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Bryter posted:Actual ideological Blairite MPs have almost all left the party or parliament altogether. The party membership, who are the ones who in the end vote for the leadership, are more solidly left leaning than ever. Over the last 4 years the left has gained control of the party's institutions. The Labour right are not capable of reversing all of this any time soon. That's heartening at least.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Nice preview of Trump's supermajority win next year. inshallah
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Paramemetic posted:nobody gets off this ride until we all do, it's the CSPAM sacred pact to ride this bitch out together until the oceans boil its going to get tougher to laugh when we're gunning down climate refugees at the border and also i have somehow less money than i do now
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:it was hope more than prediction, it’s a feeling akin to 2016 when I went to sleep about four hours before it was called, just as the tide was definitely turning, me saying “well surely she’ll manage it” as I dozed off lol same
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Going to own so loving hard when the tories start throwing out “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” Welcome to hellworld bitches
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Toxic Mental posted:Going to own so loving hard when the tories start throwing out “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” It actually won't own at all
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Gripweed posted:Is there a chance that maybe the exit polls were faked in order to make a potential Corbyn victory look like voter fraud? If they fake the exit poll they'll have figured out a way to stuff the ballot boxes with fakes. If you're going for a coup there would have been initial allegations of Labour vote fraud.
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Dreylad posted:the nice thing is that the years since 2016 have shown me that a clinton presidency wasn't going to differ that much from a trump presidency just like at the macron presidency to have a taste of clinton presidency it smells a like like tear gas and has the taste of tax cuts for the rich and public budget cuts
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:yeah everyone laughing at space force doesn't understand what it really is or why it exists, which is: to turn on a huge hose, plug it into the military procurement machine, and send that money straight into the pockets of the bentest grifters around my prediction is that disney gets into the arms production business and makes a lovely x-wing and markets it with a saturday morning commercial campaign
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Pomp posted:It actually won't own at all Whoa You’re !right!
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Paramemetic posted:nobody gets off this ride until we all do, it's the CSPAM sacred pact to ride this bitch out together until the oceans boil we will all die at a ripe old age with someone chanting the book of c-spam over our wretched elderly bodies while sprinkling our corpses with gin, a psalter full of weed and juul cartridges being waved around to perfume the air
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Spime Wrangler posted:whats the over/under on number of seats the lib dems gave to the tories 69
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Raccooon posted:Yeah I have two family members with medical debt in the range of $200,000+. I doubt most people in the UK even know thats possible. Chapter 7.
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trigger warning: this band has some real problematic songs perhaps delve no deeper but the main song guy is dead so you are not really giving cash to fash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0C1p5pL01I
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Dreylad posted:the nice thing is that the years since 2016 have shown me that a clinton presidency wasn't going to differ that much from a trump presidency Well, they'd be a lot less kids in camps on the border I think. And less dead Kurds.
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if the fascists want to kill me, they'll have to do it themsleves, not giivng them any satisfaction
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brexistence is dukha
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Norton the First posted:Chapter 7. Can't they lose their houses doing this?
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Thom12255 posted:Well, they'd be a lot less kids in camps on the border I think. And less dead Kurds. Nah bro she’d have started WW3 don’t you know
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Kurtofan posted:if the fascists want to kill me, they'll have to do it themsleves, not giivng them any satisfaction that's the gay mafia mentality, baby
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I guess if there's a lesson in all this, and it applies to the US as well, it's that socialists shouldn't invest so much in the electoral fortunes of one man/one party. In fact I'm starting to think we've all been doing this backwards. We've been pushing to have leftists installed in the formal halls of power so that they can implement reforms from above, when we should have been more focused on organizing on the ground to build up an opposition to those in power. I know the usual rebuttal to this is "we can do both" but I'm not so sure about that anymore. Big electoral campaigns have a sort of gravity to them, and the movement seems to inevitably begin to orbit around them. Which means if they fail it's devastating. We saw this when a bunch of people freaked out over Bernie having a heart attack, and now we're seeing it again.
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Kurtofan posted:if the fascists want to kill me, they'll have to do it themsleves, not giivng them any satisfaction https://twitter.com/s8n/status/1083026459973898240?lang=en
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crepeface posted:cameron really left a poison turd on his way out, huh? I have said it a bunch but I have no reason to not believe it: brexit is the end of the UK. Scotland didn't want it, and it puts NI in a precarious position, even moreso if scotland leaves. The UK is gon' fall apart.
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Connservative Ian Levy Votes: 17,440 | Vote share %: 42.7 | Vote share change: +5.4 Labour Susan Dungworth Votes: 16,728 | Vote share %: 40.9 | Vote share change: -15.0 The Brexit Party Mark Peart Votes: 3,394 | Vote share %: 8.3 | Vote share change: +8.3 Liberal Democrat Thom Chapman Votes: 2,151 | Vote share %: 5.3 | Vote share change: +0.7 Green Dawn Furness Votes: 1,146 | Vote share %: 2.8 | Vote share change: +0.6 can blame pretty much any of 'em
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IWW Online Branch posted:I guess if there's a lesson in all this, and it applies to the US as well, it's that socialists shouldn't invest so much in the electoral fortunes of one man/one party. In fact I'm starting to think we've all been doing this backwards. We've been pushing to have leftists installed in the formal halls of power so that they can implement reforms from above, when we should have been more focused on organizing on the ground to build up an opposition to those in power. I know the usual rebuttal to this is "we can do both" but I'm not so sure about that anymore. Big electoral campaigns have a sort of gravity to them, and the movement seems to inevitably begin to orbit around them. Which means if they fail it's devastating. We saw this when a bunch of people freaked out over Bernie having a heart attack, and now we're seeing it again. there are unprecedented levels of control implemented to prevent any sort of extraparliamentary opposition. for such to be even potentially effective, things have to get *a lot* worse.
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Well, it's my personal opinion that we've been in the hell timeline for quite long enough, but I guess it's not going anywhere anytime soon. This would be a lot funnier if the people who voted for this were also the one suffering the brunt of it. Rip the UK. Stay safe, Britgoons.
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Spime Wrangler posted:whats the over/under on number of seats the lib dems gave to the tories Liberals are losing because a chunk of them are voting for Brexit Party. No one is voting for Lib Dem
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IWW Online Branch posted:I guess if there's a lesson in all this, and it applies to the US as well, it's that socialists shouldn't invest so much in the electoral fortunes of one man/one party. In fact I'm starting to think we've all been doing this backwards. We've been pushing to have leftists installed in the formal halls of power so that they can implement reforms from above, when we should have been more focused on organizing on the ground to build up an opposition to those in power. I know the usual rebuttal to this is "we can do both" but I'm not so sure about that anymore. Big electoral campaigns have a sort of gravity to them, and the movement seems to inevitably begin to orbit around them. Which means if they fail it's devastating. We saw this when a bunch of people freaked out over Bernie having a heart attack, and now we're seeing it again. there's too many people on this planet now for one leader to govern them, we need to look at governance differently now
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it's hard being a leftist because you're supposed to build a movement against the ruling class but it turns out humans have dog brains and are easily distracted and misled
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Grondoth posted:I have said it a bunch but I have no reason to not believe it: brexit is the end of the UK. Scotland didn't want it, and it puts NI in a precarious position, even moreso if scotland leaves. The UK is gon' fall apart.  Good
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V. Illych L. posted:there are unprecedented levels of control implemented to prevent any sort of extraparliamentary opposition. for such to be even potentially effective, things have to get *a lot* worse. Well hey it looks like Britain just volunteered to be our test case.
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IWW Online Branch posted:I guess if there's a lesson in all this, and it applies to the US as well, it's that socialists shouldn't invest so much in the electoral fortunes of one man/one party. In fact I'm starting to think we've all been doing this backwards. We've been pushing to have leftists installed in the formal halls of power so that they can implement reforms from above, when we should have been more focused on organizing on the ground to build up an opposition to those in power. I know the usual rebuttal to this is "we can do both" but I'm not so sure about that anymore. Big electoral campaigns have a sort of gravity to them, and the movement seems to inevitably begin to orbit around them. Which means if they fail it's devastating. We saw this when a bunch of people freaked out over Bernie having a heart attack, and now we're seeing it again. yeah completely we are actually in a rather new position as people in the 24-35 age bracket are interested in socialism but we are having to come up with a whole new methodology for this poo poo since neoliberalism hosed up the old structure of organization, and thus we have to experiment the fundamental thing, imho, is to try new forms of labor organization and tactics to hit the fucktards where it hurts: property and capital
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Krabboss posted:it's hard being a leftist because you're supposed to build a movement against the ruling class but it turns out humans have dog brains and are easily distracted and misled excuse me? who are you to decide whats best for me?? 
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Liberals are losing because a chunk of them are voting for Brexit Party. No one is voting for Lib Dem Brexit party are now centrists
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