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I think that going with Edelgard doesn't completely lock you in - there's a later choice that does that. Not going definitely locks you out though. Annoyingly, if you do go with her, you immediately skip to the end of the month, losing out on further explorations and tutoring chances, so the minmax strategy for that route is to avoid talking to her until the last possible moment.
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The_Final_Stand posted:I think that going with Edelgard doesn't completely lock you in - there's a later choice that does that. Not going definitely locks you out though. Correct. I didn't mention that because it's relevant in the battle for this month, where I was going to discuss it.
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Dec 9, 2019 21:18
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Dec 9, 2019 21:30
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Ragnar Homsar posted:
The joy of Fire Emblem. You never know which character's gonna turn into an unstoppable death god.
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Dec 9, 2019 21:53
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I'm surprised you didn't mention the thing with the stat bases and mages. Base for Warlock is 30 HP and 12 defense. Pretty much all the natural mages have crappy enough defense growth that they get boosted to 12 right on promotion. But Lysithea gets the biggest stat benefit since her HP growth ALSO sucks horrendously. My last one went from 27 HP and 4 defense to the 30 and 12, it's a really big boost to her survivalbility. Means she can actually take a hit right on promotion even on Maddening. I'm surprised you're doing this path first honestly, but it's also the path I'm probably never going to play myself, so at least it's good for me to see. I kind of don't agree with the opinion on Enlightened One, it's purpose is essentially early access. It's the earliest that Byleth will get a 6 move class that can heal, and it has the all-important Swordfaire. Given that Byleth is still more inclined to physical hits even with their decent magic, it's a natural fit. It also helps in the sense that it's really hard to train Byleth's skills in the first parts. Mortal Savant is better for Byleth by the time you can get it, since at that time it's late enough that the -10% speed doesn't actually matter, and it adds more value to Byleth just having the option to switch to a spell to blast someone.
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Dec 9, 2019 22:18
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Bernie isn't stuck in her room because she's shy and dealing with PTSD. It's just an excuse so that she can bench 500 without embarrassing the entire school
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Dec 9, 2019 22:25
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Keldulas posted:I'm surprised you didn't mention the thing with the stat bases and mages. Base for Warlock is 30 HP and 12 defense. Pretty much all the natural mages have crappy enough defense growth that they get boosted to 12 right on promotion. But Lysithea gets the biggest stat benefit since her HP growth ALSO sucks horrendously. My last one went from 27 HP and 4 defense to the 30 and 12, it's a really big boost to her survivalbility. Means she can actually take a hit right on promotion even on Maddening. Enlightened One can use magic.
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Dec 9, 2019 23:46
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Bernadetta was my queen shitwrecker on my first playthrough. It's good to see her continuing on in her ways.
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Dec 10, 2019 01:07
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The number of people that never played this seems odd considering how heavily advertised it was, and it was basically the most popular for the first 3 weeks.
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Dec 10, 2019 01:10
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Tae posted:The number of people that never played this seems odd considering how heavily advertised it was, and it was basically the most popular for the first 3 weeks. I made the decision to get this game in large part because of this LP, tbh. I'm just waiting so my family can say they got me something for Christmas. Though I'm planning to go Blue Lions first. One thing this LP did for sure was convince me to recruit Bernie to save her.
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Dec 10, 2019 01:12
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 Update 28. (SSLP Test Poster version.)
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Enlightened One can use magic. Enlightened One can use magic yes, that's why I mentioned it's the earliest 6 move class Byleth gets that can heal. However, Mortal Savant has Swordfaire AND Black Tomefaire, so it just adds extra punch to Byleth's hit if they pop a Ragnarok or something on someone's face.
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Dec 10, 2019 01:30
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Tae posted:The number of people that never played this seems odd considering how heavily advertised it was, and it was basically the most popular for the first 3 weeks. I didn't have a switch until very recently and haven't gotten around to buying fe3h yet (because pokemon).
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Dec 10, 2019 01:38
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I think Tae is referring to people who have played 3H but haven’t played Silver Snow—no point in hiding the name now, we’re already on it.
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This part is sooooo great. Flame Emperor is hilariously sad. Level 1 Edelgard with a training sword could double herself. Though if she gets to fire off her gambit she'll ruin anyone. Any Relics or battalions are removed from the two of them As well as... CI. Now that we've had a close up. Abby's new headdress has the same heart-shape as Sothis and Rhea's does. It's not normally worth commenting on the maps themselves, but the Holy Tomb is ridiculously huge.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I think Tae is referring to people who have played 3H but haven’t played Silver Snow—no point in hiding the name now, we’re already on it. Ooops, yeah. e: I made a dumb joke about edel and the flame emperor and it turns out it was accurate 
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Dec 10, 2019 01:52
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I'm pretty sure most people went with Edelgard on her trip. I know I did.
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Welp, here's the path I refuse to play. Let's see if they can convince me even painting her in the worst possible light that Edelgard is wrong to prosecute the war. (I haven't played Blue Lions quite yet, but probably sometime next year once I clear out some backlog.)
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Dec 10, 2019 01:54
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I'm pretty sure most people went with Edelgard on her trip. I know I did. There’s no reason not to, if you’re not me and deliberately saving it for Edelgard’s route, which, fun fact, will be the final one of the LP.
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CmdrKing posted:Welp, here's the path I refuse to play. Let's see if they can convince me even painting her in the worst possible light that Edelgard is wrong to prosecute the war. Having not played the game, I'm tempted to agree with this sentiment. Rhea seems creepy in her interactions with the Protagonist and most of Fodlan's problems seem to step either from Feudalism being a thing in general -which the Church provides a convenient reason for- or explicitly due to the church's policies. Edelgard's choice in allies is... you know, abhorrent and baffling, but the Church seems to be an unambiguously negative force in the world and her cause seems just, if not her methods. Looking forward to seeing me eat my own words, though.
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Dec 10, 2019 01:59
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CmdrKing posted:Welp, here's the path I refuse to play. Let's see if they can convince me even painting her in the worst possible light that Edelgard is wrong to prosecute the war. I'm gonna have a lot to say when we get there, but I don't know if Ragnar is cool with dumb effortposts comparing Edelgard to various historical figures.
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So now that it's out in the thread, I have to say, the future emperor who just happens to have the crest of flames naming her secret identity the "Flame Emperor" is the stupidest poo poo. Yes, I know you only learn about that crest on black eagle routes, but it's still dumb
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I'm gonna have a lot to say when we get there, but I don't know if Ragnar is cool with dumb effortposts comparing Edelgard to various historical figures. Save them for Azure Moon or Crimson Flower, please.
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Dec 10, 2019 02:01
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I uh... may have written *checks* 4300 words about the political/religious/philosophical differences between the four routes. It involved a lot of trashtalking Silver Snow. But y'know that'd be premature. Aside from noting that I will probably say lots of mean things about various plot things as they happen. I suspect our lovely host will be as well though.
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I’m unfortunately not the most versed in history, or philosophy, so I’d welcome effortposts by people who know more than me when the time is right. I should note one thing regarding the plot: given that every route is missing context about the others, never assume you know everything about the major players of the story (Edelgard, Dimitri, Claude, Rhea, Seteth, Jeralt, even Those Who Slither in the Dark) until the game is over. I mean, it’s safe to assume Those Who Slither in the Dark are supremely awful people, but bear in mind we still don’t get why yet. It won’t justify it, though.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:There’s no reason not to, if you’re not me and deliberately saving it for Edelgard’s route, which, fun fact, will be the final one of the LP. So, Silver Snow > Blue Lions > Golden Deer > Edelgard, I'm assuming?
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Dec 10, 2019 02:23
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McTimmy posted:So, Silver Snow > Blue Lions > Golden Deer > Edelgard, I'm assuming? Swap VW and AM.
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It's not a Fire Emblem without a politically-charged gut punch  Edelgard's also been hinting at this for a bit in her dialogue questions. Really the only surprise about this is how poor her combat stats are. Which also makes a kind of sense. The only question I have here is 'where's Hubert?'
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As someone who didn't make it a habit to talk to students, yet went Black Eagles because unga bunga strong lady, this was quite the gutpunch, both emotionally and practically. If you dumped your Dark Seals into Hubert...y'know, like the game _really_ pushes you to, you don't get any return investment when he fucks off. It sucks.
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This may be too soon to ask this question, but I'd like to ask a question: Was war across Fodlan inevitable? Were the three nations in desperate enough times that war became a possibility?
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:This may be too soon to ask this question, but I'd like to ask a question: All will be revealed in due time.
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I look forward to seeing this route as I don't know if I will ever be able to make this choice myself.
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So, we've come to it at last. A reminder from the very beginning of the game, that often seems to be missed/forgotten about.  Why yes, Edelgard was the one that DIRECTLY hired those bandits that attacked in the prologue... the ones that would have axed her if it wasn't for Abby throwing herself in the way. Keep that in mind when considering all those conclusions and justifications Edelgard's reached in order to take this path.
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Lord Koth posted:So, we've come to it at last. A reminder from the very beginning of the game, that often seems to be missed/forgotten about. A lot of the flawed decisions that the leading character make, I usually internally reason as "they're imperfect people and don't have perfect decision making," but Edelgard deciding to hire random bandits who don't know not to axe her is...beyond that.
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I watched the beginning a lot. Edelgard was perfectly fine defending herself, byleth took the jaws of defeat from victory and needlessly flung themselves to death.
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I kind of ignore that beginning cutscene in general because it's incredibly contrived on many levels to introduce the time rewind. Where did literally everyone else go, where the gently caress is Edelgard's axe, taking the guy down did absolutely nothing to stop him that time, but the second map you fight him on he dies with no fanfare, Byleth didn't even TRY to use their sword to defeat the bandit before the rewind.
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Dec 10, 2019 10:58
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Latching onto that mechanics insert at the start - if you had Edelgard and Hubert as combat monsters stat/level-wise, would it carry over into even effort fight here?
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Lord Koth posted:So, we've come to it at last. A reminder from the very beginning of the game, that often seems to be missed/forgotten about. Well, Edelgard was only in danger because Claude ran off from their Knights of Seiros escort. GuyUpNorth posted:Latching onto that mechanics insert at the start - if you had Edelgard and Hubert as combat monsters stat/level-wise, would it carry over into even effort fight here? No. Flame Emperor is in fact so awful that on normal she has 6 SPD. Level 1 Edelgard has 8.
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McTimmy posted:No. Flame Emperor is in fact so awful that on normal she has 6 SPD. Level 1 Edelgard has 8. To be fair: 1)That armor has got to be heavy and cumbersome, and it's mostly for masking her identity. Spoilers, her actual Fire Emperor outfit is nothing similar. 2) It's normal difficulty. Speedy class enemies cap at like 30 on normal. I've had Dedue routinely double enemies on normal, no carrots involved.
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Omobono posted:To be fair: Flame Emperor has a -3 SPD penalty. So she would have 9/13/20. That's still not impressive.
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