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Communist Thoughts posted:tomorrow we're gonna get the turbo antisemitism campaign lol Maybe. Meanwhile in the real world: https://twitter.com/JHatjoullis/status/1204161364232671233?s=20 E: In 1922 Labour won 142 seats becoming the second largest party and official opposition, after a decline in the Liberal vote.
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Labour 35 Tories 39. Four point gap. LAtest YOUGOV POLL https://d2yo3ms314fxf7.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/itsi0h01ub/TheTimes_Results_191209_w.pdf
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Lol. YouGov with just 4 points.. that means Labour are actually 10 points ahead.
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PawParole posted:Labour 35 Tories 39. This is nail biting stuff! But the real question is, if the Tories do lose, where else will they farm the tears and lamentations of the poor to fuel their genisis device and bring back Margaret Thatcher?
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Foul Ole Ron posted:This is nail biting stuff! The technology will be nationalised for Corbyn's Golden Throne.
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https://www.facebook.com/606214542726004/posts/3211901425490623/?app=fbl Apparently there was a cock-up and none of the Didcot leaflets that should have gone out actually went out.
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This is a good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZsYvkTw4Rg
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PawParole posted:Labour 35 Tories 39. why isn't this on twitter anywhere?
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PawParole posted:Maybe it’s a fake posting fake polls should be a bannable offence imo
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Angepain posted:I do like a lot of chocolate on my biscuit. I wish there was some sort of society, or group, that I could become a member of to meet like-minded people on this issue and work towards common goals. Bundy posted:
lenoon posted:Just want to say how much I appreciated this Way behind, catching up, but I wanted to say you folks make a nice trio
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Foul Ole Ron posted:But the real question is, if the Tories do lose, where else will they farm the tears and lamentations of the poor to fuel their genisis device and bring back Margaret Thatcher? Once he realises this, and is back in his wheelhouse of chuntering at nonexistent problems, I can see him sitting in the job and bullshitting / strongarming enough tories into letting him stay leader that he drives the tories out past the libs in terms of numbers. But you know what? I'll happily put up with Boris lying about Labour and accumulating columns among the dying tory press, as long as Corbyn is sat opposite, putting said policies in place. That seems like a nice thought to end on. Goodnight thread.
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Glad I didn't vote for Vaughan Gethin in the Welsh leadership elections. https://twitter.com/meirionj/status/1204139214419443715?s=20 https://twitter.com/meirionj/status/1204168215447908352?s=20
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Bobby Deluxe posted:The thing is, I think Boris will actually do very well for himself in opposition. He has been absolutely loving useless at running the country, but his main skillset is in bullshitting and criticism. His catchphrase is almost always a derivation of "If only X would let me do it, i'd be amazing," even when X is sitting there baffled because they have nothing to do with his failure to launch. I don't think Boris would survive as leader if he doesn't win this election. Tories are ruthless with failures.
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IrvingWashington posted:Way behind, catching up, but I wanted to say you folks make a nice trio ooo, nice
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What are the odds Boris even makes an attempt at damage control tomorrow? Considering his conduct thus far I wouldn't be surprised if he just pretends it never happened.
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PawParole posted:Maybe it’s a fake That's like eight pages of polling data why would someone fake that. It's legit. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-50722878 quote:Dozens of people have had to leave their homes after a fire ripped through a block of flats in Glasgow.
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Jel Shaker posted:Even if Corbyn wins, Whitehall will be 100% against a labour government, ironically an actual deep state A shitload of civil servants are pro-Labour. I remember one in particular talking to a contractor. The contractor was complaining that Labour would make his life hard as a landlord, and the CS replied "well, I'm a socialist so I think being a landlord is essentially being a parasite" and that shut the fucker up. He done it with a massive smile, too. Some of the best examples of inclusivity, particularly wrt trans folks, that I've seen in any organisation has been in the civil service, believe it or not.
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Chuka Umana posted:That's like eight pages of polling data why would someone fake that. It's legit. none of the sample numbers make any sense Chuff McNothing fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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I don’t know if the system is still the same but as of my parents’ time there (ended early 2000s) there was a gap between the fast track civil service and the rank and file (operational) CS. Fast track can be assumed to be centrist, with the very top levels leaning Tory. Operational are just ordinary people and split the same way, except with a more left wing lean on account of being better educated than the general public and not in the private sector.
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Wait a minute he says waking up again, why is this not embedded in the background for the thread? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This must just be HQ spends. Our CLP alone have spent over £500 so far on FB ads and I'm sure we're not the only ones! This is old now but I think it’s referencing per diem spending. You may be right, regardless!
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Jel Shaker posted:Even if Corbyn wins, Whitehall will be 100% against a labour government, ironically an actual deep state There are probably a few shitheads at the top who got there through the old boys network and will try to frustrate any left wing government, but plenty of people working at a more fundamental level will be happy with policy designed to make their jobs easier, to make their departments work in a way that serves public good rather than to funnel money to Capita etc. I'm so excited for this election.
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Also I'm stanning for Barry Gardiner as future deputy leader because he's absolutely been fire recently. He's everything twatson was meant to be. https://twitter.com/LauraPidcockMP/status/1204037649595543553 The next leadership election, whenever it is, may actually be a bit bittersweet in that we've got such a good selection of great MPs. A real contrast to the 3 blairites and jez.
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winegums posted:Also I'm stanning for Barry Gardiner as future deputy leader because he's absolutely been fire recently. He's everything twatson was meant to be. All swept aside before the conquering jess phillips
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The poll is defiantly fake. It was posted from an IP in the sechyelles. It’s a really well made fake but it’s fake. All the weighted/unweighted values for all the sub samples are identical to the 5-6th Dec one. The only different bit is the main VI section - this isn't consistent between 5-6 and 2-3rd Sorry guys. I was taken in too. Who’d spend so much time making a fake poll? PawParole fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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The Perfect Element posted:Well, in my opinion, yes. It does rehash some of the things we have heard before, but the overall argument that Corbyn, at best, tolerates a culture of anti semitism within the party is extremely powerful. And I say this as a dyed in the wool Corbynite. I skimmed it, it's the same bullshit tenuous association and spurious crying wolf shite. And I say this as a Jew and a non-Labour voter.
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Maybe the most aggravating thing in USPol for the past few years has been the Trump Safari - flagship liberal media sending reporting to diners in the midwest to speak exclusively to white working class voters who crossed from Democrat to Republican to vote for Trump, smile and nod while they spit bigotry, and then file a report about how Trump's support remains strong here among the one true voting class who really matter. I mention this because the BBC loving sent their senior North America to Wrexham to do the exact same loving thing. https://twitter.com/awzurcher/status/1204146619702222848 quote:All eyes in this week's UK election will be on constituencies like this one in North Wales, where Labour could lose power for the first time since 1935. Given that the Brexit vote in 2016 was followed by the election of Donald Trump months later, does the populist sentiment driving this change teach us anything about next year's US election?
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Chuka Umana posted:That's like eight pages of polling data why would someone fake that. It's legit. ANOTHER big fire in Glasgow. I just wonder who could possibly be setting those. If only there was some kind of organization that'd benefit from throwing up student accomodation in the ashes of mysteriously burned out buildings, which has been a pretty widespread trend across the entire city.
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Apraxin posted:Maybe the most aggravating thing in USPol for the past few years has been the Trump Safari - flagship liberal media sending reporting to diners in the midwest to speak exclusively to white working class voters who crossed from Democrat to Republican to vote for Trump, smile and nod while they spit bigotry, and then file a report about how Trump's support remains strong here among the one true voting class who really matter. Sometimes I want to kidnap one of these pricks and strap him to a rack and just keep cranking the thing until they explain to me exactly why they think people like Trump and Johnson tell the truth and do what they say. I mean, I know that it's code for "He's making things harder for the foreirngs" and "Send the buggers back" but I want to hear them say it. Or hear their joints explode, that works too.
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Communist Thoughts posted:we've got it in the bag lads, the only way we can lose is if the english vote for cruelty and stupidity over good policies going to place a bet on cruelty and stupidity Still can't fathom how the tories are that high in polling given the last ten years of their rule mila kunis fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Dec 10, 2019 |
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/this-election-is-an-upopularity-contest-9x96mb2qmquote:William Hogarth’s The Humours of an Election, on show at Sir John Soane’s Museum in London, portrays in grotesque detail the corrupt and dishonest practices used by politicians to win power. In the fictional constituency of Guzzledown bribery, intimidation, lies and antisemitism are rife. Britannia’s chariot has a broken axle, the sundial is engraved with the words “we are dust and shadows” and, in the final painting, the winner is toppled from his chair by stampeding pigs. The tricorn hats and breeches may be from the 18th century but the series resonates in the 21st as Britain prepares to go to the polls this week. The right wing press is now going with the "this election is miserable and we, the reasonable centrists, see it for what it is!! All sides are bad!! Whoever wins we lose!!!"
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Ms Adequate posted:Sometimes I want to kidnap one of these pricks and strap him to a rack and just keep cranking the thing until they explain to me exactly why they think people like Trump and Johnson tell the truth and do what they say.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:so after they cop to it you'd just, what, stop turning the crank? That's when she'd bust out the sound. E: Emphasis on bust.
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Chuka Umana posted:That's like eight pages of polling data why would someone fake that. It's legit. Never seen YouGov host results from an unnamed Cloudfront before. If it's not fake, they also hosed up the figures:   It's too good to be true and suspect; it's fake.
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Communist Thoughts posted:we've got it in the bag lads, the only way we can lose is if the english vote for cruelty and stupidity over good policies Well, I mean...
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