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Well. gently caress. Snipe: 270 was the amount of seats Labour should have got.
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I rest my case your honor. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Clement posted:Well. gently caress.
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ronya posted:This is big news - it removes Pidcock from the succession race too, she was leftier than RLB or Rayner Ive stopped being shocked by people not remembering who rlb is but I still dont get why spud posted:I read the entire thing. I guess Jews must just be wrong then? The allegations are bullshit and its not universal. The public believe theres 100x the members reported than there are, members are less likely to hold antisemitic views than other parties. If your argument is here are people in the guardian honestly saying they're scared because a lifelong antiracist is suddenly going to start a pogrom and itd be better he lost than the guy proposing to loving ban travellers from existing then yes, thats a huge and terrifying problem on display. Its the same one that gave us ed milibands bacon photo bullshit. The jewish people saying "this is terrifying, what are you doing, why are white christians faith-baiting against corbyn" had their letters to the guardian deleted for being controversial though
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Going to have to change the name to just The Kingdom.
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Wolfechu posted:I suppose so. I mean, I'm in my late 40s, so I grew up with the Strike smack in the middle of my childhood. But the coal industry didn't grind to a halt in a day, it took a long, long time, and the ramifications of removing a major industry from an area that size (and steel, and textiles, and...) - and also years of not giving a gently caress if there were any jobs for anyone afterward, well into the 90s... You think that'd still be in a fair few people's minds. Either this is the Brexit Uber Alles election, an aberration where to a lot of people literally nothing else matters beyond their Brexy, or... gently caress, I don't even want to think about what the alternative is tonight.
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lol, the guy with a racist rapsheet is definitely extremely concerned about antisemitism, yes sirree.
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spud posted:I rest my case your honor. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3726754&perpage=40#post446785481 You post things like this so actually you can shut the gently caress up forever about racism and I’m going to ban you now.
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All three Aberdeenshire constituencies pending results. There's adjudication called on Banff and Buchan and on Gordon, but we just got told that WANK is slightly outside the margin for a recount so I expect it to be a narrow SNP win. Gordon looks like a recount may be required.
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I'm glad Canterbury is a labour hold and I am glad also that Spud got banned but I am still going to spend my Friday in a bottle
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Bryter posted:labOur can'T Win HerE! CON: 38.3% (-3.9) LAB: 38.0% (-4.2) LDEM: 21.3% (+9.1) GRN: 1.2% (-0.8) BREX: 0.9% (+0.9) Swing: Lab to Con (+0.2) Turnout: 67.7% Edit: also how the gently caress is the BXP candidate real
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Dec 13, 2019 05:40
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Apraxin posted:Yeah, same. Pidcock's constituency includes Consett, and I remember at least one person here saying, not unreasonably, that it would never turn Tory in a million years because of the communal memory of how Thatcher almost literally destroyed the town when the steelworks closed. And yet here we are. I wonder how much the communal memory truly exists anymore. People hitting 40 barely remember the Thatcher government, "Tories closed the pits" seems as irrelevant as "back to the 1970s" now.
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Also I found out that my 19yo cousin didn't register and I am going to shout at him when I see him next week. What the gently caress.
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Lmao your Lib Dem party are like the biggest ratfuckers ever aren't they? There are so many seats that seem like they are picked up or held if Lib Dems are not there
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The Tory counting agent at my table knew the team supervisor, and before the count they were talking about Labour leaders and the unelectability of Corbyn. This Tory woman then said that John Smith was the greatest leader Labour had ever had and he would have wiped the floor with Blair. I was greatly surprised to hear a Conservative singing the praises of a strong lefty Labour leader.
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Pretty good posted:Also I found out that my 19yo cousin didn't register and I am going to shout at him when I see him next week. What the gently caress. Don't do that. He wouldn't have swung it. Work on him for next time.
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ashfield went conservative by 8k + votes gently caress
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Vindicator posted:Work on him for next time. lol
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:Look how blue North Wales is now Ahhhhh we can’t get doctors appointments and our bins get taken once a month. But we want it to get worse. I’m no nationalist but I do kinda have sympathy. This is what the wipeout of cultural identity looks like. I can see a reverse in the very limited devolution in a few years. It really doesn’t help that the best and brightest leave because... yeah.
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TulliusCicero posted:Lmao your Lib Dem party are like the biggest ratfuckers ever aren't they? There are so many seats that seem like they are picked up or held if Lib Dems are not there Davey Cameron made an empty promise for a referendum he never thought he'd have to hold, and accidentally destroyed the country, whoops a daisy.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Ahhhhh we can’t get doctors appointments and our bins get taken once a month. But we want it to get worse. I’m no nationalist but I do kinda have sympathy. This is what the wipeout of cultural identity looks like. I can see a reverse in the very limited devolution in a few years. It really doesn’t help that the best and brightest leave because... yeah. I wouldn't say that, just wait for the demographs of welsh voters. Wales youths are concerned of the possibility of independence as scott youths are. They may abandon the sinking ship. Just wait for that, SNP winning 20 seats is a deathblow to english political parties on scotland.  
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I read in another thread that Corbyn is at like -40 for unpopularity. If thats right, how the gently caress did that happen, is that just the result of years of news media making GBS threads on him? If thats literally all there was to it, how're you going to deal with the same thing happening to the next Labour leader? Just not giving the news enough time to thoroughly poo poo on them?
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Jedit posted:The Tory counting agent at my table knew the team supervisor, and before the count they were talking about Labour leaders and the unelectability of Corbyn. This Tory woman then said that John Smith was the greatest leader Labour had ever had and he would have wiped the floor with Blair. I was greatly surprised to hear a Conservative singing the praises of a strong lefty Labour leader. John Smith counts as leftie now? He was a stalwart of the old Labour right, back when the left ruled the roost and those who would become the new Labour right were biding their time by writing in Marxism Today rather than taking the left head-on. Finding an older person on the right who liked the old hard hats over the slippery lawyers and journos might be par for the course ronya fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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blurgh. I'm sick of this poo poo. Goodnight.
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:I read in another thread that Corbyn is at like -40 for unpopularity. If thats right, how the gently caress did that happen, is that just the result of years of news media making GBS threads on him? He wasn't the most combative individual so that didn't help but at this stage it doesn't matter who you bring.Miliband and brown got bodied too.
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My condolences, UKGoons.
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I guess we get a single moment of  for the night:https://twitter.com/ScotIndyDebate/status/1205336154087862276
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:I read in another thread that Corbyn is at like -40 for unpopularity. If thats right, how the gently caress did that happen, is that just the result of years of news media making GBS threads on him? That's the difficulty, isn't it. Anyone who gave Corbyn 5 minutes realised how nice, down to earth, and right-on he was. Anyone we put forward is going to get monstered, unless we put a red Tory melt up there. We can't rely on the media to be on our side
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:I read in another thread that Corbyn is at like -40 for unpopularity. If thats right, how the gently caress did that happen, is that just the result of years of news media making GBS threads on him? apparently hiding in fridges works
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While the media completely shut down mass messaging we need a new way of cutting through, or a way to force the message through. Novara and Double Down are a start, general strike, protest etc. Go low/go high and decorum doesn't work when your opponent's platform reaches the entire nation and lets them lie. That is fascism. That Stanley Johnson clip from C4 was loving scary.
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Jedit posted:Tories hold WANK.
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This is a bloodbath. I’ve not been able to sleep since the results came in. I’ve been feeling since January that any momentum that was gained by 2017 had completely faltered, and that we’d become too confident about Corbyn being basically PM in waiting. I think the reorientation of Labour as it dissects this loss is going to be vicious, and it will be caught between either dumping its current approach and political figures, or outright irrelevancy. The country has followed the US it seems in a form of ‘liberal cities v “we’re left behind” localities’ with the same messaging effect. It’s true culture war stuff, and with people like Milne and Lavery banging the old 1970s drums, they didn’t win back the pro-Brexit localities because ‘why vote for labour fudge when you can have the real thing’ conservatives were more attractive, and they lost enough of the liberal city-types to the Lib Dems, even though that wouldn’t have been enough to save them anyway. The abstaining on the Immigration Bill idiocy was a watershed I think, for a lot of people. Put that together with our lovely loving media... And to be honest, I don’t want to know what sort of godawful racist, xenophobic ‘controls on immigration mug’ policies labour will consider as a means to try to win back the localities.
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:That's the difficulty, isn't it. Anyone who gave Corbyn 5 minutes realised how nice, down to earth, and right-on he was. Anyone we put forward is going to get monstered, unless we put a red Tory melt up there. We can't rely on the media to be on our side Actually pick them a week before the general election so the media has as little time to go to town as possible might be your only hope.
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If motherfucking jam grandad, the best most honest politician I’ve seen in a long time, was butchered like this, I honestly have no hope for this electorate
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Vindicator posted:Don't do that. He wouldn't have swung it. Work on him for next time.
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I want to loving crawl in a hole and die but hey, at least you fuckheads can't blame Scotland this time like you did in 2017. This trainwreck is all on England, as it always bloody is. God I wish we'd gone independent when we had the chance.
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