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xtothez posted:Cons win Blyth Valley from Labour by 712 votes christ, it's bed time
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baka kaba posted:wasn't there talk of *mutes mark francois* a new per-constituency predictor though? They haven't previously *released* that data but yes, that's how they build the result that they publish. And the first three results have gone more or less exactly according to the exit poll, so I'm going to bed.
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xtothez posted:Cons win Blyth Valley from Labour by 712 votes gently caress the lib dems lmao
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OK yeah now I'm willing to concede we're hosed. Hope there are at least a few decent scalps as a consolation prize. I still want to laugh hollowly at Swinson, Umunna and IDS losing their seats even if it doesn't really matter.
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Propaganda Hour posted:Brexit just seems to be the gift that keeps on giving, huh? Scotland needs to bail already
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hitchensgoespop posted:Somebody post that pic of the dog in the house on fire but photoshop him saying "this is definitely not Corbyn's fault" Corbyn has to go because there's been too many mistakes that haven't helped, but it's minutiae compared to the smears about antisemitism.
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Drone_Fragger posted:Re midlands: well it also helped that finally, finally after 18 years in the wilderness, labour got back in, and then spent 13 years not helping the midlands at all and telling them that nothing could be done about the hollowing-out and it was their own fault for not adjusting to the new economy.
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Blythe valley lost. Exit poll very likely accurate.Jose posted:nobody on the left of the party will escape the monstering corbyn got. they're going to be crowing about their victory and go even harder next time There is a leadership which could do better. JC is not a great politician and never has been. gently caress knows who it is but we can do better.
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Jo Swinson is a piece of poo poo and I'd be interested to see how many seats labour loses for the sole reason she split the vote with her propaganda resulting in some ridiculous "conservative win seat with 31% of the vote to labours 29 and lib dems 20% shenanigans"
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mila kunis posted:gently caress the lib dems lmao lib dem vote was totally steady there, the real impact was votes flowing directly out of labour and into bxp and tories people really do be single issue brexit voting
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El Grillo posted:Blythe valley lost. Exit poll very likely accurate. it mostly makes me depressed that support for israel is always going to be implicit now
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My condolences fellow Goons.
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Can we at least accept that Corbyn failed
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Jose posted:i voted for nick brown but i have gently caress all to do until after christmas what with being unemployed Blyth goes blue, probably time to call it a night. PM if you want a pint and we'll talk this poo poo out.
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Imagine the poor bastards who went to bed early, and are going to try to read through 20k posts of this
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Barry Shitpeas posted:this is the worst pwm reunion Yeah
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Ah, the final part of hope has died. Climate Change, Raw dog Brexit.... do it. Do it all. Come on Trump. Let's gently caress the world. Burn it all down.
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Memories https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/920634966354128896?s=20 
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Ash Crimson posted:Can we at least accept that Corbyn failed I don't really know that it encapsulates the totality of the problem.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:well it also helped that finally, finally after 18 years in the wilderness, labour got back in, and then spent 13 years not helping the midlands at all and telling them that nothing could be done about the hollowing-out and it was their own fault for not adjusting to the new economy. I mean yea, I dunno if you noticed but new labour wasn't socialist except in the sense they thought maybe letting the poors starve to death was bad for buisness. They were neoliberals through and through and that's the problem.
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Drone_Fragger posted:Jo Swinson is a piece of poo poo and I'd be interested to see how many seats labour loses for the sole reason she split the vote with her propaganda resulting in some ridiculous "conservative win seat with 31% of the vote to labours 29 and lib dems 20% shenanigans" It's looking like the lib Dems didn't even get much in terms of votes. Everyone just voted loving Tory lmao
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I'm sorry you'll all be losing healthcare If it's any consolation it's better to be dead than British apparently.
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Ash Crimson posted:Can we at least accept that Corbyn failed Corbyn cannot fail, he can only be failed.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Sure is Scotland should definitely consider saving themselves, but if they leave the UK, then the remainder will only be even more dominated by the Tories.
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Ash Crimson posted:Can we at least accept that Corbyn failed https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1205258807888240640
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OwlFancier posted:I don't really know that it encapsulates the totality of the problem. I'm very upset and emotional right now.
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El Grillo posted:some people are better politicians/leaders than others, this necessarily will make a difference to how badly they are affected by negative press. The only way to escape a monstering by the press is to be a red painted Tory
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Ash Crimson posted:Can we at least accept that Corbyn failed why the gently caress are you so happy about this? why are you gloating?
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No. I will not let this be the end. Not of me nor of the people I love. I think if there is anything we can do now, it is organise it is build ourselves things that cope and care for people, it is be as kind as we can without limit. I'm sad and have the terrible sinking feeling in my gut that comes from fear. But all we can do is fight. Probably forever.
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Ash Crimson posted:Can we at least accept that Corbyn failed My favorite was when he was asked a couple weeks ago if he's for or against Brexit, and he said he's for whatever the people want. True leadership.
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ive spent 5 years of my life working towards being a physiotherapist so i can work on the wards for the NHS and now i dont even know what sort of future itll be. my husband said i can always go private but i know i'll be working myself to death for the NHS until its gone.
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I'm diabetic and I'm kinda scared lol No really, I'm very, very scared
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Natural 20 posted:Corbyn cannot fail, he can only be failed. Forgive me Corby-san
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mila kunis posted:gently caress the lib dems lmao Lib Dems gained almost nothing. Greens gained almost nothing. Conservatives gained less than 2000. Blythe Valley was pretty much 3000 Labour voters going directly to the Brexit party.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205269917085454336 this mf was really named "morpeth"
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This isn't a requirement to tack to the centre - this is just leave voting areas being angry at labour for being "too remain" and not wanting a second referendum. Left-wing politics can still win, Brexit has just hosed us over.
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El Grillo posted:Yes. But if you accept that the monstering is the entirety of the reason corbyn is so disastrously unpopular, then you accept that there is no hope for anyone. And that is (a) not grounded in reality - some people are better politicians/leaders than others, this necessarily will make a difference to how badly they are affected by negative press, and (b) it is also despair, which is the greatest evil we face, a toxic poison which is the greatest danger to our future, greater even than the genuinely loving evil motherfuckers such as the Tories who are actively damaging to society and human beings in general. Yup. It's easy to say 'the press would have treated everyone this badly', but that doesn't actually help. There are left-wing politicians that can handle a tough interview better than Corbyn. That can make jokes in PMQs better than Corbyn. That don't have the past associations Corbyn has. Corbyn achieved the nearly impossible by realigning the Labour party and actually winning seats in 2017. He just had the appalling luck to be stuck between a rock and a hard place on Brexit. We lost today. New fight starts tomorrow.
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Lassitude posted:My favorite was when he was asked a couple weeks ago if he's for or against Brexit, and he said he's for whatever the people want. True leadership. Well he hadn't seen the exit polls yet.
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Saith posted:why the gently caress are you so happy about this? why are you gloating? What are you trying to say
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm diabetic and I'm kinda scared lol can i get a donation before you die. sorry this is grim to ask but you never know
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