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I'm going to bed, and I'm going to try to withhold judgement until the morning. Love to you all.
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Guess I'd better start building my Brexit stockpile up again then.
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happy to confirm I will now be campaigning unreservedly for a united ireland. gently caress the english
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oxford_town posted:ironically a tory majority is the least likely option to allow a second indy ref Westminster doesnt technically need to allow one if the Scottish Gov take it to the European High Court
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forkboy84 posted:And that would have won over the people who voted Tory today in the traditional heartlands how? No, you have to accept the people in the heartlands are a bunch of fascists now. The political dichotomy is not socialism and conservatism its cosmopolitan liberalism versus nationalism. If there's any lessons to take away from tonight it's that neoliberalism has implemented itself in society in such a way that it's just a generally accepted fact of life.
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Last great hope is those 55SNP seats mean an overwhelming result for Scotland, and a new push for Independence. But -gently caress-.
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The pro-Remain parties are predicted 14 seats between them, choosing that side wouldn't have been the answer.
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Guys, lighten up. It's one election. There'll be a next one.
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Chuka Umana posted:who the gently caress was corbyn pandering to with his bullshit compromise positions. They could've completely neutered the Lib Dem threat day one by backing remain. Well yeah clearly, but Corbyn has made it pretty clear for years that he wants Britain out of the EU. And it looks like he got his wish.
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peanut- posted:Turns out London is really not very representative and lots of the country really loving loves Brexit. Grim reality. Sorry lads. I wish us all luck and hope Labour can do better next time.
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CyberPingu posted:Westminster doesnt technically need to allow one if the Scottish Gov take it to the European High Court interesting what happens if the anticipated Johnson Full Brexit happens?
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oxford_town posted:it wasn't, it was a radical manifesto for UK politics It was radical by modern UK standards only because of how far back the Thatcherites have rolled back the welfare state established post-1944. The aims were absolutely not as radical as we needed. Frankly I wish we'd compromised less but ho hum, I get why they did. We don't have control of the PLP.
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Katty! posted:happy to confirm I will now be campaigning unreservedly for an independent scotland. gently caress the english
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kustomkarkommando posted:gently caress big john is not pleased Andrew Neil like a pig in poo poo. John doesn't seem shocked. I think they saw this coming
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Scotland should immediately declare independence and I fully support the Irish taking back the north, England is trAsh american colony
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Celexi posted:Hopefully the us doesn't go with another dumb vote next year lol
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Katty! posted:happy to confirm I will now be campaigning unreservedly for a united ireland. gently caress the english Oh yea cuz the Republic of Ireland is so much better. Totally not a vassal state for loving Brussels and Frankfurt.
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forkboy84 posted:It was radical by modern UK standards only because of how far back the Thatcherites have rolled back the welfare state established post-1944. The aims were absolutely not as radical as we needed. Frankly I wish we'd compromised less but ho hum, I get why they did. We don't have control of the PLP. given the possible outcome now, is it rational to imply that the electorate should have been offered a more radical manifesto?
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Zero Gravitas posted:So, what do we make of this? UK is a bad country
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John McD is KILLING it on BBC in the midst of the most harsh circumstances imaginable. His response to the accusation - which is going to dominate for the next few years - that we've gone too far left, was perfect; we are not far left, the policies being put forward are loving centre left you stupid cunts.
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DekeThornton posted:Labour picked a far left crank as their party leader and the UK electorate don't find that appealing. It's not rocket science really. Can these pricks please be probated until tomorrow morning for our own sanity?
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CyberPingu posted:Westminster doesnt technically need to allow one if the Scottish Gov take it to the European High Court For however much longer that court will have jurisdiction.
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gently caress the tories, gently caress their billionaire enablers in the media, gently caress the BBC, long live the Internationale
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caps on caps on caps posted:Guys, lighten up. It's one election. There'll be a next one. that's hopeful
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oxford_town posted:interesting I have no loving clue. England is a shithole, coming from someone who is half English, sorry England goons, you will always be welcome in Scotland
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Katty! posted:happy to confirm I will now be campaigning unreservedly for a united ireland. gently caress the english welcome aboard. Realtalk - while I've been indoctrinated to want a United Ireland since birth, and I truly believe in it as a political goal, I would give that all up for a credible leftist UK government helping to build international socialism. but that's not where we are, so 26+6=1
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Pistol_Pete posted:Guess I'd better start building my Brexit stockpile up again then. The one and only good thing about this is the ERG won't be able to muscle us into No Deal.
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still leaning on if we turned Putney from blue to red I did something worthwhile. If it doesnt then gently caress everything Britain doesnt deserve nice things
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Chuka Umana posted:No, you have to accept the people in the heartlands are a bunch of fascists now. The political dichotomy is not socialism and conservatism its cosmopolitan liberalism versus nationalism. Holy gently caress you are absolutely clueless. Staggeringly stupid. Giving up on parts of the working class because of false conciousness is moronic. It's far more complex.
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Chuka Umana posted:Oh yea cuz the Republic of Ireland is so much better. Totally not a vassal state for loving Brussels and Frankfurt. tbh better than the UK right now
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