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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Larry Parrish posted:

id like to clarify that I didnt like that thread or find it funny regardless but i dont like that the bad thread w/ bad posting has turned into some big purge; that's what happened in the Bad Old Days and I dont like that kind of thing coming back. theres supposed to be a process and skipping all that straight to permas and 30+bans is bad, full stop

OTOH decorum is for liberals

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Plutonis posted:

pro-fascist tankies
new thread title

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

comedyblissoption posted:

new thread title

it would be a good in-joke but please no lol

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Larry Parrish posted:

id like to clarify that I didnt like that thread or find it funny regardless but i dont like that the bad thread w/ bad posting has turned into some big purge; that's what happened in the Bad Old Days and I dont like that kind of thing coming back. theres supposed to be a process and skipping all that straight to permas and 30+bans is bad, full stop

smdh at the lack of Forums Due Process

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

we have the struggle session now or when theres a qcs thread accusing anyone left of elizabeth warren of being a genocide denying nazi-loving tankie

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Crazycryodude posted:

OTOH decorum is for liberals

the trans folks unfortunately were infected by it too, doing some weird bigotry to shooter pipeline theory instead of saying they wanted this list of posters dead by the end of the week. :sad:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/MarxistsOOC/status/1133105136153366533

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Homeless Friend posted:

the trans folks unfortunately were infected by it too, doing some weird bigotry to shooter pipeline theory instead of saying they wanted this list of posters dead by the end of the week. :sad:

that's what bothers me so much. it rapidly went from 'these posts were hurtful and bad' to 'jack daniels is a white supremacist and probably an incel mass shooter as is the rest of fyad'

id like to point out that jd is black and I really doubt hes living that one chappel sketch irl

also there was some post about how trans people dont feel safe on the forum and they get run off, like, an hour after skylark got banned which is just :how:.

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

fyadiamat

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Fyador Dostoyevsky

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Larry Parrish posted:

that's what bothers me so much. it rapidly went from 'these posts were hurtful and bad' to 'jack daniels is a white supremacist and probably an incel mass shooter as is the rest of fyad'


:ironicat:

edit:
i mean if we're going to get annoyed with hyperbole it's probably not good to be hyperbolic about it

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

GalacticAcid posted:

Fyador Dostoyevsky

*writes down for a rainy day*

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

fyadimir ilych lenin
uphold mao ze tane thought

12 rats tied together
Sep 7, 2006

there was a fyad with the name Fyador Postoevsky a while ago and it always made me laugh

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
fyadomor

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I was listening to the podcast Swampside Chats the other day and they said something offhandedly about how telling it is that racists are fine with voting for the libcuck Yang in exchange for $1000 a month.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
bribery works

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Grevling posted:

I was listening to the podcast Swampside Chats the other day and they said something offhandedly about how telling it is that racists are fine with voting for the libcuck Yang in exchange for $1000 a month.

quote:

THE "PANACEA" MASS MOVEMENTS

Striking manifestations of the broad democratic upsurge of the masses during the early New Deal period were the many "panacea" mass agitations. These were wide movements of farmers, city middle classes, and proletarian elements, sometimes running into the millions. Generally it was the workers who gave vitality to these movements. Shaken by the deep economic crisis, these masses struck out blindly against capitalism, desperately striving for some remedy. Usually their programs were fantastically utopian, and the demagogic leaders were frequently fascist-minded, but the masses were full of democratic fighting spirit. That such confused movements could spring up testified to the ideological backwardness of the American workers and their lack of a broad political party with progressive working class leadership.

1. Technocracy: Fathered by Howard Scott and based upon a mishmash of ideas of the I.W.W. and Thorstein Veblen, this movement developed during the deepest phases of the economic crisis and ran like wildfire throughout the country in 1932-33, the entire capitalist press being agog with it. Technocracy was based on the fallacy that the evils of capitalism originated not primarily in its productions relations, but simply in its "distributive system." Its cure-all was to substitute a system of "ergs," or energy units, in place of the current "price system." Technocracy denied that the workers were exploited, repudiated the class struggle, and rejected the revolutionary role of the workers. In substance, it advocated a ruling aristocracy of engineers. For a while it had a big vogue among the intellectuals, making a special appeal to engineers and technicians. It declined as swiftly as it arose, but some remnants still linger.

2. End-Poverty-in-California (Epic): This movement grew up rapidly in California and neighboring states following the publication, in October 1933, of Upton Sinclair's book, I, Governor of California. Epic was based upon the idea of self-help among the unemployed. It proposed that idle factories be turned over to the unemployed workers, who would operate them and develop a system of barter. It held to the utopian belief that a separate system of non-profit-making production and exchange could exist independently within the framework of the capitalist system, which is based upon private ownership and distribution. On the Epic ticket Upton Sinclair, Democratic candidate for governor of California in 1934, polled 879,000 votes against 1,138,000 for Merriam, after which the Epic movement gradually faded out. 9

3. The Utopian Society: This organization, launched by E. J. Reed, in the fall of 1933, soon grew to claim a million adherents in southern California. The Utopians, declaring for the "Brotherhood of Man" and "Plenty for All," hoped to achieve general prosperity through government ownership. Largely middle class, the movement rejected the class struggle and had no day-to-day demands. Its life span was short.

4. The Townsend National Recovery Plan: Animated by a fanatical enthusiasm and eventually claiming several millions of adherents, this huge mass movement was launched, in April 1934, by Dr. F. E. Townsend in Long Beach, California. It was basically a movement of the elderly and middle-aged. Its panacea was to establish maximum pensions of $200 per month for the aged, to be financed chiefly by a national two percent transactions tax. The $20 billion thus raised yearly, it was hoped, would not only provide for the aged but, keeping the industries in active operation, would provide a general and lasting prosperity for the whole population. The Townsend Plan failed to realize, however, that the basis of the crisis and destitution was the private ownership of the industries, and that only when this was abolished and socialism established could economic crises be averted and prosperity and full employment assured. The Townsend movement was a considerable pension force for many years and still exists. 10

5. The "Ham and Eggs" Movement: This was another mass panacea movement having a special appeal to the aged. It too, originated in southern California, where old people doubly abound. Formally known as the Retirement Life Payments Association, it was founded during the 1930's by L.W. Allen of Hollywood. In 1938 and 1939 the movement succeeded in placing on the referendum ballot a constitutional amendment providing that the state of California would pay $30 per week (every Thursday) for life to every unemployed or retired California citizen over 50 years old or over. The move was defeated both times at the polls. The official weepy organ was called National Ham and Eggs.

6. The National Union for Social Justice: This movement, in organized form, was launched in November 1934, in Detroit, by Rev. Charles E. Coughlin, Catholic priest. Fortune, at the time, estimated that this demagogue had ten million listeners to his weekly radio broadcasts. An expression of this movement was the notorious Christian Front, with its organized groups of hoodlums and storm troopers. Cough-lin's Utopia was built upon the traditional American illusion that prosperity could be achieved by issuing huge quantities of paper currency. His following was especially strong among Middle West farmers, city middle class elements, and Catholic industrial workers. Coughlin himself, a silver speculator and associate of big bankers, was a violent critic of everything democratic, and he undoubtedly aimed at establishing a fascist America—presumably with himself as the dictator. He was finally "silenced" by the Catholic Church, which apparently did not yet -want to be so completely identified with fascism in the United States. The Communist Party conducted a most active struggle against this dangerous movement.11

7. Share-the-Wealth: This mass movement sprang up in 1934 and spread with the rapidity characteristic of the "panacea" agitations generally. Its founder was Senator Huey P. Long of Louisiana. Long, the "kingfish," had as his main slogans, "Share the Wealth" and "Every Man a King." He proposed to take away most of the capitalists' wealth by a gigantic capital levy. The resulting $165 billion in the hands of the government he would distribute among the people, each family getting $5,000 down and each worker also being assured a yearly income of $2,500. The Share-the-Wealth movement was the most fantastic of all the panaceas and Long the most effective fascist demagogue the United States had yet seen. He set up a virtual dictatorship in Louisiana and also had a wide following among the poor farmers and workers all over the South. He was assassinated in September 1935, by a man whom he had victimized, after which his movement, fallen into the less capable hands of Gerald L. K. Smith and others, gradually disintegrated.12

The Communist Party paid close attention to the "panacea" movements. Although often led by dangerous demagogues, these movements were not wholly in vain. They dramatized the plight of the workers, the unemployed, the aged, the farmers, and the impoverished petty bourgeoisie. They also evidenced the determination of the people to fight against the outrageous conditions which engulfed them. The development of the reform aspects of Roosevelt's New Deal program was a fundamental factor in undermining and preventing the further development of such movements. That the "panacea" movements did not become perverted into a real base for American fascism was also due in no small measure to the activities of the Communist Party in exposing their economic fallacies, in combating their reactionary leaders, and in directing their masses into more practical channels of political struggle.

http://williamzfoster.blogspot.com/2013/01/chapter-twenty-two-broad-democratic.html

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

Larry Parrish posted:

it was the thread for posting boomer rear end fb memes basically. it's like saying the landlord thread in this forum which is mostly full of insanely racist nextdoor posts is actually supportive of racism

gently caress off with this

that thread was full of legit unironic vile posts and anyone who read that poo poo knew it

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...



tragique

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Varinn posted:

gently caress off with this

that thread was full of legit unironic vile posts and anyone who read that poo poo knew it

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Zas posted:

lets discuss fyad... from a communist perspective :twisted:

"this tank ain't big enough for both of us"

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Scrree
Jan 16, 2008

the history of all dead generations,
i'd rather die than have freedom of speech

Scrree
Jan 16, 2008

the history of all dead generations,
being scared of power being wielded against your enemies because it may hypothetically be turned on you in the future is some lib poo poo. it's useless to fret about the idea of a 'dangerous precedence' because precedence doesn't actually exist; power is either used arbitrarily as part of an ideological struggle or it's not used at all.

what happened recently is that a den of wreckers and vipers were flushed out and crushed under heel. be joyous and laugh in victory! it's really as simple as that.

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
reading about transfobia in fyad was my return to kharak

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Grevling posted:

I was listening to the podcast Swampside Chats the other day and they said something offhandedly about how telling it is that racists are fine with voting for the libcuck Yang in exchange for $1000 a month.

One of the few p*dc*sts I'll ever say a nice word about. Their "In the Enemy Camp" series is really good.

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

swampside chats had a really embarrassing “takedown” of rev left/prolepods Stalin episode where they invited a lib slavic studies guy who never listened to the ep and didn’t follow up on their dumbass attempts on dunks

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Scrree posted:

being scared of power being wielded against your enemies because it may hypothetically be turned on you in the future is some lib poo poo. it's useless to fret about the idea of a 'dangerous precedence' because precedence doesn't actually exist; power is either used arbitrarily as part of an ideological struggle or it's not used at all.

Empty quoting this for the American left

Neurophage
Oct 11, 2012

Trash Ops posted:

swampside chats had a really embarrassing “takedown” of rev left/prolepods Stalin episode where they invited a lib slavic studies guy who never listened to the ep and didn’t follow up on their dumbass attempts on dunks

actually the stalin episode was really bad and pretending there was no famine is also really stupid

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
[thinking harder than i ever have in my life] there was a famine... and it was... good....?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Neurophage posted:

actually the stalin episode was really bad and pretending there was no famine is also really stupid



please post in one of this forums hundreds of other threads where anybody gives a poo poo

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
Was it one of the rev left hosts who tweeted their preteen child's trotsky murder fantasy poem like "aw look at my cute smart kid"?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Neurophage posted:

actually the stalin episode was really bad and pretending there was no famine is also really stupid

gently caress off troll. Nobody has ever said that.

Neurophage
Oct 11, 2012

Larry Parrish posted:

gently caress off troll. Nobody has ever said that.

the guests seemed to me to suggest that there was no famine at all. you can dismiss the far right ukrainian framing of it without implying that people didn't actually die. it's been a long time since i listened to the episode, so i might be misremembering.

Bryter posted:

Was it one of the rev left hosts who tweeted their preteen child's trotsky murder fantasy poem like "aw look at my cute smart kid"?

yes

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
podcasts,

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Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

no one denies a famine, just whether it was ebil stalin masterminding it vs just something terrible happening jfc

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