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peanut- posted:The people who have voted for this en masse are the people that are going to get absolutely hosed. I will never understand. Most of the younger ones are probably from rich enough families that they are insulated. Older ones won't be around to see the full impact. And then a whole big dose of idiots. Using the word idiot in the historical context, it's not even an insult. People just being fuckin' willfully ignorant. Edit: something cute for the top of the page as some comfort 
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The new plan for the UK left is a resurgence after Brexit wrecks the economy and maybe rejoining the EU in 25 years when the xenophobes have all died off.
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ThinkTank posted:How is it that every democracy on earth keeps screwing up really easy decisions lately? Boomers
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welp im out for the night,  to the fash ascendancy, see all ye on the true political battleground (internet posting)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlPjL2Zym4
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CyberPingu posted:Reform the Celtic alliance I've been saying it the whole time Celtic Union of National Territories It's perfect
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I just had a torgasm from reading the last 20 repkies
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Sorry chaps. I'm glad I got to visit while you were still basically a functioning country. And here's hoping for Scot Ref II and Norn Ref I
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Maybe this is like when Fivethirtyeight had republicans winning the house for a little bit? Or maybe we need to lower our expectations for humanity.
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:Aren't they using a new exit poll method this year? I heard they were doing per-constituency polls yeah
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I wish it was Friday so I could drink hard and fast tonight because this is brutal. I had geared myself up for a small Tory majority but I wasn't prepared for this.
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Thom12255 posted:Like this sucks but my wife did the same thing when Trump won - we're still here 3 years on fighting the fight - don't give up. She’s already being abused in the street for talking to our daughter in Portuguese, and the daily attacks in the media and by Johnson on EU citizens has reinforced how unwelcome she feels here. The strain it’s put on us is incredible, and why I now struggle with anxiety.
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OldMemes posted:Alienating traditional Labour voters, floating voters and centrists was a bad move. Oh will you just gently caress off to wherever you came from
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oxford_town posted:it does somewhat support the argument that the Momentum-backed offensive strategy was flawed If it is due to demographic support shifting then I don't know that strategy matters. It is quite possible that people over 30 just don't believe things can get better, on the whole, and will vote with low information based on what the news tells them to do. The press ran an absurdly anti-labour campaign and it seems to have worked on labour's traditional support base, despite labour's policy being wholly in their favour. It is possible that traditional labour voters just want the tories in a red rosette, because decades of poison by the press and previous governments have rendered them unable to conscience anything else.
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Hello I'm not usually known for being a voice of reason but please all remember that exit polls have been extremely wrong before, let's not call it till the fat lady sings E: yes I'm mad too, but despair achieves nothing
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Nucleic Acids posted:I cannot even conceive of how any migrant, refugee, or EU citizen residing in Britain must feel. My wife is a migrant and she burst into tears. She is a hardened political creature, minoring in Pol. This broke her heart. The night isn't over yet though
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I mean at least I'm unemployed and mentally ill. I mean its not great but at least i dont have to work tomorrow
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Be disappointed. Be gutted. Be angry. Be upset. Don't give up. The fight continues, take a breather. If the poll is right, the consequences won't take long to transpire and socialism will be there again. Solidarity.
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OldMemes posted:Alienating traditional Labour voters, floating voters and centrists was a bad move. your posts smell of piss, and are quite flappy. gently caress off
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Theodyn posted:I'm a lurker here, but it's very interesting how many people who I don't ever see in the thread suddenly turned up to poo poo-talk Labour and Corbyn. Anyone who dared to maybe point out that Corbyn might not deliver jam socialism forever was ran out of the thread. If those figures are close to reality he needs to go.
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Corbyn is maybe a good guy, but a bad politician. Okay. Also people are assholes sometimes. But don't cry over this jfc. Don't make it worse than it is. Keep sane.
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People are asking how anyone could vote for Boris and the best answer I can give is "They weren't." It was a vote for brexit and a vote against Corbyn . You could have replaced Boris with a fish in a bucket and I feel like the results wouldn't have changed much. I'm feeling woozy like I just took a punch to the head, and very bitter towards current political system atm.
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Don't forget, there is no final victory and there is no final defeat. Don't give up.
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Bundy posted:Be disappointed. Be gutted. Be angry. Be upset.
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Pesmerga posted:She’s already being abused in the street for talking to our daughter in Portuguese, and the daily attacks in the media and by Johnson on EU citizens has reinforced how unwelcome she feels here. The strain it’s put on us is incredible, and why I now struggle with anxiety. I'm sorry that's happened, I'm sure it must feel devasting to go through that.
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freeasinbeer posted:Anyone who dared to maybe point out that Corbyn might not deliver jam socialism forever was ran out of the thread. If those figures are close to reality he needs to go. You'll be back out of the UKMT soon enough you oval office. Corbyn will go, and we'll be all the poorer for it.
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If we ended up with a historically large mismatch between vote share and seats due to how exactly the votes were distributed...
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Zakutambah posted:I just do not understand people. Leaving JC to the side; how do you look at Boris, his performance up until now, his utter lack of empathy, his complete refusal to talk on any real policy over the campaign... how do you look at that, and think "yes, that person represents a party of values I support"? Nothing personal about it, just looking at him fumbling around in any professional role; mayor, politician, foreign sec, prime minister. Absolute clown shoes. I do wonder if a big part of the difference between tonight and 2017 is that a lot of Brexit-supporting men who couldn’t bring themselves to cross over to vote for an austere, aloof, smartly-dressed, matronly woman did so eagerly for a laddish hyper-masculine figure with more or less the exact same policies.
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freeasinbeer posted:Anyone who dared to maybe point out that Corbyn might not deliver jam socialism forever was ran out of the thread. If those figures are close to reality he needs to go. lol stfu dumbarse
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I guess I'm one of those lovely posters that just turn up when things look bleak but honestly I was just looking for places to follow it. I'm Scottish but lived in Norway these past 17 years. So I didn't get to vote even. Have been holding off on Norwegian citizenship but I guess I'd better get that ball rolling. Looking for silver linings here, if they can be found. Increased possibility of Scottish independence is all I got.
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This must be what the McGovern campaign felt like.
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Orange Devil posted:Don't forget, there is no final victory and there is no final defeat. Don't give up. 
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'Lol Corbyn is dumb he shouldn't have offered something totally different it was too easy to attack' Yes we should've done an Ed Milliband and offered a watered down version of the tory manifesto obviously 
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Nucleic Acids posted:I cannot even conceive of how any migrant, refugee, or EU citizen residing in Britain must feel. I'm just extremely sad, and tired because it turns out most of this country are cunts, and they revel in it. All those people saying "oh the streets belong to us" and "we must fight", well it turns out the majority are just petty minded selfish assholes. And the streets belong to them.
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Nucleic Acids posted:I cannot even conceive of how any migrant, refugee, or EU citizen residing in Britain must feel. I’m two of those ans the answer is not good.
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Bundy posted:Be disappointed. Be gutted. Be angry. Be upset.
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Saith posted:No, the first thing the Tories did was rule out a referendum. The only way for independence is an ''''''''''illegitimate''''''' referendum or a unilateral declaration. The mass amounts of SNP seats being won mean that they'll be able to make it a constant issue. If the Tories refuse any form of a referendum, then it will turn it into a constant sticking point and basically doom that union. Not only that, but it would probably kick off similar independence momentum in Northern Ireland. In ten years, the UK could very well be reduced to just England and Wales. Which to be fair, apparently doesn't bother many Brits.
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Corbyn bad, but Labour good. Johnson really, really awful, Tories awful. I was hoping for a Labour-Lib coalition.
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caps on caps on caps posted:Corbyn is maybe a good guy, but a bad politician. Okay. Also people are assholes sometimes. Brexit with a conservative majority is, in fact, a uniquely loving terrible happening so how about you shut the gently caress up
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