any limitation on their view?

Like do I have to keep people in my life who want segregation or to deport me or believe in the bad kind of gay conversion?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Is there any limitation on their view?

Like do I have to keep people in my life who want segregation or to deport me or believe in the bad kind of gay conversion?

I think a lot of people believe politics and the rest of their lives are just separate, and you're the weird one for believing that when they vote for things that will gently caress your life up, that reflects badly on them as a person.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Sanford posted:

Someone told me, pretty forcefully, that you can't cut people out of your life because of politics. But you can, and you should.

Can't remember who it was said it (a goon?), but "a person's politics is how they'd treat you if they didn't know you", which imo makes it one of the best reasons to sever if their politics are poo poo.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

XMNN posted:

I know it won't do anything but goddamn this poo poo is infuriating and at least some poor drone might have to momentarily look at it before sending me a "thanks but no thanks for your complaint" template email

Actually it does (at least a little). My friend works in the BBC and they have had several internal memos addressing the rise in complaints about impartiality. The general defence they rely on is they usually get an equal number of complaints claiming bias the other way, its a crap defence but one they have relied on for years.

If the BBC see that the obsession with 'showing both sides' poo poo is actually pushing away younger viewers, they will react. The lack of youth interaction with BBC services is 90% of what the higher ups constantly talk about, they know the BBC days are numbered if they don't turn it around.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009



:thunk:



GAH

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Well, er, who's to say?


:thermidor:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Don't think of it as murder, think of it as circumcising a dickhead.

:thermidor:

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005





Priti must feed. And if she doesn't have access to the Home Office detainment camps for sustenance she will hit the dark alleys of Westminster.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

To be fair, the article is in the FactCheck section and it pretty much talks about how crap stop and search is ends with "To quote, Ferrari: “Unless she’s Mystic Priti, this makes no sense at all.”.
I get a lot of people just read headlines though.

Unless your criticism is just levelled at Priti, in which case, well its not the biggest lie shes ever told.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Dec 9, 2019

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

Yes :getin:




*Note to MI5: This is a joke

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Mega Comrade posted:

To be fair, the article is in the FactCheck section and it pretty much talks about how crap stop and search is ends with "To quote, Ferrari: “Unless she’s Mystic Priti, this makes no sense at all.”.
I get a lot of people just read headlines though.

Oh yeah, the article is one the level, it's just quite a headline to read. Like Labour was planning a guillotine lottery every week.

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Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Thank you. I have limited Potatoshop skills, so I decided to crowdsource some jokes ;)



And thank you for the variation, Naughty Guav :D


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