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OrthoTrot posted:Brexit has realigned electoral politics away from class lines. Meanwhile the working class is at a historically weak point in terms of organisation in work places. We need to rebuild from the ground up. Any good union/organisation history book recommendations?
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Ash Crimson posted:It's just a slow inevitable decline from here on out in britain as a whole Slow?
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Peterborough - CON gain That by-election was fun, though.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:To any US goons, take a long good look at what happened here today. I don't see smearing Bernie Sanders as an anti-semite working too well but I know they're gonna try anyways.
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Republicans posted:I don't see smearing Bernie Sanders as an anti-semite working too well but I know they're gonna try anyways. They'll spin him as a Russian asset due to his 'historical links to communism' then go full red scare once the Senate shoots down impeachment on party lines.
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Enigma89 posted:I think it would be a good idea to invite more conservatives to post here. This place is an echo chamber, we are so out of tune unfortunately. I was really hoping Brexit would not happen. Lesson learned I guess. Hide the poisoned blade while goading your opponent with the nice shiny shield. If we want a better world we have to fight dirty too.
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Liquid Communism posted:They'll spin him as a Russian asset due to his 'historical links to communism' then go full red scare once the Senate shoots down impeachment on party lines. The "Russian asset" smear is already having diminishing returns against Trump. It's not gonna work against Bernie. Condolences to UK goons. Very disappointing. Remember how much your political media is responsible for this, and make sure you try them for crimes against humanity when the Revolution happens. I'm not even remotely joking.
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Enigma89 posted:I think it would be a good idea to invite more conservatives to post here. This place is an echo chamber, we are so out of tune unfortunately. I was really hoping Brexit would not happen. I don't think more Conservatives would be the answer, but people need to be more willing to look outside their bubble, and this thread is definitely a bubble.
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peanut- posted:Result from a place where they don't get The Sun. Christ, the North of England is gloomier than I thought.
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Venomous posted:counterpoint: gently caress off, Tories are fascists and we do not need fascist voices on this forum Agreed, CSPAM is full of them
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Chuka Umana posted:No matter what happens at 10, we're all in this together.
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Not So Fast posted:I don't think more Conservatives would be the answer, but people need to be more willing to look outside their bubble, and this thread is definitely a bubble. Bubbles are good, dipshit
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Majorian posted:The "Russian asset" smear is already having diminishing returns against Trump. It's not gonna work against Bernie. Like I get where it comes from, but all I want to say is "LMBO so confident in the US of all places". I may be feeling a bit bitter right now.
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Jollity Farm posted:I am suicidal. The country and the whole world are dominated by small-minded bigots who think wealth and power are more important than human life. Why should I have to stay alive for this garbage world? My brother's cat died and it was an omen, there's nothing joyful for anyone except the shittiest people. it's disappointing, but it's not over. there's a movement building, the overton window has shifted to the left, and if the tories end up winning this, brexit is still going to dog them like it did with May - there's no squaring that circle, Johnson's deal is poo poo and it's going to cause huge problems, if he even gets it passed (when people don't need to pretend they support it anymore) it's going to be a protracted series of delays and failures. The transition period alone could be several years. The tories won't get an easy ride and we need to be ready for the next election there was a huge community effort and positivity behind this campaign, and yeah it sucks how things ended up, but that hope and energy is real and it will grow. The deck is stacked, with Corbyn: Media Edition and Brexit creating stupid wildcard situations that meant there was no easy solution, no winning move, no obvious strategy to cut through. So, we need to build on this and take control, get people more engaged and politically aware take care of yourself bud, have some personal time until it's not as raw - in some ways it's almost like we just didn't have the election, obviously losing seats is bad but it probably doesn't change the electoral calculus too much, as far as the tories being able to pass stuff? And the tories have at least committed to some investment and anti-austerity positions, which are poo poo but still better than nothing, and it's something people expect them to do now
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Jollity Farm posted:I am suicidal. The country and the whole world are dominated by small-minded bigots who think wealth and power are more important than human life. Why should I have to stay alive for this garbage world? My brother's cat died and it was an omen, there's nothing joyful for anyone except the shittiest people. I've been on and off suicidal for several months now. Let me tell you that the fact that you decided to post this here rather than bottle it up tells me that even if you don't beleive it right now you have immense strength inside of you. You know that you don't really want to die. If you have freinds that you trust go talk to them. If you cant trust your mom to help you talk to her about it. Get in contact with your GP tell them how you feel, get yourself on anti-depressants. If things are really bad go down to the emergeny room and ask for an emergency mental health assesment. Not alot of people know you can do that. Your pain is real, you're not alone and help is out there. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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I think it's fair to say now that we definitely don't live in a democracy. The fact that a handful of billionaires are allowed to own practically the entirety of national and regional print media, and that broadcast news will uncritically amplify what they print, proves that your vote is worthless in the face of 40 years of white-supremacist, anti-intellectual poison poured down the ears of the general public. Only in a broken system can you persuade a populace screaming out for change and an improvement of life to vote for the maintaining of a status quo that wants to grind them into a bloody pulp. I don't know what you can call this system exactly, but it's definitely not democracy as voting won't change it. Only direct action can do so.
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Republicans posted:I don't see smearing Bernie Sanders as an anti-semite working too well but I know they're gonna try anyways. gonna? 
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WE DID IT WE TURNED PUTNEY RED THANK YOU FOR A RAY OF LIGHT IN A DAY OF poo poo THANK YOU LOVE YOU ALL
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Foul Ole Ron posted:To any US goons, take a long good look at what happened here today. you already had microtargeted ads and paid-for state media the rest is useless really because the entire tory strategy was "end brexit" and I honestly kept getting good responses but lmao we didnt convince the north enough to deal with a wrecker party sapping ~10-15 exit poll specifically saying its gonna be shitloads of tiny new marginals in the north that kill us and we have utterly lost it right there so beyond "there are a million lies to tell and a billion facebook voters" im not sure this helps you. We didn't learn how to deal with that. We learnt it was stronger today, so lets gently caress up whatever needs to be hosed up when we sober up
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UKMT favourite Jess Phillips getting an early knife in Corbyn for her leadership bid.
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205302654810935296 Uh... what? I'm watching The Guardian's results tracker and it's 22.2% to Labour, 12k-odd votes?
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Xeno posted:UKMT favourite Jess Phillips getting an early knife in Corbyn for her leadership bid. Man that interview was so sad
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Xeno posted:UKMT favourite Jess Phillips getting an early knife in Corbyn for her leadership bid. I hope she steps on a plug
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Barry Shitpeas posted:this is the worst pwm reunion
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sebzilla posted:I hope she steps on a plug A plug made out of Lego
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zhar posted:i learned to night i am really in a bubble erryone is a racist I guess and people loving love bigotry not a positive thought
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Remember that 406 constituencies voted Leave and 242 voted Remain. This is just those results finally translating into a general election.
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Angepain posted:going to have to be 20 times more gay and trans now just to spite the tories Praxis. I might just take this as an opportunity to stop being so a loving coward when going out in girl mode
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