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There’s a specific set of charms that makes it so you can outheal the damage of the traps and just have infinite attempts.
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Bust Rodd posted:There’s a specific set of charms that makes it so you can outheal the damage of the traps and just have infinite attempts. Yeah, I think it's Deep Focus plus whatever allows you to generate more soul from taking damage. That's how I got through it. It's not so bad when there's no risk of death. Edit: Yeah, Deep Focus + Grubsong + Grubberfly's Elegy is essentially infinite soul for White Palace. Maybe Spell Twister as well if you have room but that's probably overkill. Some people also use Hiveblood but I think the wait time is too annoying. HMS Beagle fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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Dec 9, 2019 10:51
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The white palace is definitely the nadir of the game.
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Dec 9, 2019 14:29
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VikingofRock posted:A good charm setup is key to the White palace IMO. Hiveblood + grubsong gives you near-infinite attempts if you have some patience. Maybe throw in one of the nail-lengthening charms to make the pogo-ing easier. Hiveblood sucks for White Palace (and in general, really). It takes a million years for it to heal you, and you have to stop in between every single attempt or lose the health until the next time you rest anyways. Use the Deep Focus + Grubsong + Grubberfly's Elegy combo that several others have suggested instead. Arrhythmia posted:The white palace is definitely the nadir of the game. It owns, actually.
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Dec 9, 2019 14:54
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Yeah, I put on hiveblood and the grub one. I can have infinite attempts: of not enjoying myself. I just get the feeling that even if I get through this stupid meatboy stuff, I'll have to face another boss that is even more of a dick punch.
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Dec 9, 2019 19:28
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Waltzing Along posted:Yeah, I put on hiveblood and the grub one. I can have infinite attempts: of not enjoying myself. I just get the feeling that even if I get through this stupid meatboy stuff, I'll have to face another boss that is even more of a dick punch. Nope, it's just platforming. Hive blood is too slow. The soul from damage + double heal makes you effectively immortal and makes the whole thing much less tedious.
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Dec 9, 2019 19:32
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The White Palace sucks and almost ruined the game for me. I feel your pain, man.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:10
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I did the whole thing in like 2 hours, if you get creative and experiment you can skip YUGE chunks of half of it.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:15
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Or just do like I did and just not bother with the true ending cause the base game is hard as balls for me as it was and the bosses have too much health for my liking.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:17
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I thought the white palace (and the path of pain) was the best part of the game  . I’m awful at the bosses though. Every single one took me like a dozen tries, and I absolutely cannot beat King Grimm or the second Zote dream fight. Apparently there’s a harder version of the Grimm fight, too?
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Dec 9, 2019 20:19
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Bust Rodd posted:I did the whole thing in like 2 hours, if you get creative and experiment you can skip YUGE chunks of half of it. I stumbled bass ackwards into a pretty nice skip, yeah its definitely possible
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Dec 9, 2019 20:23
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I beat the dream zote fight, fwiw. The last guys I beat were the bee and the markoth. Markoth put me around 1850 of whatever the graveyard bug said I needed. I'm sure there are other bosses around. I know there was one dream ghost at least. Maybe two that I saw and was going to go back to. And I had 4 more grubs to get. I went up some elevator in the palace. Went down through a door and saw a bunch of platforms and saws and said F this and decided to wander around some more. Found another hall with then but no platforms so decided to try that. I got to a vertical shaft with some very tricky jumps and by that point was just burned out. I think I paused the game one the 3rd platform up the shaft.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:30
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The White Palace tests to make sure you have absolute mastery of the movement system of the game, and I'm really not sure you can beat the final boss without that mastery. If anyone comes in here and says "I hated the WP but I did fine against the last boss!" well, you passed the test, didn't you? Maybe all that practice in the WP made you better. But if you're not having fun playing a video game, you don't need to keep playing it, it's okay, you're still a good person.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:38
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Hell is exclusively for Holocaust deniers and Hollow Knight abandoners, sorry to have to be the one to tell you
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Dec 9, 2019 20:47
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OzFactor posted:The White Palace tests to make sure you have absolute mastery of the movement system of the game, and I'm really not sure you can beat the final boss without that mastery. If anyone comes in here and says "I hated the WP but I did fine against the last boss!" well, you passed the test, didn't you? Maybe all that practice in the WP made you better. I dunno, if you can beat Dream Zote you can probably beat every non-Godhome mega boss
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Dec 9, 2019 20:48
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Hollow Knight is one of the only games that I’ve ever beaten and still feel bad at.
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Dec 9, 2019 21:39
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Bust Rodd posted:Hollow Knight is one of the only games that I’ve ever beaten and still feel bad at.
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Dec 9, 2019 21:54
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There is no amount of GIT GUD to make me be able to beat all of Godhome
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Dec 10, 2019 01:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpLIbqBVtTg&t=716s I can't get by this point. I just can't do that string of moves fast enough. So that's it. I'm done. Over 30 mins of trying and it's become obvious I just can't do it. And seeing what is coming up I can tell I won't be able to do that stuff either. And now that I've seen what the last boss is. I wouldn't be able to do him, either. Hahaha. Holy poo poo. That fight is brutal.
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Dec 10, 2019 05:01
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Waltzing Along posted:And now that I've seen what the last boss is. I wouldn't be able to do him, either. Hahaha. Holy poo poo. That fight is brutal. I found her to be a lot easier to learn than HK was, tbh. I get having a place where you’re just done with the game. There’s a few things that I still haven’t bothered to finish. But dang it, everyone should play long enough to experience NKG.
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Dec 10, 2019 05:10
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I played Hollow Knight last year, and spent several hours suffering my way through the White Palace, and gave up at the final final boss. But since then I chewed my way through Celeste and maybe that'll give me the platforming chops I need to try again.
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Dec 10, 2019 05:17
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YggiDee posted:I played Hollow Knight last year, and spent several hours suffering my way through the White Palace, and gave up at the final final boss. But since then I chewed my way through Celeste and maybe that'll give me the platforming chops I need to try again. If you didn't beat the Radiance you haven't even beaten the 4th final boss bro
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Dec 10, 2019 05:21
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jeeves posted:There is no amount of GIT GUD to make me be able to beat all of Godhome I might do it some day, but I quit at Pantheon 5 for my last playthrough. The thing is... that's fine. I'd much rather have a game that extends past my limits as a player than one that can't challenge me.
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Dec 10, 2019 06:00
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I might do it some day, but I quit at Pantheon 5 for my last playthrough. that's what the bindings are for...
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Dec 10, 2019 06:04
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Arrhythmia posted:If you didn't beat the Radiance you haven't even beaten the 4th final boss bro I did all this before Godmaster
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Dec 10, 2019 06:13
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Challenging the motherfucking sun to a duel and seeing her unfurl her wings is one of the coolest moments in any video game ever imo.
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Dec 10, 2019 07:58
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SirSamVimes posted:Challenging the motherfucking sun to a duel and seeing her unfurl her wings is one of the coolest moments in any video game ever imo. The ending of Rain World might just have it beat for me but yeah it's definitely up there among my favourite moments
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Waltzing Along posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpLIbqBVtTg&t=716s Yep, this was exactly me. I'd gotten everything I wanted out of the game by this point and the thought of spending hours slowly chipping away at really hard platforming sections just so I can say to my uncaring self that I did it (nevermind a bunch of even more uncaring strangers on the internet) felt like a chore, so I ended my time with the game on a high note right then and there.
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I'm really bad at the combat in this game and mostly just brute force everything, but for whatever reason White Palace never really bothered me. Doing a second runthrough now and I cleared it in like a half hour and was surprised at how quickly it was over
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Hollow Knight’s platforming is a distinctly different kill set than Hollow Knight’s swordplay, and I think the game’s best boss fights are the ones that bridge that divide. You cannot beat The Mantis Lords if you haven’t figured out that level of platforming, and the tighter your jumps and lunges, the more damage you can do.
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Dec 12, 2019 18:05
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Bust Rodd posted:Hollow Knight’s platforming is a distinctly different kill set than Hollow Knight’s swordplay, and I think the game’s best boss fights are the ones that bridge that divide. The Colosseum is definitely equal parts fighting and platforming.
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Dec 12, 2019 18:31
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Team Cherry posted a "Holiday sign off" blog post along with a couple of samples from the Silksong soundtrack: http://teamcherry.com.au/team-cherry-holiday-sign-off/
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Flimf posted:Team Cherry posted a "Holiday sign off" blog post along with a couple of samples from the Silksong soundtrack: God, and I thought Dirtmouth's theme sounded depressed, Bonebottom's theme just sounds completely and utterly miserable. 
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Dec 13, 2019 15:20
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OzFactor posted:The White Palace tests to make sure you have extremely high tolerance of boredom.
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Nah it's fun.
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Dec 13, 2019 15:52
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Yea I loved the white palace. Git gud scrubs
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Dec 13, 2019 16:54
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Is white palace even as difficult as super mario world? Like sure PoP's final screen is downright brutal but the base one didnt even seem significantly more difficult than the queens garden platforming.
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Dec 13, 2019 16:55
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i was about to say that you didn't have to ever spike pogo to complete super mario world but wait there was the spin jump that let you bounce on spikes and it's been 20 years since i've played it, did you have to use that to get through levels?
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Dec 13, 2019 17:00
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I would rather clear the main White Palace path 8 times than do "Tubular" once
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Cowcaster posted:i was about to say that you didn't have to ever spike pogo to complete super mario world but wait there was the spin jump that let you bounce on spikes and it's been 20 years since i've played it, did you have to use that to get through levels? There was a secret ENDGAME zone in SMW made up of nuclear powered platforming super levels that’s required utter mastery of the game to beat, I’d put them about on par with White Palace, but again, I only beat White Palace by combining charms to negate the gruesome walk backs and skipping about 20% of it with clever crystal dashing
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